It's OUR whitehouse, not Obama's

[Uben]

If Obama is nominated and elected, don't lose the fact that it is OUR whitehouse, not his. We, collectively as democrats, will be the ones who install him in office. That said, I hear so many of you say you do not want Clinton as VP. Well, guess what, it's not your whitehouse, it's ours! The sooner you understand that, the sooner you will realize that we need unity to pull this off. Without it, there is no chance. So, when you are making your hateful, selfish statements about Clinton, remember, about half the democrats in this nation voted for her.

If there is to be a woman as VP this go round, it will be Clinton. Choosing another in her place will only serve to alienate some of her supporters, something we, as a party, cannot afford. The only exception would be a brokered deal between Obama and Clilnton, something some say is happening right now.

So, you Obama people need to put your vitriol towards Clinton aside, and do what is best for the party, something you have been preaching to us Clinton supporters for months.

[marmar]

1. "It's OUR whitehouse, not Obama's"

Nobody says that more often or more eloquently than Barack Obama himself. :think:

[Uben]

6. That's why..

....I will have no problem voting for him. I have never said a thing bad about him because I see the potential greatness in an Obama administration and what it can do for our country!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

57. Obama campaign has vetting and disclosure process for potential VPS

word is that the Clinton's will not want to participate in that, and further it would take
too long to "vet" them and go through all of their documents.

Whoever is VP will have to provide full disclosure.

[papapi]

120. And about 50% of Americans said they didn't have any use for Hillary anyway.

[Kahuna]

121. Bless your heart for saying that.

:grouphug:

[saltpoint]

14. Bingo.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

40. If Obama loses- it will be because of his followers: "scoffing, judgemental,entitled, we're perfect"

and then the cult-type worship. He doesn't prominently display that but many of his supporters do. It only makes people think that HE is like that. I've noticed that he has become much more low-key and has tried to act more humble.

[Brundle_Fly]

68. At this point the undying support of a losing candidate

looks LOADS more like a CULT following than people following the Obama campaign...

just FYI.

[gateley]

84. People aren't voting for a candidate's supporters, for the love of God. nt

[haymakeragain]

90. Yeah, we're sorry we got pissed when you threw that kitchen sink.

Not.

[roguevalley]

73. I am tired of op's like this, threatening and foisting hillary as if she

matters. VP will be whomever he chooses. flailing your gal around doesn't make her palatable. she just looks worse. Go play somewhere else.

[endarkenment]

2. As soon as Clinton ends her campaign and calls off her attack dogs

I will be glad to stop defending Obama here against her attacks.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

55. She'll NEVER stop until she assumes the throne.

[road2000]

101. Your sig line...

almost makes me want to change my vote in tomorrow's primary.

Pretty nasty.

[WeDidIt]

3. The left blogosphere will ahve to hold his feet to the fire

The right rolled over and went along with everything that Bush said.

Teh left is not so willing to stop thinking, though.

[knixphan]

82. well said

[Lilith Velkor]

94. About time they got started

Otherwise, they are in for a shock if he wins.

[EnviroBat]

4. Sorry for your loss...

Not going to happen.

[Uben]

9. I'm used to losing.....

.....so, it's no big deal. But, if it doesn't happen, you better get used to it too!

[stray cat]

5. I'm part of "our" and I'm not ready to tell Obama who the VP will be....

[cali]

7. Agreed. I've never thought anything else. Why on earth would

you think I, or other Obama supporters, did? And I have no problem with Clinton being Obama's VP choice.

[Uben]

21. Cali...........

...you have been one of the sane voices here at GD:P, but there are many Obama supporters who have expressed that they want no part of a Clinton involvement. One guy in particular, his name is "ignored"!

[cali]

28. Yeah, I know a lot of Obama supporters are ridiculous

about Clinton being on the ticket, but just like Clinton supporters who say that they won't vote for Obama, the vast majority of Obama supporters will get on board if there's a unity ticket.

[seabeyond]

64. but surely we are "allowed" to have a preference and it doesn't make

a person ridiculous.

just cause i dont want hillary to be vp and i dont think it is a good idea, i can give reasons, doesn't make me ridiculous. it just means i have an opinion.

this is the silliness i am hearing. IF an obama supporter doesn't acquiesce then they are hateful, ridiculous, and whatever else this op and others may chose to call out. to disagree, argue or have an opinion is not a bad or wrong thing and can be done respectfully and should be valued as no more or less.

