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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:13 PM
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Daily Kos: Obama should pick Al Gore as VP
The Obama team has surely already tasked some staffers with quietly assembling a list and basic research on probably a couple hundred possible choices for Vice President. At some point after Clinton has acknowledged that she won't be the nominee and he shifts entirely in to general election mode, Obama will name a chair of his VP search committee. I'm confident that person will do a good job. But here's a suggestion I hope the Obama campaign is already considering:

Save the time on the VP search committee. Barack Obama should ask Al Gore to be his running mate.


Read more here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/18/174758/308/728/517952
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:13 PM
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1. In before Gore supporter shitstorm
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:43 PM
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29. What's a "Gore supporter shitstorm"? I've been a "Gore Supporter" for a long time
I'm also an Obama Supporter. I will freely admit that, like many here on DU, Al Gore was always my first choice for this year.

If Obama were to put him on the ticket- and, more importantly, could convince him to do it- I think it would be brilliant.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 12:50 AM
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34. I'm talking about all those "Gore for President" and "Draft Gore" holdouts
That get super-angry whenever you mention Gore being anything but President.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 12:56 AM
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36. Yeah I wrote a post a few months back saying that Gore
should be Obama's veep.... I was ripped a new one.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 12:57 AM
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37. Happens to all of us.
Gore would probably overshadow Obama anyways.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:06 AM
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38. Sorry for posting Mr. Gore's OWN WORDS saying he would take nothing but the POTUS..
My bad.

If you would like the link again; I will be glad to provide it.

As a Gore supporter, I would be fine with him on any position on the ticket.But the man himself has said he will not take anything but President. Why is that such a problem to understand?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:10 AM
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40. I know he doesn't want anything but the POTUS and that's cool.
I was talking about the flame wars that start whenever someone posts comments saying "Gore should be given a cabinet position in an Obama administration" or similar.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:37 AM
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44. Eh. The man made it pretty clear he didn't want to do it.
I strongly suspect he's backing Obama.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:14 PM
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2. But does Gore WANT to be VP - again?
I'm guessing not so much.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:15 PM
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4. Exactly. Not going to happen,
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:14 PM
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3. It would be kick ass if he did and Gore accepted
but I am not holding my breath.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:22 PM
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10. That's where I'm at, too.
It would be a perfect ticket, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:21 AM
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55. Why would Gore want to be a VP to someone so junior to him in stature and experience?
Ridiculous...if you think carefully about it. Gore has moved out of politics now. He's his own person with his own influence that goes beyond being a second banana. Obama should pick someone who complements the ticket and he will.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 12:38 PM
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62. That was my first thought as well
That's not a knock against Obama, it just speaks to the incredible qualifications Gore holds.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:37 PM
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63. An appeal to Gore to serve might just work. It worked on Eisenhower
I think we all believe here that a democratic win this fall is not only essential for this country's survival as a democracy, but perhaps the health of the entire globe. I would guess Gore believes this also. Who better to ensure a dem win than Gore on the ticket? He may not want to run but might be persuaded, as was Eisenhower who definitely did not want to run for president and was talked into it twice (and a good thing, too!).

As I said, I'm not holding my breath on this one. The reasons are legion why he would not, but I think the man who wrote "The Assault on Reason" feels passionately enough about our dire straits that he might be persuaded.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:15 PM
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5. Al Gore has put some distance between himself and that job but at the
same time that isn't to say that he isn't wildly and deeply qualified to fill it.

And if that worthless nincompoop Mike Huckabee is McCain's veep nom, just ask me if I'm tuning in to the vice presidential debate.


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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:17 PM
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6. I can't see it.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:18 PM
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7. I don't think that would happen in a million years.
But I would LOVE to know who is on the list of VP possibilities of a couple hundred people! That's a huge list.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:19 PM
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8. It would be a fantastic ticket, for more reasons than the author even mentions...
... for one, it would help appeal to a number of Hillary supporters by bridging the gap between the economic successes of the Clinton/Gore years, and today.

But Gore's been quite clear that he's not interested in anything other than the top office if he ever runs again. It won't happen, but it is, frankly, the best ticket I can think of.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:30 PM
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20. Unless he would do it to insure a victory...he could be the environmental
Edited on Sun May-18-08 10:32 PM by movonne
vice-president..that way he could keep doing the work he is doing right now..
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:21 PM
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9. That would be an insult to Gore
but I'm not surprised Obama supporters are pushing it. They don't seem to have any concept of treating other Dem leaders with respect. How does this square with all the attacks Obama supporters made claiming failure of the Clinton-Gore administration?
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:23 PM
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15. I wonder who Gore will vote for as a SD.
I think his vote might depress you.
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Renaissance Man Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:25 PM
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17. An insult to Gore?
Are you serious? Al Gore represents what America should have been over the course of the last eight years, and what was taken from America by the Supreme Court.

