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Mon May-19-08 12:07 PM
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BREAKING: Obama opens up massive gigantic 16 point lead over Senator Clinton |
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Biggest yet
Gallup Daily: Obama Opens Up 16-Point Lead, Biggest YetLead is now 55% to 39% over ClintonUSA Democrats Election 2008 Gallup Daily Americas Northern America PRINCETON, NJ -- Gallup Poll Daily tracking finds Barack Obama with his largest advantage over Hillary Clinton in Democratic voters' nomination preferences thus far, 55% to 39%.
Obama's previous largest lead was 11 percentage points, in May 15-17 and April 12-14 polling. His widening lead over Clinton has been evident in each of the last three days of tracking, after the two had been more closely matched earlier in the month.
Clinton's largest lead in the Gallup Poll Daily tracking was 20 points in mid-January, when she led Obama 48% to 28% (John Edwards was still in the race at that time). (To view the complete trend since Jan. 3, 2008, click here.)
Tuesday, voters in Kentucky and Oregon will register their preferences for the Democratic nomination. Clinton is expected to win Kentucky and Obama Oregon. There is some speculation that Obama may declare victory given that he is expected to clinch a majority of the delegates available in the state primaries and caucuses (outside of the contested Florida and Michigan primaries). Clinton has vowed to stay in the race until all the primaries and caucuses have been held in early June.
Despite her growing deficit to Obama in the Democratic race, Clinton continues to poll slightly better than Obama in matchups for the general presidential election vs. John McCain. The latest tracking results, based on May 14-18 polling, shows Clinton with a 48% to 44% lead over McCain among registered voters nationwide, while Obama has just a 1-point edge (46% to 45%) over the likely Republican nominee. -- Jeff Jones
Go Obama!!
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Mon May-19-08 12:12 PM
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1. Voters are facing reality... |
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This is bad for Hillary.
Especially since she doesn't know what reality is. Her metric of "I'm winning by the popular vote!" in which she doesn't count SEVEN caucus states--is quite delusional.
I just want to run up to her and say, "You aren't running for homecoming queen, sweetheart! It's not about how popular you are! It's about the delegates!"
Maybe Wolfson can tell her, when she's ready to return to the land of the living.
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Mon May-19-08 03:51 PM
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44. She can get out with a clear conscience tomorrow night |
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. . . or Wednesday morning.
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Mon May-19-08 12:13 PM
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2. "I'm melting," Hillary was heard to say. |
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Mon May-19-08 12:15 PM
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Mon May-19-08 03:43 PM
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40. Obama opens up a massive gigantic can of whup-ass on Miss Hilly |
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Edited on Mon May-19-08 03:43 PM by TexasObserver
That's the headline I'd like to see.
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Mon May-19-08 04:22 PM
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51. uh, just to remind you, there's another election coming up in Nov. you might not want to burn too ma |
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Mon May-19-08 04:21 PM
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50. ooooh, hillary's a witch... wink wink..rhymes with...heh heh. losing votes for O, one at a time, a |
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aren't you. let me help you; right after you call hillary a bitch, call her supporters racists. that will work for sure.
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Mon May-19-08 08:44 PM
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73. Everybody knows you're voting for Mccain already |
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So grow the fuck up and stop trying get people to kiss your ass.
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Mon May-19-08 10:44 PM
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78. Another poor loser voting for Bush III are we? |
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Edited on Mon May-19-08 10:45 PM by Zambero
Bush II must have been a true inspiration. His time remaining in office is winding down, but your guy McCain will dish up another 4 years of the same, so you can breathe easy.
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Mon May-19-08 12:14 PM
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This is the prettiest damn graph I've seen in a while!!
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Mon May-19-08 12:16 PM
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6. like watching the shuttle drop its main fuel tank |
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Mon May-19-08 01:03 PM
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16. Points for mental imagery! |
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Mon May-19-08 01:30 PM
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22. like watching a hot-air balloon drop its sandbags |
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Mon May-19-08 12:16 PM
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Mon May-19-08 03:43 PM
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41. I want to RECCOMEND THIS GRAPH!!! |
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BEAUTIFUL! CONGRATS OBAMA AND HIS SUPPORTERS!