[Auntie Bush]

110. I look at it this way.......

ANY ticket that has Obama on it will receive 100% of the votes of Obama supporters...won't matter one Odie if Hillary is on the ticket. ...they will not not vote for him if she's in the ticket. Can you just imagine an Obama supporter not voting for him or staying home because Hillary is also on the ticket?...NOT going to happen!

If the ticket does not have Clinton on it...many Hillary supporters (about 1/2 the Democrats) may NOT vote for Obama, (Why should they if they do not like Obama and Hillary is no where insight? Many will not vote at all or vote for McCain...although many still will regardless.

Having Clinton on the ticket ensures Obama a win! No Clinton...the election is up for grabs. Simple mathematics!

[newmajority]

8. It's OUR Whitehouse, and the BushClintons have had it long enough

Our 28 year national nightmare is just about over, thank Gof.

[Auntie Bush]

112. Waaaaat? It was a national nightmare of peace and prosperity when Clinton was president?

Care to rethink that? You don't have to dismiss Bill Clinton's presidency just because you like Obama. Can't they both be good?

[newmajority]

117. A lot of the things Bill Clinton did in the 1990's are killing us now

FAUX Noize and AOL's ownership of CNN would not exist without the 1996 Telecommunications Act. All those jobs outsourced and corporate "officies" in the Cayman Islands would not exist without the global corporatist trade agenda pushed by the Clintons. Clinton should have erased the previous 12 years of Bush Crime Family trickle down voodoo economics. Instead, he just painted a happy face on it.

Sure it's easy to be clouded by nostalgia now, since Chimpy has been such a complete trainwreck. But that doesn't make Bill a Liberal champion.

[AllentownJake]

10. We made Obama the nominee

He gets out of line we will unmake him and he knows that.

[sfam]

11. How will selecting another woman alienate Hillary supporters?

A good percentage of women voting for Hillary want to see a woman in the white house. Why will selecting a different woman, one without the baggage, be a bad strategy?

[Terran]

18. Get with the program sfam!

Didn't you know that Hilary is our ONLY chance for seeing a woman in the White House for all eternity??

[sfam]

22. Oh right...God has banned all women not named Hillary from seeking the presidency...

After all, she was entitled to it...

[virtualobserver]

19. good question

[graycem]

27. I think it would be.

I think many of the people who are voting for Hillary would be more angry with another woman than anyone else because, well, if he's going to pick a woman, why not Hillary? And I tend to agree with them. I would be upset if the reverse were true, and Hillary won and then picked another African-American as an attempt to "satisfy" people who wanted to see an African-American candidate. It would seem very tokenish, and that's not a good thing. That's why I believe if he chooses a female, it will be Hillary.

[BadgerKid]

30. I can see your point however

if Obama wins and were to put HRC in his cabinet (Health and Human Services, anyone?) or nominate her for SC, would that dispell the possible perception of token female? I don't think Obama thinks this way though.

[graycem]

33. Don't get me wrong..

I'm not necessarily saying that would be his reasoning for picking someone like Sebelius, but I do think that's how it would be perceived, and it would cause more headache for him than it's worth.

If he's going to go with a woman, it might as well be the female who is Hillary. I mean, we cannot ignore the fact that she has gotten half the votes, so I don't think a cabinet slot would be enough. I would like her on the SC but we wouldn't know that until after the election so he would do better to go with the white male than another female. Just how I see it, which has absolutely no effect on his choice, unless he calls me, I'll tell him then. :P

[Liberal Gramma]

32. Logical. I can see your point

and I agree, but I'd like to see someone with foreign policy experience and/or economic policy expertise in the VP slot.

[graycem]

36. I would too, as far as

foreign policy/military goes, if he's not going to choose Hillary. I think that's his only "weakness" perceived by some because the media keeps playing the line. The reason they do is because that's McCain's one strong point, if you can call it that. His "war hero" status which makes him the foreign policy/military expert, which I find ridiculous, will be what the GOP pushes this cycle. I personally do not think Obama has that weakness just because I like and agree with the way he thinks, but he has to appeal to the majority so, that might be his best hope. Someone like Webb or Clark.

[sfam]

37. What if someone other than Hillary helped his prospects more, and was a better choice for him?

Taking someone outside of Washington is probably important, as is someone with executive experience. If this is the calculation, you have folks like Strickland, Romer, Richardson, Sebelius and Napolitano. Are you saying Obama should discount Sebelius and Napolitano because they are women?