If anything, this would complement the good decisions that Sen. Obama has already made and the team that has surrounded him. If Gore wouldn't be a VP candidate, I would love for Sen. Obama to appoint him as an energy/environmental czar so that we could get a two-fer and start making some measurable changes to make us energy independent and work on solving some environmental issues.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:35 PM
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24. I believe that Gore and other powerful people were always behind
him..I think they want this country to go in a new direction and they found the man to do it...just a thought..
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:42 PM
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28. Pffffft. How typical of a Hillary supporter to presume to speak for someone like Al Gore.
You DO realize there's no love lost between Him and Hillary, right?

Oh, and by the way, before I was an "Obama supporter" I was a Gore Supporter. He was always my first choice for this year.

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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:22 PM
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11. Why would Gore be second in command to a lightweight with no accomplishments like Obama?
That is, quite frankly, insulting to Gore.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:23 PM
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12. It would be awesome, but it relies on the assumption that Gore would take it...
which the poster doesn't even bother to argue for.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:23 PM
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13. I believe he does not want to be a politician anymore.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:23 PM
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14. Kos is nuts.
Why in hell would Gore do that?

Even to suggest it is demeaning and an insult to Gore.

Geez. Some people.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:13 AM
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41. Damned straight.
I think even Obama knows enough not to insult Gore that way.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:24 PM
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16. Gore is above the office (n/t)
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:25 PM
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18. Shit! Shit! Kos is waiting and I can't think of an original story for today! Oh, wait - Gore as VP w
This idea has been floating around for months and months. I'm not against it but this Kos writer doesn't really have anything new to suggest.



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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:30 PM
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19. If he didn't want to be president ...

If he didn't want to run for a shoe in nomination as President, why would he accept the VP post.

Now, he WOULD make a kick ass chief of staff to jump start the administration. Then he could walk away after a couple of years.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:31 PM
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21. He was Veep for 8 years already.
It would be beneath him. No way.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:33 PM
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22.  Actually, DHinMI makes
a pretty case for Gore. It would be a whole other ball game working with someone who is trying to do the best for our country.

But, Gore wouldn't want to put Obama and the country through the m$$$fm's rehashing of Gore.
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:47 PM
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30. He would be the best person for the job
DHinMI makes the case for that
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:33 PM
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23. Why, why on earth would Al Gore ever want to be vice president--again?
He has found his life's calling in his battle against global warming and he is working to help save this very planet. He has grown far beyond the petty politics of this country. Yes, his is still an important voice but I no longer expect him to be involved in politics or tied to its limitations. He will never be a political candidate again.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:35 PM
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25. I Have The Perfect Solution...
Put Gore in charge of the VP selection team.

If he pulls a Cheney and selects himself, fine.

But he would be most qualified to help select the right person other than himself.

Discuss.

:shrug:
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:43 AM
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46. I agree let him pick...
I had this silly idea that Gore could be VP for just 4 yrs to get obama elected then second term obama could pick someone else. during that time as VP gore gets to do whatever he wants for the environment, like a special agency that he alone is in charge of...

that way obama can concentrate on war and healthcare and economy.

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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:36 PM
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26. He won't take it. He's got a different job now. One that can't be limited by politics.
And I admire and respect him greatly for it.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:40 PM
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27. Been There, Done That, Been There Don't Wanna Go Back
Brian Eno: Lyrics

I Was Dreaming
It's a Hundred and Ninety Degrees
We Were Crawling Around On Our Knees
Till the Sun Came Up At Quarter to Three
But the Time We Had
Dirty Clothes and Dirt On Our Walls
Swinging On the Bathroom Doors
Thinking We Were Having a Ball
Until Somebody Said They'd

Been There, Done That
Been There, Don't Wanna Go Back
Been There, Done That
Been There, Don't Wanna Go Back

Yesterday I Called You On the Telephone
To Tell You I Was Feeling Alone
Where You Been For the Last Few Days?
I Want You Back
Put My Feet Back On the Ground
I Don't Need the Lost and Found
I Need Somebody to Tell Me When I've

Been There, Done That
Been There, Don't Wanna Go Back
Been There, Done That
Been There, Don't Wanna Go Back

A Broken Heart
Won't Get You Much Further Than a Cold Heart
We're Getting, Getting Better, We're Running Back
Running Back, Back to You and I'm Feeling That
You're the Money Or the Good Times
When I've Been There...



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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:50 PM
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31. Ain't gonna happen... political pragmatism
Don't get me wrong. I like and respect Gore.

