The 'conventional wisdom' seems finally to be mirroring reality

[Stinky The Clown]

Hillary Clinton presses on, but with each 'press' and with each 'on' she becomes increasingly irrelevant.

Did anyone at all take Wolfson seriously in his morning show appearances today?

Did anyone find any credibility in McAuliffe's babblings on the afternoon cable shows?

Conventional wisdom has the Democratic primary won by Obama.

The Clinton camp was trying valiantly to give that fact lie. Now, they're just a side show.

Crazy John has engaged Obama. Obama has engaged Crazy John. Fuckface has taken to throwing shit at Obama. Obama has caught it and flung it back. Nowehere in the still nascent general election campaign is anything mentioned of Clinton.

Meanhile, in Clintonville, they're still busy moving goalposts, an act met with as much glee as was the conspiracy between Bob Irsay and William Hudnut, abetted by Richard Lugar, to move the Colts out of Baltimore.

Take as long as ya like, Hill ...... just turn the lights out when you guys are done. We'll be over here, in Realityville.

(edit to fix typo)

[endarkenment]

1. Rage rage against the moving of the posts

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

D. Thomas, whose left eyebrow could drink Senator Clinton under the table.

[Raven]

2. This is now a huge waste of time, energy and resources. We really

need to engage the Republicans. There were two major gaffes this week...Bush sliming Obama while in Israel and McCain siding with Bush. Obama took them both on in a fabulous way and now the rest of the party, including Clinton, needs to get with him and start slugging. The Hillary Clinton Soap Opera is just draining energy that we need elsewhere. I am really beginning to believe that anyone in the Clinton camp who won't give it up now doesn't really care what happens to this country. I'm sorry but I think you have to be really deluded or really selfish to keep this going.

[RainDog]

3. exactly.

it's like being on a relay team in an olympic race. the team captain gets to run the final leg. but she wanted to get to do it so she tries to trip him the last few meters, grab the baton and pretend she ran it all.

instead of great acclaim, she becomes the pariah of the party.

and we all lose.

[Stinky The Clown]

4. She's not the pariah of the party

Close to 50% of Dems favored her candidacy.

Her pariahship is the province of a small number at the other margins

[Raven]

5. She will be if she keeps this up and we lose in November. n/t

[Stinky The Clown]

7. If we lose in November, about half will blame her and about half will blame him ...............

......... more or less ...............

[K Gardner]

6. K and freakin R - now if only DU would catch up with the rest of the world.

[Stinky The Clown]

8. DU is actually ahead on that score ......

The Obama people have outshouted and outinsulted the Clinton people. There are only a very few holdouts from the Clinton camp still contesting here.

[RainDog]

9. Read the article about the way in which the Clintons have alienated superdelegates

The Clintons have made many enemies with their take-no-prisoners power plays. Now that they are not going to win, ppl aren't as afraid to go up against them.

I suppose we'll just have to see how many dead-enders left before the convention. With the gotv drives all over the nation via the Obama campaign, those now in power may not have all the power they think they have when votes are counted.

And the point is this: there is no way she can win if she abides by the committee rules she agreed to going in. She keeps trying to change the rules to suit her. That's the relay race. She can't win, so she wants to play spoiler with the Ferraro voter?

All the more reason for me to hit the streets and get out the vote with people ready to work together for change.

[RainDog]

10. Obama has opened up a 14 point lead as of yesterday

gallup poll showing Obama's steadily increasing lead in democratic voters over Hillary Clinton.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6029038&mesg_id=6029170

[Stinky The Clown]

11. What are you talking about?

And to whom are you talking?

You made two replies in this thread that seem apropos of nothing actually in the thread.

[RainDog]

12. you said the party was divided 50/50 and I pointed to 2 articles that showed it's not

pardon but I thought that was fairly clear. I was extending my response. if that is somehow offensive to you, I simply do not know what to say.

[Stinky The Clown]

13. Why do you think I thought it was offensive

Why are *you* so defensive and pugnacious?

I asked you a few clear questions, is all.

You answered them.

Thanks.

[RainDog]

14. usually

when you post a remark on a thread and the OP comes back and disagrees and then you respond to back up your original statement and then the OP asks why you are posting on the thread and what it has to do with the thread when to you it is obvious that the additional posts refute the OP's initial reply --

usually people don't say what you said unless he or she is being snarky.

glad you weren't.

bye.