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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:10 PM
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We're going to places like MS and Alaska, talk to them, tell them who we are.
Edited on Thu May-15-08 05:45 PM by madfloridian
That is what Howard Dean said not only during his campaign, but when he became chairman.

Knock on their doors, let them know they don't need to be afraid to be Democrats...paraphrased but closely.

From TPM today:

Poll: Two Major Republican Incumbents In Serious Danger -- In Alaska!

Dean was criticized for putting paid staff in Alaska. Also for his staff in MS and Utah and other states.

Now this is really something. New polling shows that not one but two scandal-plagued incumbent Republicans are seriously in danger of losing their seats -- and to top it off, both are in a state that has historically been a GOP stronghold, Alaska.

The two GOPers in question are TPMmuckraker all-stars: Sen. Ted Stevens, who is at the center of a corruption investigation; and Rep. Don Young, whose potential involvement in the Coconut Road earmark has landed him in the hotseat. Both are trailing their Dem challengers.

From the new polls commissioned by Daily Kos, and conducted by the non-partisan firm Research 2000:

Senate
Begich (D) 48%
Stevens (R) 43%
House
Berkowitz (D) 50%
Young (R) 40%


Sample size: 600 likely voters.
Margin of error: ±4%.


In The Return of the Angry Man Howard Dean talked of this also.

One of his stops was at Vanderbilt University, where he faced a standing-room-only class. For the next 45 minutes, Dean lectured, bantered and spoke like a candidate. ("I do not believe that you can run enormous deficits year after year after year and not have consequences. I do not believe you can run a foreign policy based on petulance.") But Dean was almost as critical of Democrats. The class evolved into his first lengthy public explication of his view of the party, and his "idears" for fixing it, as he pronounces the word. "It is socially unacceptable in some parts of the country to be a Democrat," he observed. "The first thing we have to do is show up in 50 states and compete in 50 states. Second thing we're going to do is talk in a way that is not condescending."

"The number one thing you can do is run for office."

"I'm absolutely serious. I am not kidding."

The class grew quiet. Here was Dean as a Johnny Appleseed, sowing civics in the young. While Democrats have conceded parts of the country considered hostile, Republicans have left no office untested, he pointed out. The result is that Dems have no farm system, no ability to find young political talent in red states and groom it.

Run, he urged the students. Run for county road commissioner. Run for city council. "If you don't have people running for offices like county commissioner, who do you think is going to run for Congress a generation from now


Mississippi got a Democrat elected, thanks to all those folks denigrated by Paul Begala when he called them "nose pickers" and criticized Dean for hiring them.

Bush and his cronies have done a lot of this single-handedly by being fools and idiots and just plain incompetent.

But there was staff in place for our party to do something when opportunity arose.

Alaska, of all places.

Matt Bai did an interview with Dean, even traveled to Alaska with him. It was called Inside Agitator

I remembered this part about their trip to Alaska today.

That night, after meeting with Dean at the sad little storefront office that houses the state party, Alaska’s party chairman, Jake Metcalfe, announced to 400 assembled Democrats at a fund-raiser that Dean had just promised to hire an additional organizer for the state. The ballroom erupted in grateful applause as Dean sat there beaming. The members of his staff, gently rolling their eyes, began calling back to Washington, warning the political staff that they would need to find the money for yet another salary in, of all places, Alaska.

In just a few hours, Dean had nicely demonstrated why so many leading Democrats in Washington wish he would spend even more time in Alaska — preferably hiking the tundra for a few months, without a cellphone.
It’s not that Democrats in Congress don’t like the idea of building better organizations in the party’s forgotten rural outposts. Everyone in Democratic politics agrees, in principle, that party organizations in states like Alaska could use help from Washington to become competitive again, as opposed to the rusted-out machines they have become. But doing so, at this particular moment and in this particular way, would seem to suck away critical resources at a time when every close House and Senate race has the potential to decide who will control the nation’s post-election agenda, and when the party should, theoretically, be focused on mobilizing its base voters — the kind of people who live in big cities and listen religiously to Air America.

Now, at power lunches and private meetings, perplexed Washington Democrats, the kind of people who have lorded over the party apparatus for decades, find themselves pondering the same bewildering questions. What on earth can Howard Dean be thinking? Does he really care about winning in November, or is he after something else?

