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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:45 PM
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Obama asks "What are George Bush and John McCain afraid of"? / "Strong" Presidents Aren't Afraid
Edited on Mon May-19-08 02:22 PM by Pirate Smile
to Meet With Enemies

Obama Responds To McCain: "Strong" Presidents Aren't Afraid To Meet With Enemies

By Greg Sargent - May 19, 2008, 1:47PM

Barack Obama, in Montana, responded moments ago to McCain's ridicule of the Illinois Senator for saying that Iran is a minuscule threat compared to the former Soviet Union.

McCain said this revealed Obama's "inexperience and reckless judgment." Here's the key part of Obama's reply...
Meet With Enemies

"Here's the truth: the Soviet Union had thousands of nuclear weapons, and Iran doesn't have a single one. But when the world was on the brink of nuclear holocaust, Kennedy talked to Khrushchev and he got those missiles out of Cuba. Why shouldn't we have the same courage and the confidence to talk to our enemies? That's what strong countries do, that's what strong presidents do, that's what I'll do when I'm president of the United States of America."


Obama also said: "What are George Bush and John McCain afraid of"?

This sort of thing will thrill Democrats who want to see how a Democratic presidential candidate will fare if he adopts something other than the oft-employed "hawkish" rhetoric that's supposedly necessary for Dems to win an argument with Republicans about national security.

Judging by these early skirmishes between McCain and Obama -- who appears to be trying to do nothing less than redefine what it means to be "strong" and "tough" on foreign policy -- we may soon find out.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/obama_responds_to_mccain_stron.php#comments


I want to reiterate that last part by Greg Sargent of TPM - Obama is "trying to do nothing less than redefine what it means to be "strong" and "tough" on foreign policy"


:applause:

Also - I initially wanted to put this in GD because it is about Obama v. McCain but when I read the explanation that pops up re whether to use GD or GD: P, it looked like it needed to go in here. I just don't want the people who avoid GD: P like the plague to miss it.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:46 PM
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1. Republicans are cowards who hide behind soldiers and inside "undisclosed" locations.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:50 PM
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2. Obamba knows exactly how to handle Bush and McCain.
He's going to kill them.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:50 PM
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3. GOOD!! I pray this morphs into a "reThugs are weak on defense" argument because they are
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:51 PM
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4. I can't wait. After 8 years of being the "sissy" party, we get to call THEM out on cowardice.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:58 PM
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7. That will be a highlight too, it will get the attention towards Bush fuck ups towards Iraq and 911.
...The argument can be made because of the facts and I'd like to see the Obama fangs bite on to this and NOT let go.

Hit them where they think they are strongest
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:09 PM
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9. To think a nation with the most lethal arsenal the world has ever known can unleash its might
against a poor small third world country, killing, maiming, mutilating, and destroying with impunity in the process and consider itself to have a strong leader is criminally delusional at best. :D
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:52 PM
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5. "Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate." - JFK.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 01:56 PM
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6. Indeed, what exactly are those two afraid of????
My future President asks GREAT questions! :patriot:
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:03 PM
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8. "You don't make peace with friends. You make it with very unsavory enemies"
so said the late Israeli PM Yitzak Rabin.

This is done, if for no other reason than what the fictional Mafia Don Corleone said: "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer"

:think:
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:15 PM
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10. No way McCain is going to withstand six months of this.
I'm betting on full-on meltdown, sooner than later.

And McCain keeps walking - no, make that jumping - into Obama's traps, saying silly shit that O can refute without breaking a sweat.

Someone here said it the other day - the Repubs are way out of shape, because they haven't had an opponent like this since Bill Clinton I.

- as

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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:21 PM
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11. Great response, and I'm not at all surprised
Obama personally and his campaign people have shown astonishing dexterity at turning around these attacks from Repubs and making *them* look bad instead. I know he's going to kick ass in this campaign. After all the whining about how "Obama won't be able to handle the Republican attack machine", I think stuff like this puts the lie to that nonsense.
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george_maniakes Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:21 PM
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12. Mccain's arguement by necessity plays up irans strength...obamas plays up america's strength...
id rather be declaring how strong america is then declaring how strong iran is if i was an american politician, thats just me.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:29 PM
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13. Bush meets with very few on anything anymore, everyone seems to be his enemy.
When you are a Narcissistic Megalomaniac you have no friends. It is good to know that those with early onset Dementia are able to relate and echo the words of those with Personality Disorders.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:30 PM
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14. now THAT is some good shit
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:32 PM
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15. Wow the days of meely mouthed Democrats are over
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:32 PM
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16. Finally
Expose the Republican foreign policy/national security myth for what it is. If it were up to, we'd put photos of Bin Laden up at the convention with "remember him?" captions underneath them.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:34 PM
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17. "What are George Bush and John McCain afraid of?"
They are afraid of you, Senator Obama.

- as
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:50 PM
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21. ding din ding. winner over here!
Game.

Set.

Match.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:35 PM
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18. What a KICK ASS response by Obama!!!!
:applause:
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:18 PM
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19. that's another thing i like about Obama - he fights back
with facts and truth.

repugs are allowed to get away with blatant lies. this is destroying democrasy.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:47 PM
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20. kick
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:52 PM
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22. Everytime I see some pundit talking about the stength of the repuke party is defense I scream
This meme that the repukes are sterong on defense is a fuckign mytht that needs to bee blown off the face of the earth.

They mostly are chickenhawks and those that have served, like McCain, misunderstand the complexity of using all assets at our disposal to affect change.

Obama will win this argument easily.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:25 PM
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23. Breaking the REPUKE "fear" frame once again n/t
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