Sorry to shout but it feels DAMN GOOD!
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Mon May-19-08 04:02 PM
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48. Oh, it's a pretty caterpillar... |
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I especially like the widening antennas!
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Mon May-19-08 08:49 PM
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76. well she is no longer flatlining |
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Mon May-19-08 10:50 PM
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79. She's finished. Kaput. Done. Over. Toast. Washed-up. Hallalujah!!! |
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Mon May-19-08 11:50 PM
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84. celestial choirs have sung!! |
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Mon May-19-08 12:15 PM
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he is the nominee, he won
The party is coalescing around him
And to the Hillary Supporters, as a former Edwards Supporter, I invite you to join the rest of the party in the General Election
By the way, listening to Obama's speech today on MT... he already did
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Mon May-19-08 12:21 PM
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Mon May-19-08 12:24 PM
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10. I'm listening to him now; all about McCain, *, and how he'd do things |
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differently. Great speech!
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Mon May-19-08 12:16 PM
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Mon May-19-08 12:26 PM
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11. Uh oh! Who's going to tell Tropics Dude? |
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:)
Great news! Great to see the Democratic Party pull together behind Obama! He will be a fantastic nominee! :toast:
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Mon May-19-08 12:26 PM
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12. I think that Sen. Clinton would be helping |
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the fortunes of the Democratic Center Right by negotiating the majority leader Senate slot, as a concession.
Otherwise the DLC is going to find itself in a difficult position, as progressive, anti war Dems start filling former Widestance seats. That would be the position of not being the leadership. But it is not a disaster being the minority within the majority. You can always triangulate, for example.
I suggest they rebrand as the the Democratic Business Caucus. They will always have corporate input to bring to the table, and we are a big tent party.
They will always be our hawks, and sometimes you need to let them fly. Of course, they would be more useful to us if they were swooping on the wide stance party criminals as well.
But climate, oil, Iraq, and healthcare are moving the average Joe to the left. Sen. Clinton may stake out the center in the Senate, and do well.
It might even be a better thing for the nation in the long run.
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Mon May-19-08 12:46 PM
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13. she doesn't deserve a concession. Kerry didn't get one. None of |
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the other candidates got one. If its because she's a woman, then its SEXISM! SEXISM! SEXISM!
No. Truly, its sexism. giving the girl a prize for not pouring gasoline on all of us and striking the match is sexism.
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Mon May-19-08 02:58 PM
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32. It isn't a consession prize for running or for being a woman |
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it is an offer of a defined role for what's left of the DLC.
Better the Blue Dogs doing the party a good service than a long protracted struggle for control of a party whose center has moved to the left of them.
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Mon May-19-08 06:51 PM
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63. That's zinger if I ever read a description of |
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what's happening with hilary. That's the way I feel too.. NO CONCESSIONS FOR HILARY.
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Mon May-19-08 11:39 PM
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80. Hillary deserves a concession..... |
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...the Popcorn Concession in the Lobby.
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Mon May-19-08 01:24 PM
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20. "Former Widestance seats..." |
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:spray: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: DUzy of an image!
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Mon May-19-08 02:59 PM
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33. Damn, you sure have the right nickname! |
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Mon May-19-08 07:11 PM
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But climate, oil, Iraq, and healthcare are moving the average Joe to the left.
I think that's an excellent analysis. The terrorist attacks briefly moved everyone to the right under the guise of "safety" and "protection." But now that EVERYONE is hurting from rising fuel, gas and food prices, not to mention the erosion of civil rights and liberties under Bush, I think you're right and that more people will shift towards the left. Great point!
And props to EVERYONE for not responding to VotesforWomen!!!! Great job, folks!! I know it's hard.