The mere fact that Democrats would consider a “50-state strategy” to be novel — as if a national party might reasonably aspire to something less — says volumes about the rapid deterioration of the party that was, for most of the last century, America’s dominant political force. Back when Democrats were the established majority, the state parties were run by bosses who doled out jobs and delivered votes, while the national party, functioning as a subsidiary of whoever happened to occupy the Oval Office, worried about electing presidents. For decades, the party claimed a sizable majority of the nation’s governors, senators and congressmen, and in every one of the states where it controlled those seats, there was a centralized organization — a party “infrastructure,” in the parlance of today’s activists — whose job it was to recruit candidates and make sure voters got to the polls.


Alaska, amazing. And possible.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:12 PM
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1. salute to Dr. Dean for making lasting change!
:patriot:
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:48 PM
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6. Amen! nt
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:43 PM
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13. we are going blue here and Howard Dean is why. bless him.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:12 PM
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2. k/r nt
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:25 PM
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3. My only fear is that this will all collapse after Dean's term is up n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:38 PM
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4. I have the same fear.
It has over all brought enthusiasm to the party despite the heated primary. I would hate to see it go.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:39 PM
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5. Another great post, mad.. thank you ! K&R
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shockra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 05:55 PM
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7. Dean was the first politician I ever donated to.
At the beginning of the 2004 primaries I made separate fliers for all 50 states and sent PDFs to hundreds of people on the Dean blog, yahoo groups, state and city groups. I went fuckin' nuts!

I can't imagine having that much enthusiasm for a candidate ever again. But Bush needed bootin' and Dean was the kind of bull in a china shop that I thought could wreck the Right's carefully laid plans.

I'll say one thing for Ethan Berkowitz. For years he would come knocking on doors on my street, campaigning, and told us he loved this street (actually a little dirt road) and was going to move here one day. Well, that sounds like a typical politician's flattery. Then, a few years ago he bought a lot here, built a house on it and moved in. I'll tell you, that counts for something. A politician who says he's going to do something and actually does it, LOL.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:00 PM
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8. You are right about something...
Dean has been a major player in wrecking those well-laid plans of Bush...it just took him longer than he thought.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:48 PM
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21. I Donate to DFM, Rather Than Candidates
Especially now.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:23 PM
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26. He was second for me. First was Paul Wellstone.
I donated to him right after he voted against the IWR, a week or so before his death.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:03 PM
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9. Excellent post. This can't be overemphasized.
And the DLC can suck one. :7
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:12 PM
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10. Hey, Paul Begala! Looks like the "nose picking" is paying off.
Edited on Thu May-15-08 06:17 PM by Oregonian
"What he has spent it on, apparently, is just hiring a
bunch of staff people to wander around Utah and Mississippi and pick
their nose." -- Dem strategist Paul Begala on DNC Chair Howard
Dean's spending, CNN, 5/11/06
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:28 PM
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11. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, madfloridian.:thumbsup:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:34 PM
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12. We can't forget all he has accomplished...
because it could easily go back as it was before. Look at the fight it has been.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:49 PM
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14. I agree and it's such a solid common sense strategy,
it boggles the mind that some would dispute it.

I believe the critics either like going in to fights with one hand tied behind their back or they don't seriously want the Democratic Party to win by landslides.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:50 PM
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30. Yes, just common sense to include all the states. It really is.
Sensible, pragmatic...
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:51 PM
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15. brilliant and far sighted
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:53 AM
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36. Yes, it is.
I fear that it will not last if he goes as chairman.
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lsusteel Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 06:52 PM
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16. Love it
Love Dean
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:09 PM
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17. The 50 state strategy is a clear repudiation of the DLC.
They're finished in electoral politics, let them skulk in the shadows of K Street where they belong.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:14 PM
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18. Folks don't understand
the people of Mississippi want to be asked.

Most people I know involved in politics here know that nothing beats the door to door campaigning, knock on the door give a bio card and ask for the person's vote. I've heard more folks say, "I'm voting for so and so because he/she asked for my vote" than almost anything else around election time.

It helps to ask, you know what I mean.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:40 PM
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19. I think you may be right.
I just noticed your sig line about not aging...love it.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:55 PM
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32. I need to get a bumper sticker with that statement
I think I could sell it around her ;)

And I know you know what I mean about the campaigning and the weathering. :pals:

thanks for all you do and I mean that :hug:

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 10:08 AM
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37. Heck, I would buy one for sure.
:hi:
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:42 PM
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20. That is why, despite his primary loss in WVA, Obama has 12 field offices,
T-W-E-L-V-E in that small state. They're not there for the hell of it. Obama is looking past the primary to fully utilize those field offices and their volunteers for the General Election. Seems most of them will be doing door-to-door campaigning.