What if, in addition to the exec experience, the calculation is he wants someone attractive to independents and republicans, someone that can help him in the midwest and the West, and someone that can help re-energize women towards his campaign. Would Sebelius be the best choice in this equation? Are you saying women wouldn't buy off on this line of reasoning?

Just to be clear, if Obama felt foreign policy where more critical or a specific state were more critical, obviously he'd go in another direction.

[graycem]

44. No, I'm not saying "women"

I wouldn't care one whit who he chooses, he's still my candidate. I'm saying Hillary supporters would see it as a slap in the face. Just do a poll here and test the theory. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, but I don't think it is wise to ignore how it would be perceived. Hillary has nearly half the votes of the party. We cannot ignore that regardless of feelings we might personally have about her. Many women, half the Democratic voters, have as much faith in her as we have in Obama. It is more than just the female factor. It is her they want. They've said as much over and over again.

[sfam]

48. By that reasoning they'll potentially see it as a slap if he chooses anyone but Hillary...

this could be the case. I don't doubt it. I'm just not sure they get more angry with a Sebelius pick over say, a Richardson pick or perhaps a Clark pick.

[graycem]

49. But they would because of that very reason..

don't you see. We've done it ourselves here. We've been saying what other strong woman could he pick to get the female vote. You can't deny that's why her name was chosen here over and over again. I've seen the polls asking that very question. She WOULD be perceived as being chosen simply because she's a "qualified" woman, and not even more qualified than Hillary.

And, I tend to agree with that. If he's going to choose a woman to help with the female vote, it needs to be the one who has gotten half the Democratic votes, despite how we feel about her, many people, HALF of the democrats in this country want her. Ignoring that is just not politically wise.

[sfam]

107. So...no chance he could choose a VP choice that just happens to be...

a woman, who helps him with a range of things related to experience, region AND a voting block? Isn't this part of a normal selection process for choosing a VP - shoring up experience, shoring up a region or state, and shoring up a voting block?

I think a very reasonable case can be made that people other than Hillary would be better for helping Barack win. I think a number of candidates come to mind, including Strickland, Richardson, Romer, Clark and Sebelius. To simply discount Sebelius because she has the misfortune of being the same sex as Hillary seems very problematic to me.

In short, a case can easily be made that as a VP candidate, Sebelius IS more qualified than Hillary. She has solid executive experience (Hillary does not), she helps both in the west and in midwest (Hillary helps in the midwest, and perhaps Florida), and she is appealing to independents and republicans (Hillary has high negatives among this group). If Obama decides that these criteria are necessary to get elected, but does not pick her due to the Hillary.

The argument that "we've done it to ourselves" because we also see that Sebelius has the added bonus of appealing to women doesn't really work for me either. I see your point, and perhaps you are right on target in terms of how they will "see" it, but if Hillary supporters are more angry over Obama picking a different woman versus a man, they really need to check their assumptions for incongruencies.

[roguevalley]

79. no. i am saying the only arrow in mccain's quiver is the military thing.

obama should neutralize it. a woman won't. unless you draft a female general.

[krkaufman]

115. Except you're ignoring the fact that he wouldn't just be picking "another woman" ...

... for the sake of picking another woman. He would be picking a VP candidate who wouldn't bring the same baggage to the campaign.

The "Clinton" name will energize Right Wing voters, which will be unfortunate since they're none too thrilled with McSame.

[roguevalley]

76. because they are fanatics. I want someone who will bring something

to the ticket besides bad blood.

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[Uben]

15. There are idiots on both sides

I try not to engage either. They are only looking for attention or to exchange barbs. I don't play those games. This election is too serious!

[Buzz Clik]

24. I see. So, Obama people need to put aside vitriol but not Clinton supporters.

Just needed clarification.

Now, you were saying something about shoving Hillary down our throats?

[greguganus]

52. Crickets. n/t

[ampad]

53. So true

Are we still waiting for a response?

[roguevalley]

80. they are sitting shiva on her campaign. they aren't responsible

for their more legitimate and deeply felt angst about their queen being dethroned.

[saltpoint]

13. Victim Hillary. Victim Hillary. Victim Hillary.

Y'all need a new meme.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

56. How do you think Hillary got to be Senator?! She's made a living being a victim.

[hfojvt]

77. that's absurd. She got to be Senator the same way Elizabeth Dole did

by having a famous name and connections to fundraisers through her husband.

Another factor for Hillary is that she did an excellent campaign of barnstorming upstate New York with Town Hall meetings.