But there are too many people who hate him. Over the Nobel Prize they say he didn't deserve. Over his obsession (theirs, not mine) over global warming. His use of private jets (and his detractors may have a point here) when he could fly coach, like all of us other worms, or at least fly first class. He still flies in fuel guzzling corporate jets that leave Godzilla sized global footprints compared to commercial aircraft.

He's suffering from the Hillary syndrome. They're both good, strong, influential people with leadership skills most of us can just stand in awe of as we look at them. But for whatever reason, there's a substantial number of Americans who think Senator Clinton and former Vice President Gore are pond scum. I disagree with them.

But you can't (without intense effort) change welded-shut closed minds.

Whether it's Senator Clinton or Senator Obama who wins the nomonation, they must be very careful about their running mate choice. They can't afford to make McGovern's Eagleton mistake in 1972, or anything close to it.

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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:50 PM
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32. Why would Gore want to be VP again?
That's crazy talk.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:52 PM
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33. what an assinine notion! nt
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 12:53 AM
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35. Why don't we let Al Gore
decide what is or isn't 'beneath him?'
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:07 AM
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39. But he already has.
Has stated publicly that he will not take any position but that of the President.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:52 AM
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58. Oh! Didn't know that -
Well then! That issue's settled :)
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:14 PM
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64. Unfortunately.
At this point, I'd be glad for him to be in any influencing position. But I have to trust he know's what he's doing.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:22 AM
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42. Gore's been there and done that and I'm sure he wouldn't
do it again. I think he would be great to run with Obama but I just can't see him settling for second place again.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:22 AM
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43. He.Doesn't.WANT.the.Job.
Christ on stick, what part of NO don't some people understand?

And to be VP again after winning the presidency?

That suggestion will go over like a lead balloon. :eyes:
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rove karl rove Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:38 AM
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45. if anything it ought to be Gore/Obama n/t
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:03 AM
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47. that won't happen either. n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:27 AM
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48. He intends to help heal the party for 08 but as VP is dreaming.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:29 AM
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49. Always a bridesmaid and never a bride...not gonna happen. nt
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:32 AM
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50. I doubt it would happen
and he doesn't want it anyway. He's much happier doing what he is doing now.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:35 AM
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51. This sounds like a fantasy football player choosing a fantasy VP...
Yeah, I'm sure Gore shows up well in the various state categories - he really fills the bracket in fact. But this is not fantasy politics. And Gore will not agree to it, nor should Obama ask. Picking Gore as VP diminishes both Gore AND Obama, who runs the risk of looking lessor than his VP choice.

Don't get me wrong - he's a great fantasy pick, but I'm hoping Obama picks based on reality.
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Galway girl Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:42 AM
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52. Don't agree ..Gore didn't endorse him so no way in my opinion ...I like Richardson for the Hispanic
Vote
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:45 AM
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53. No question that Gore would be best, but I can't see him being interested in the job.
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:49 AM
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54. Agreed.
Why would he want to play 2nd fiddle a 2nd time? Besides he's accomplished far more where he's at right now.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:56 AM
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56. This punch-line fails miserably.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:02 AM
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57. never going to happen
AL has more important things to do with the rest of his life.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 12:21 PM
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59. Obama could make it worth Gore's while, and his own.
If Obama has the humility to recognize Gore's vast experience and expertise, and if Gore has the humility to recognize Obama's ability to inspire, then Gore could have a great role.

Obama could use Gore seriously as an advisor who knows how the presidency works, who knows the international poltical scene, and who knows about the issues facing the country. The two of them seem to share a lot of vision and have a lot of vision. There's no shame for Obama in recognizing that Gore has a lot going for him. Then give Gore a portfolio of responsibilities that really do use his unique capability (Environment is the obvious area, but also some diplomacy, some economics, etc.) This would make the Obama presidency more successful. And why wouldn't Obama want that?

What's in it for Gore? Well, what could Obama offer that would make it worthwhile for Gore? Gore would have no interest being there as window dressing. But Gore has nothing left to prove, and would want to have an impact on the world. Obama could give him a role where Gore does have more impact on the world.

If the two of them can work it out right, this could be great. Would probably help in the election too, with regard to the experience tag.

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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 12:31 PM
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60. I thought change meant something. Hillary no. Gore no. Edwards no.
I am a Gore supporter from day one, but if Obama supporters want that "change" thingy to be real, it does not mean going to the temple of lost campaigns for your person.

There is no other human capable of helping him win the WH that is not a republican(Hagel)or just all around intelligent, well known, and not from a past losing presidential election?
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 12:34 PM
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61. The "Kossaks" must be all aflutter over this idea!
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