:kick::kick:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:57 PM
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34. That's good to hear
I'm impressed with how he is running his campaign, he isn't taking anything for granted and that is a very good thing.

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:55 PM
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22. Someday, Josh Marshall Is Going to Apologize to His Blog's Readers
For TPM's repeated dismissals of Dean.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:16 PM
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23. I doubt it.
.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:18 PM
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24. RECOMMENDED. Dean has been the best thing to happen to this party in a long time.
I fully admit that I didn't get "it." I didn't get what Dean was trying to accomplish until much later. However, besides the 'Deaniacs,' the democratic governors across this country also got "it." Dean would help not only the party, but also Dem governors running in conservative regions that previously lacked the offices and infrastructure to be competitive and win.

DLC'ers like Harold Ford and Rahm Emmanuel hate this. They hate it, not because they think the 50-state strategy doesn't work. 2006 proved it does. They hate it because it involves people from all walks of life, all incomes, all races, coming together and picking candidates that best represent them - not necessarily the one with the most money or most name recognition. They hate it because their Dem primaries are not going to be uncontested anymore. Some of those intelligent and dedicated young men and women that Dean has inspired are going to look at these DLC'ers and say "hey, I can do a better job!"

We can WIN in Alaska. And Alabama. And Mississippi. And all of those other places that we have written off for far too long. We just have to make our case to those people.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:21 PM
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25. Howard Dean is quietly transforming this party.
Go, Howard! You're the main reason I came back.

:woohoo:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:37 PM
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27. And staying in the background and not asking for recognition
I admire that. I would be saying look at me...here..look at me.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:42 PM
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28. I admire that, too. A great deal.
:)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:48 PM
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29. Kick
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:52 PM
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31. And look at who was "criticizing" our Dean...
Dinos! Dean was and is the future as is Obama.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 10:53 AM
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38. Amen, zidzi.
:hi:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:58 PM
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35. There's no stopping the Dems with Dean and Obama at the helm!!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:38 AM
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39. While the news in Alaska is very good
Edited on Fri May-16-08 11:42 AM by Blue_In_AK
Markos Moulitsos is being very disingenuous here when he only includes Ethan Berkowitz in the match-up against Don Young. As I've said repeatedly here, by far the better and more progressive Democratic candidate in Alaska (in my opinion) is Diane Benson, who Kos, for reasons unknown to us, has chosen to marginalize. As far as I know, he has not even acknowledged that Ethan is in a hotly contested race for the Democratic nomination here.

For more background on this, please read this blog from Progressive Alaska.

http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2008/05/koss-alaska-race-polls.html

Markos Moulitsas published two new polls on the Alaska Federal elections this morning at his blog, DailyKos. They appear to show impressive leads by Mark Begich over Ted Stevens, and Ethan Berkowitz over Don Young, by likely Alaska voters, when asked the question "If the 2008 election were held today?"

Stevens (R) 43 (41)
Begich (D) 48 (47)

Young (R) 40 (42)
Berkowitz (D) 50 (49)

<snip>

Diane Benson's late 2007 Craciun Group Poll showed the following:

Diane Benson 45.3%
Don Young 36.7%

<snip>

The problem I have with the way Moultisas has been spinning this hypothetical scenario out is that it is just that - hypothetical. Way too hypothetical. Most of the voters here on August 26 will be independents. They have to choose which of two tickets is more important for them to punch. Moulitsas' pollster - and most others - haven't put that into their equations so far.

And, he's not being honest with his minions at DailyKos. In all of his posts on the AK-AL US House race, he's neglected to mention that Berkowitz is engaged in a tightening primary contest with the woman who had the balls to challenge Don Young in 2006, when both Jake Metcalfe and Ethan Berkowitz treated her more like a squaw than the dynamic and resilient new political talent she is proving to be.