[kenny blankenship]

71. Villary?

or maybe after a full year of this bullshit just saying "Hillary" is enough now to invoke the concept of sanctified victimhood.

[Renew Deal]

16. And you Clinton supporters need to move on and get over it.

Hillary got almost half the votes, but she still lost. It's Obama's call. If he picks her, I'm OK with it (even though it's a mistake), and if he doesn't it's OK too. So you Clinton supporters need to put your sense of entitlement aside and do what's best for the party.

[tabatha]

17. Obama has always said that change comes from the

bottom up - i.e. from "we the people".

He would never claim the white house as his - if you think that, you do not know what he is about.

Certainly the white house belongs to everyone, and whoever gets to go there, does so because of "our" votes.

There seems to be an attempt by Hillary supporters to overturn the "our" votes for hers only.

So your post is highly ironic.

[NJmaverick]

20. It's also our Democratic party and our party selected Obama

This same party will also decide if Hillary is the best choice. Although traditionally the winner of the nomination gets to pick the person they want to run with. Why do you feel that a strong second place finish in the presidential race, translates into an automatic first place finish in the VP race? VP is usually not a consulation prize. The person that is picked as VP, is usually done based on how they enhance the ticket.

[WinkyDink]

23. Two words, OP: White House.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House

[nomaco-10]

25. Another veiled threat....

If we can't have a hillary presidency then she must be vp or there will be no unity. WE GET IT!!

Here's what you don't get. It is his choice to make. So far he hasn't made any significant mistakes, he has run a brilliant campaign. I trust his decision on vp. I also trust that no one is gonna cram a vp he may or may not want down his throat. You may have to live with that and then decide if you want to go by the way of the embittered ferraro crowd. The GE is ours to win. Why would any decent democrat want to lessen those chances after the HELL we've been through in the last seven and a half years of bush*?

[FredScuttle]

26. Vote for the fucking Democratic ticket in November or fuck off

I don't know how much plainer I can put it...

[sfaprog]

29. Oh, goody, I always wanted a big lawn to play on! When do I pick up my keys?

It's Obama's decision to make, and there's no way it's going to be Clinton.

She will only enter the WH as a visitor, for the rest of her life. She blew her only chance. Accept it and move on, you are embarrassing yourself with these tantrums.

[stray cat]

31. Does that mean we don't get to move in?

[madrchsod]

34. well ya...i think most grown-ups know that

and of course it`s "our party"......i do`t need to put anything "aside". i loathe hillary`s political philosophy and feel sad for her because of the needless way she handled her campaign. i thought she should have done better.

[barack the house]

35. There was a poll on here and not everybody will take her defeat without grace..

Obama is entitled to pick whoever he wishes as vp as Hillary would of been with Clark.

[redstate_democrat]

38. If making Hillary Obama's VP is the only way "hard working whites" will

vote in their own economic and security interests, then so be it. But Bill Clinton needs to stay the HELL out of Obama's way. He has no say in anything that happens in the WH. NO DLC influence at all.

But I honestly don't think he needs to put Hillary on to win, IMHO.

[mmonk]

39. What a strange thing to say.

Maybe someone ought to tell your candidate and also her supporters that refuse to support the nominee should it be Obama.

[publicatlarge]

42. Obama should not select a woman for VP...

He would always have to be on guard to not call her 'Sweetie'.

:)

[Uben]

43. I can't speak for anyone but myself, Monk

But, I will definitely be voting for the nominee, and I suspect most of the Clinton supporters will as well. We are democrats, and should all vote for the nominee, regardless.

You know as well as I that there are some folks who will bitch and gripe if their candidate was crowned supreme ruler of the world!
I will vote for the nominee regardless of his/her VP pick. When faced with a republican as the alternative, I can't see any democrat doing otherwise. The point I was attempting to make, and obviously didn't do too good of a job, was that an Obama/Clinton ticket would probably be the strongest, and give us the best chance of a win in November. I supported Clinton for her healthcare reform policy, and the fact I believe she is the only one that will get it done. As VP, she can do just as much to forward that agenda as being president, IMO.

A bi-racial president and a female veep! That would send a message to the world that the U.S. seeks a change from the neo-con lunacy that has taken place the last 7 years. The Clinton name is held in high esteem overseas, despite what some here might say or think.

[Barack_America]

41. If the vitriol seems one-sided, you must have as many Clinton supporters on ignore as I do.

Even with my healthy ignore list, most of the anger here seems to come from the Clinton side.

