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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:15 PM
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Why Hillary Clinton MUST Go All the Way to June 3
There's a certain fact about races. People sign up for marathon races in cites the world over, and never finish them. The same is true for presidential races.

There's a long list of men who signed up for the race to the Democratic nomination this year, none of whom actually finished the race...

Chris Dodd
Joe Biden
Bill Richardson
Dennis Kucinich
John Edwards
(I won't count Mike Gravel because he's not even a Democrat any longer)

There's only one woman who signed up for the race to the Democratic nomination.

Hillary Clinton

There's only one woman in the history of the United States who realistically stood a chance of becoming president of the United States.

Hillary Clinton

It took courage and fortitude to stay in it as long as she has. She's had to dip into her own pockets to insure she finishes the race. She may not win it, but she WILL finish it.

That says a lot. It's not about Hillary Clinton any longer. It's about the first woman actually finishing a race to the presidency.

And it's about that future woman candidate who will be able to stand upon the shoulders of a true giant and not only finish the race, but also win it.

It's about cracking the final glass ceiling so that one day, another woman will be able to break it.

For that, Hillary Clinton deserves the admiration of all Americans.

I predict that Barack Obama will declare victory on MAy 20th, but he will be specific in his declaration.

It will be about victory in the race for pledged delegates, nothing more. He will speak of work still before him because he has gone up against the single most formidable opponent anybody could ever face. He will graciously thank her because she did more than any other person for his campaign.

She prepared him to break his own glass ceiling.

When Barack Obama takes the oath of office on January 20, 2009, there is one person he will owe most of it to...

Hillary Clinton.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:20 PM
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1. Ok. Nothing the Democratic party can't handle. Disagree about Obama "owing" the office to Clinton.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:30 PM
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3. Obama does not owe his win to Hillary Clinton - he is the one who
worked hard, built his organization, and ran an admirable race. She would earn alot more respect in my book if she dropped out and focused on winning the election in the fall, sort of like a relay race. All of those men you mentioned did drop out for the good of the team. But there is no team in Hillary - it is all about "i". She has attempted to turn herself into a martyr for women now that she is losing, but I don't view her as a hero at all. To me she is just another lying politician trying to serve her own interests. If anyone owes Hillary anything, it will be John McCain if he gets the democratic votes that should be going to Obama.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:31 PM
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4. She inoculated him against anything the Republicans could use
against him.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:58 PM
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21. I actually don't think that's true. The Republicans will be much worse.
I asked a Clinton supporter on another website if she could think of any other primary in which the parties on one side or the other were particularly nasty to each other. Mostly she turned up Republicans, but she did turn up a dem race in I believe 1968. It's just not so common for dems to turn on each other in the primary.

At a time when the incumbent president has the lowest approval rating in history we should be putting forth our best game to regain the White House, not in-fighting.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:04 PM
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13. Umm...thinking you're tryin' to talk to the OP, not me.
But for the record......I've never seen any politician be entirely truthful, including Obama. They all work for their candidacy and they all use some smarmy tactics.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:55 PM
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20. Sorry Michigan Voter - you're right that I mis-posted. It should have
been directed towards the OP. I don't think we've caught Obama in many lies yet, but I agree that most have to be self-interested and that it's the nature of the beast. That said, we've seen a particularly divisive Hillary and conciliatory Obama. To be fair it could be because she's the front-runner and he sort of came out of nowhere to challenge her. Also, the math has been in his favor for quite awhile so there was no reason for him to go negative. I'm not sure he would anyway, but it is true that you have to look at all factors.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:09 PM
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23. Well, its all going to be about the GE anyway. And for my money...
I don't care what the GE winner's name is, the color of the skin, the church or anything else but two issues---Iraq and energy prices. Both are killing us.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:22 PM
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2. He finished her race, she is just not willing to accept it. n/t
Edited on Sun May-18-08 05:22 PM by Life Long Dem
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shifting_sands Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:32 PM
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5. Did she tell you that or
did you just decide that's why she is doing this? Obama doesn't owe anything to Hillary Clinton certainly not this win. She has hardly given him a helping hand. I agree, for her own reasons, Hillary has stayed in this race, I'm not sure I find it an admirable thing to do, you think if he wins it's because of her, and I think if the Dems lose it's because of her. Maybe she figures this is her last chance to go down in history books, I don't know, but I don't think she is doing it as a favor to the American people or Obama
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:33 PM
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6. JUMP!!!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:34 PM
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7. I disagree. I think Hillary's campaign set the prospect of a female president back.
She needs to leave this race immediately, first of all because she lost and that's a non-gender kind of thing, but because her campaign of manipulation of perception of what a win looks like is undermining the election, purposely I have no doubt. She is behaving like the Florida recount mob circa 2000, and it's making more and more Democrats uneasy.