Not only hasn't Kos mentioned Benson in any of his posts on this race, he's done something I find highly unethical, even for a foulmouthed lefty blogger, like he and me. He has not only contributed directly to Ethan's campaign (he gave $1,000 in the first 2008 quarter), he's hosted and participated in San Francisco Bay- area Berkowitz fundraisers. But, more importantly, as one watches how his posts on this hypothetical Berkowitz-Young matchup get played out in the blogosphere, others contribute to Berkowitz from outside Alaska, believing he's in a race with Young, who people outside tend to think is worthless.

<snip>

On the one hand, there's Berkowitz, blithely (according to Ethan) accepting the largest donations ever given by the most powerful DINO in congress, Rahm Emanuel, to a non-incumbent Democrat, running against another Democrat in a primary. On the other, you have Diane Benson, gaining endorsements from around the state and nation from women's groups, and from very progressive organizations.

At any rate, these polls, like all the others showing our Democrats kicking ass up here, are another reason to be optimistic. And to work hard to get people to vote for Democrats.



DIANE BENSON FOR CONGRESS!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 11:52 AM
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40. Thanks for the info..
I will go and read more at the blog.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:14 PM
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43. Here are links to the websites
of Ethan Berkowitz and Diane Benson for comparison purposes. I'm not in any way saying that Ethan is a "bad" candidate. I just feel that Diane is much more in touch with issues of importance to all of us, as she has lived them. As a Native woman, she understands minority and gender issues; as the mother of a seriously wounded Iraq war vet, she has a personal stake in veterans' matters. She has worked as a fisherman and a teamster on the pipeline. She understands labor matters. And she is so inspirational.

But anyway, here are the links, for comparison purposes. I sort of feel like since Kos is shutting her down over at his site, I have a responsibility to build her up here.

http://www.ethanberkowitz.com/index.php

http://www.bensonforcongress.com/

I guess every Congressional district wishes it had two good Democrats to choose from in their primary, huh? :)
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:06 PM
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41. What is polling now for Diane, with it a 3-way.
Here in Brooklyn, NY, as well in other places, once the establishment sees an opportunity, or another challenger (they can't control)do extremely well, they move in with their own.

Diane is wonderful on the issues, and just an authentic, wonderful presence to support.

You can email if you'd rather. My friend Paul just went up to help Diane (he helped bring her to the attention of many here in NYC), but I've yet to hear the scoop.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:21 PM
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46. Thanks, MarjorieG
Edited on Fri May-16-08 12:33 PM by Blue_In_AK
Your support means a lot, and you are correct about the authentic, wonderful presence. In my 61 years I've never been so enthusiastic about a candidate for anything. It's been a privilege to volunteer for her in 2006 and again this year, and I feel honored to know her personally. As Phil Munger wrote in another recent blog entry, she's "one tough Indian woman." http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2008/05/one-tough-indian-woman-builds-momentum.html


Oh, and as to the polls, I don't think any recent ones have been done since Jake Metcalfe was forced to get out of the race for campaign improprieties. I would guess that Diane and Ethan are running pretty close to neck and neck. Ethan has more money, but Diane has more individual contributors. Simply put, she resonates with people, and as long as she has the funds to get out and meet people in the far-flung reaches of our state, she continues to pick up supporters. I feel that she will no doubt pick up a lot of the Independents and will do much better in the Native villages this year than she did in 2006, when our Republican delegation spent a lot of money going out there and telling the people that they wouldn't receive any more federal aid if they voted for Diane over Don Young.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:10 PM
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42. Alaska?
:rofl:

You do know the about the serious corruption probes of Ted Stevens & Don Young, right?

Knut the polar bear could win against Ted Stevens this year. (If Knut were 30 years old, of course.)
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:16 PM
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44. Alaskan Democrats are going to kick ass this year.
Obama may even take the state, as McCain is extremely unpopular.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 12:17 PM
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45. GO AK!
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 01:13 PM
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47. An anecdote from the field....
This Saturday the Democrats in my area (Brookfield) are getting together for a Dems Breakfast. I invited our local DNC Field Coordinator to come. She one of the dozens of Coordinators (we have two in Wisconsin) hired by Howard Dean to build the party in all 50 States. But she couldn't attend.

You know why?

Because she's going to be busy canvassing that day. Canvassing! In the middle of May! Not waiting until the month before the election!

She's not preaching to the choir -- she's out there talking to the unconverted.

I love Howard Dean.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:42 PM
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48. That's amazing.
Someone posted that Dean was canvassing personally in NY yesterday.
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