[Uben]

47. HA!

As a matter of fact, I do! I don't think people are angry with Obama or Clinton, just some of the more audacious posters here at GD:P!

[CoffeeCat]

45. How in the world is Obama/Clinton a unity ticket?

LOL!

3/4 of Obama supporters can't stand her or her politics. 30 percent of all Clinton supporters, say they
won't vote for Obama.

How is this unity?

It's a disaster!

I'm for Obama uniting our party and selecting a vp that he trusts, respects and feels would be best for the job--and
also someone who can unite our party and sail us into the White House.

If you do the math (75 percent of Obama supporters not wanting her; 30 percent of Hillary supporters detesting
Obama), that leaves about 50 percent of supporters in this "political marriage" very unhappy.

Unity? I don't think so.

[CoffeeCat]

46. duplicate

[Crunchy Frog]

50. I don't want Hillary as VP.

It's nothing to do with hate, I just think she would be a tremendous liability on the ticket.

[rucky]

51. Let's get into the White House first, shall we?

[H2O Man]

54. Ireland belongs to me.

[roguevalley]

81. I wish I was in Ireland. Been too long. :)

[seabeyond]

58. so you hold the winner hostage on who he asks for HIS vp or you make sure he loses

thru your unwillingness for support and the vote. yet you dont see the very hypocrisy in going blindly at the obama supporters in your own hate

[Stop Cornyn]

59. Sure, it's our house, but we're gonna invite him to be our guest for the next 8 years, OK?

[Adelante]

60. Obama gets to choose his VP

As for me, I'm tired of threats.

[phrigndumass]

61. Fine, but the Green House belongs to ME!

It's where I grow things.

MINE, MINE, MINE!

[shadowknows69]

62. I'm so sick of it, FUCK her supporters with a chainsaw

If they can't get over themselves enough to vote for our nominee, fuck em. Hate to tell you this but there are many more women out there that will carry the Democratic flag with more honor than Hillary could after her despicable behavior on the campaign trail. Obama has proven he can create plenty of new voters. We will win with or without you. If it's without you then kiss the Mighty Clinton legacy goodbye, because it's in the sewer.

[Lilith Velkor]

92. More "my way or the highway" crap from the Hope n' Unity crew

Why don't you fuck yourself with a chainsaw first so we can see how it's done?

[shadowknows69]

93. It's not my way Lilith it's the Democratic way

Are we in this to beat the Republicans or ourselves?

[Lilith Velkor]

97. Ourselves, if we're telling half the party to fuck off and vote for McCain

Where are all those other voters going to come from?

Latinos? No, you just told 90% of them to get fucked.

The working class? No, you just told 65% of them to get fucked.

Women? No, you just told half of them to get fucked.

The elderly? No, you just told pretty much all of them to hurry up and die already, and before they go, to get fucked.

If that's the Democratic way, you can have it. The Greens will rise again. Too bad for those who will die in the meantime.

[burythehatchet]

103. I figuratively rec your post. I unilaterally disarmed once. Not again.

The POSIP needs to go.

[LaurenG]

63. Where did you come up with the idea that it was "Obama's Whitehouse"?

I'm happy to keep the vitriol out of this as well, it's getting really tiresome.

I do think Obama will offer the vice presidency to Senator Clinton but in the end it's his choice not ours.

[BlooInBloo]

66. Good ol fashioned MAKING SHIT UP - standard for Clinton supporters.

[Texas Hill Country]

70. and Obama's supporters have NEVER done that... nope, no way....

[ChairmanAgnostic]

74. Correct. besides, no one can hold a candle to her team's deceit and spin.

you really have to admire how they can set aside morals, ethics, honesty, integrity. I mean, it is incredible. They have no shame whatsoever on hillary's team, her included. NOT ONE BIT.

[emilyg]

75. We learned from Obama supporters.

[BlooInBloo]

78. It's funny because you don't even bother denying it.

[emilyg]

113. Why should I deny it = both sides guilty as charged.

[Beacool]

65. Hear, hear!!!!!!!

:thumbsup:

[Bensthename]

67. Get her a cry towel.. And no Hillary will not be VP to ruin the dems chances..

:cry:

[Texas Hill Country]

69. yeah, picking a different woman would be a hardcore slap to the face.

[msallied]

86. Which is perhaps what she deserves.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

72. i'll set aside my vitriol, when she sets aside her

racism, her bigotry, her lies, her deceit, and her baseless attacks on another democrat. AND when she apologizes and shows to regret for having not one iota of morals, shame or remorse.