The way Hillary has run her campaign and particularly now her refusal to concede damages the women's movement on a number of levels, and I'm sorry if some people here don't see that.

Barack has beaten the Clinton Machine. Holy shit, that's spectacularly huge. Nobody can say Hillary didn't try her damnedest to kick him in the nuts. And she failed. And now Barack needs to cash in on the juggernaut that is his campaign and move on to the general election. That's why we're here. Remember?

It's go-time.

Barack has won and he'll take it from here, thank you very much. Hillary knows what to do and it is on her to do it.

For the record, I'm beginning to care less and less about anybody that still supports a coup in this nomination process. I don't think Democrats should be made to feel it is our duty to herd cats. I also believe most people know what to do and it is also on them to do it. Period.

:rant:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:14 PM
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19. Took the words right out of my mouth!
See, this is why I like you so much - logic and reasoning! :D
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:36 PM
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8. Well actually she needs to collect as much money as she can.
That's really why she isn't leaving. She has bills to pay.
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:43 PM
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10. That argument only works if she curbs her spending n/t
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:40 PM
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9. He doesn't owe her anything
he owes us, those who elect him, and that's how it should be.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:52 PM
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11. She lost long ago but is staying in because the MSM is pretending it's still neck and neck.
Edited on Sun May-18-08 05:53 PM by jenmito
If her last name wasn't Clinton she'd be just another woman candidate who would've dropped out a long time ago.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:53 PM
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12. Glad to see a Obama supporter recognizes this fact....just like people would
feel if Obama lost. Neither of our candidates is a loser. Both have enhanced the other! We Dems in 2008 are record breaking! We are making history! No, we have already made history...no matter the outcome!
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:29 PM
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14. She is hurting the cause of future women candidates
Edited on Sun May-18-08 06:29 PM by dansolo
Hillary has relied on preferential treatment, Republican-like tactics, claims of victimhood, and supporters who are stoking the racist divisions in this country for her benefit. There will be a backlash, and the damage to any future women candidates may be felt for a long time. And what makes it worse is that the utter incompetence of her campaign may reflect poorly on the ability of future women candidates.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:29 PM
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15. Politics is a team sport.
We will win this fall -- ALL of us.

Hillary will fight with enthusiasm for Obama. That's the way she is. We're lucky to have her as a leader in our party. Then again, we're blessed with an embarrassment of riches. I never though I'd live to see the day when we had so many capable Democratic leaders to choose from. The Republicans really only have three -- McCain, Huckabee, and Romney -- and they are all deeply and badly flawed leaders. The Republicans need to rebuild their party or face extinction like the Whigs. Destroying their presence as a political power this fall will be doing them a favor.

With some people here, their cups runneth over. The only thing that bugs me is the confectionery hatred some people have, but that will be over soon enough. Our era begins next January 20th. We will rebuild the party, the government, and the soul of America. The only way we will be stopped is suicide, and I don't think that's likely.

There will be other opportunities for Hillary. The coming Democratic Revolution will make that possible. All capable leaders will be required, and our tent has always been big enough to accommodate everyone. And who knows, she may win this thing yet, though I'm not counting on it. But no matter who wins, WE win.

--p!
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:42 PM
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16. Continuing until June proves one thing...
Edited on Sun May-18-08 06:43 PM by Aya Reiko
HRH HRC, like Bush, has no exit strategy.

In the face of certain defeat, do we really want someone who'll continue on regardless of the cost? You know, like Bush and Iraq.

HRH HRC is not ready for day one, or any day for that matter.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:30 PM
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17. Barack will get to the oath on his own merits...
Edited on Sun May-18-08 07:33 PM by RiverStone
And I have no problem with Hillary going the distance, as long as she no longer disses our eventual nominee.

It's about beating McCain now.

Hillary deserves credit for her effort; Obama deserves the presidency.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:47 PM
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18. Yeah, hilary and her surrogates are still spreading LIES..
Obama owes his victory to himself, his management team and to us..his supporters.

hilary's a drag on this Nation and gets no credit for her lies, racist remarks, and pandering.

















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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:01 PM
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22. If true, she'd just say so
She's in it to convince the superdelegates to go against the vote of the people and crown her. The only reason she hasn't been pushed out is because she's done such a fantastic job of lying to her backers that they honestly don't understand she's lost.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:23 PM
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24. I'm Guessing She Has Around 30 Million Reasons To Keep Going...
At least 11 million of those REALLY concern her.
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