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Mon May-19-08 08:01 PM
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70. Makes sense to me. I like it. |
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Stake out two tents for the Dems in congress.
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Mon May-19-08 12:57 PM
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Mon May-19-08 01:04 PM
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17. Just massive and gigantic. Not Ginormous?? |
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Common! Get the youth vote in there!
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Mon May-19-08 03:03 PM
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34. Massive, gigantic, ginormous, humongous and hugh |
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Mon May-19-08 01:06 PM
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18. In a poll. How big is her lead in Kentucky, an actual election? |
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Mon May-19-08 01:46 PM
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25. How big is her deficit in Oregon, an actual election. |
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There is NO correlation between a national poll and any individual state election.
Sheeesh.
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Mon May-19-08 02:20 PM
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28. Not as big as his in Kentucky. |
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National polls are meningless at this point. The actual elections are Tomorrow.
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Mon May-19-08 02:49 PM
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30. Wrong. Any national head-to-head between either of them and McCain |
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are meaningless, because they reflect the partisan answers of the primaries. National polls between Obama and Clinton, however, are perfectly valid - they are, in fact, the ONLY valid polls in assessing their standing with each other.
Are you really that confused?
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Mon May-19-08 02:54 PM
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31. To put it charitably to you, do you think there are many state primaries left? |
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Do you think a national poll of candidate preference is meaningful at this stage?
Are you really that inept?
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Mon May-19-08 03:11 PM
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Obama has the lead in pledged delegates, in superdelegates, in the popular vote and in number of contests won. AND national polls show him leading Hillary by a significant margin. Do you think the few remaining contests can possibly change that, at this stage?
Are you really that delusional?
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Mon May-19-08 03:42 PM
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39. It was when Clinton was on top. Why weren't you objecting then? |
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Mon May-19-08 03:47 PM
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43. I didn't say trhat then. |
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More to the point, national polls on primary preferences may have some interest at the beginning of state-by-state primaries. They are completely without meaning at the end.
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Mon May-19-08 08:49 PM
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74. Actually they have a pretty big meaning when Clinton's last argument is "Electability" |
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Wed May-21-08 09:44 AM
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85. Actually, just the opposite is true. |
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Before the primaries begin, nobody really knows the candidates. Polls at the beginning are nothing more than name recognition.
For instance, if California were to have a re-vote today, polls suggest that Obama would win it, not Hillary. Early polls gave it to her, and the early election date gave it to her, but now, with people knowing better who Obama is, there are millions with buyers remorse who would gladly switch to Obama if they could. The recent polls suggest that. Therefore, recent national polls, which show general trends across the country, ARE more indicative of what the public likes better than early polls, or even early elections.
It is those national polls that give me confidence that Obama is going to kick McCain's butt.
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Mon May-19-08 07:57 PM
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69. Are you saying Obama's lead doesn't count because most Dems have ALREADY voted? |
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Sheesh.
(btw, do you honestly think Karl Marx would back HRC? He probably wouldn't be that thrilled about Obama, but I can't see him endorsing somebody who once sat on the WalMart board. Disregard this, of course, if you're just anti-Obama instead of pro-HRC.)
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Wed May-21-08 09:48 AM
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87. Well, you know the old Marxist tactic - |
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give the corporate moneyed interests a free hand and they will destroy themselves. I think that Marx would be glad to see Hillary up against McCain - either way, the conflict between the leaders and the proletariat would be intensified. Marx would NOT like Obama - real liberals are an anathema to Marxists.
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Mon May-19-08 04:18 PM
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We're talking about THE COMBINED TOTAL OF all of the states.
See how that works?
It's called the Democratic Primary!
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Mon May-19-08 04:30 PM
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52. It's a poll. what's more it's an opinion poll on an event - the primaries - that's just about over. |
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Why don't you post a Kerry/Dean 04 poll?