THEN, I will set it aside.


NO DEAL? no surprise.

OBAMA needs to select someone who matches his temper, his core beliefs, and his goals for this country. Not because he needs the help in office, but because of a real, measurable, and substantial possibility that some asshole racist will try to assassinate him.

Kennedy's illness taught us something. We must anticipate the worst, and plan for it. Especially with Obama. Having her in as VP would be an utter, unacceptable, disgusting disaster.

[Lerkfish]

83. sooooo...

plomk

[Name removed]

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[SlipperySlope]

87. Obama + Hillary = Crackers + Bubble Gum

These two candidates DO NOT belong on the same ticket.

Yes - they are both very popular democrats. But they also represent extremely different visions for the direction the party and the country should go.

Putting them on the same ticket makes about as much sense as saying Kerry should have been B*sh's vice-president.

[GoesTo11]

88. A bigger US

Not just "we, collectively as democrats, will be the ones who install him in offoce."

We, collectively as AMERICANS, will be the ones who install him in office.

[hokies4ever]

89. It's not her V.P. coronation

It's Obama's decision. We don't vote on every decision of the President. That's not how it works. Also, we ARE doing what's best for the party. Hillary is seeking to serve her own ambitions instead of serving the party.

"If there is to be a woman as VP this go round, it will be Clinton. Choosing another in her place will only serve to alienate some of her supporters"

Oh, so it's only okay to have one woman viable for the presidency or for V.P. each election year. Hillary has used up the woman quota for 2008? Are you even listening to the logic that you're writing, or are you just shooting from the hip? Think before you write.

The coronation of Hillary will not be televised because she didn't win it. It just wasn't her turn after all. :rofl:

[Bensthename]

91. It will be Obama's White House. He earned it.. Get used to it.

[soaplover20012001]

95. yup

so true

[crimsonblue]

96. the inane rantings grow more delusional by the day...

next thread.

[stillcool]

98. The nominee decides..

who he/she wants for their Vice President,...not you, and not me. As much as she might think she is, Hillary Clinton is not owed a damn thing. Let her run in 2012. She is not getting "Her" White House through the back door.

[JackORoses]

99. It sure as hell isn't Hillary's. Although I've heard she did steal some of the furniture...

May it comfort her in the Political Wilderness.

[road2000]

105. I'm sure you're not an asshole...

But what an asshole thing to say. Regurgitated straight from the axis of Rove/Fleischer in 2000.

[JackORoses]

106. no an asshole thing to say would be,"McCain and I have lifetime's of experience, Obama has a Speech"

[sfaprog]

111. SMACK

:P

[ima_sinnic]

100. hillary is NOT going to be the VP, so get used to it

the idea is so dumb and ridiculous, it makes me puke. she is no longer fit to be a dog catcher, let alone VP. She is corrupt, sleazy, fake, a backstabber, a pathological liar, laden with enough baggage to fill 10 box cars, and comes as a package deal with a womanizing, media-circus husband who would love to elbow Obama out of the spotlight so he can pick up where he left off. Forget Hillary, she is now back-page news --tough I wish the news of her sleazy foreign billionaire bribery scam would make the front pages.

[burythehatchet]

102. Perhaps some gullible posters will heed your call to lay down arms. NOT ME

The POSIP is poison.

[TheDonkey]

104. Clinton as VP: It is not YOUR choice or the PUNDIT's choice to make it is OBAMA's

he must pick who he feels will best support him throughout this election process. It isn't about cheap political tricks or trying to placate you it is about HIM and HIS VISION.

[D23MIURG23]

108. Sure thing - I'll vote for Obama even if Clinton is his running mate.

But supposing Clinton and Obama choose to go their separate ways, what then? Do you still accept your share in our whitehouse?

[AtomicKitten]

109. When she concedes, all will be well in the universe.

Til then Obama is not going to give her the opportunity to stab him in the back which she will most certainly do in a heartbeat if she gets the chance.

[krkaufman]

114. Ok. But more than half did NOT vote for her....

.... some because they feel she would be a detriment in the GE, and having her in the VP slot on the ticket would be just as detrimental.

[casus belli]

116. You need to stop telling people what to do. n/t

[Daphne08]

118. What are you talking about?

I'm sorry, but your post doesn't even make sense.

[crimsonblue]

119. Kettle, This is Pot...

And we are both black.. thanks for your hypocrisy. next thread.