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Mon May-19-08 01:09 PM
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19. I think the tectonic plates are shifting! mOBAMentum! n/t |
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Mon May-19-08 01:24 PM
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Mon May-19-08 01:34 PM
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23. Great news!!! - K&R!!!!! |
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Mon May-19-08 01:42 PM
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Mostly irrelevant at this point, but it sure makes it harder for Clinton supporters to claim buyers' remorse or argue that the primaries would have turned out differently if people knew about Rev, Wright earlier.
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Mon May-19-08 01:47 PM
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26. What about the other 6%???? |
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We are going to need them in November.
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Mon May-19-08 02:09 PM
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Mon May-19-08 02:45 PM
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29. Here's the graph for dramatic effect: |
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Edited on Mon May-19-08 02:46 PM by jenmito
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Mon May-19-08 03:24 PM
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36. Nice, Jen. Yes we can! n/t |
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Edited on Mon May-19-08 03:24 PM by Kukesa
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Mon May-19-08 03:37 PM
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37. Thanks, Kukesa! Yes we WILL! |
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Mon May-19-08 06:04 PM
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53. The people are just not that into her, her base is just more into white |
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Mon May-19-08 03:41 PM
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38. Hillary spreads her memes, and Obama plunges his massive lead into the chasm. |
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Mon May-19-08 04:00 PM
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47. His negatives have also caught up with Hillary's. Then, if you add Michelle's negatives... |
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Edited on Mon May-19-08 04:01 PM by Perry Logan
...and the alienation of a good deal of your own party--you have VICTORY! A song for the next First Lady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu6Ce2Kl58o
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Mon May-19-08 06:13 PM
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54. BREAKING: Clinton Opens A Massive 26 Piont Lead over Obama! |
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Hillary Clinton 51% Barack Obama 25%
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Mon May-19-08 06:17 PM
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55. At least the OP is based in reality, not lunacy. |
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Mon May-19-08 06:18 PM
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57. Now, if only KY could make any difference! How many SDs have come out for Hillary since WV? |
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Mon May-19-08 06:19 PM
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59. Ths subject line is... unfortunate. -nt |
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Mon May-19-08 06:20 PM
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60. WTF?! LOL love the desperation! |
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Mon May-19-08 06:17 PM
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56. Now this is big! New low for Hillary. New high for Obama. |
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The Presumptive Loser and the Presumptive Nominee.
IT'S FUCKING OVER HILLARY!
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Mon May-19-08 06:19 PM
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58. His Nominee Bump will be huge! |
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Mon May-19-08 06:33 PM
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61. I'm not a big fan of Gallup's tracking poll... |
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Any poll which has crazy swings is not very reliable. That said, it appears as if Democrats are beginning to accept Obama as the nominee.
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Mon May-19-08 07:05 PM
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64. In a poll. A Gallup poll. |
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Which really means diddly-shit.
Oh, and nice post total of 33. The Obama DU supporters should be banned en masse, with their continuing waves of repetitive new accounts, so they can post more misleading spam.
That is, if DU had any integrity.
...What am I saying? :sarcasm:
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Mon May-19-08 07:19 PM
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68. What the devil are you blathering about? Must be a case of Mad Hillary disease. |
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Mon May-19-08 11:48 PM
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83. Shhhhh!.......another LIV. |
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Mon May-19-08 08:01 PM
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71. Hey, you must be one of them thar "unity" candidate supporters! .... |
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I can tell by that positive, supportive e-mail!
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Mon May-19-08 08:03 PM
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72. That poll WILL be noticed by one small but important group of people |
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Uncommitted super delegates. :bounce:
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Mon May-19-08 08:49 PM
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75. Stick a fork in her. She's done... |
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Mon May-19-08 09:03 PM
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77. Yet he still can't plot a win in the GE |
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What is Obama trying to tell us? That a Democratic Party win in November doesn't matter?
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Mon May-19-08 11:40 PM
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81. He can. Saying it over and over doesn't make it any less false. |
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Wed May-21-08 09:44 AM
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86. Sure he can, and he can do it more easily than Clinton can. |
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