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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:50 PM
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To Hillary Supporters Looking Toward a Big Day Tomorrow
Obama has won more Delegates, Super Delegates and Add-on Delegates since West Virginia than Clinton will earn from Kentucky tomorrow.

The same will be true for Puerto Rico. This is why it is over.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:51 PM
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1. Democrats need to win PR in the GE.
:rofl:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:51 PM
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2. Please don't post this type of crap.
It is offensive and divisive.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:52 PM
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4. Please, keep your posting opinions to yourself.
Your opinion is offensive.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:13 PM
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42. Yeah, bernie..have you no
couth? :evilgrin:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:52 PM
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5. This is a joke, right? I mean, facts are now "offensive" and "divisive"
give me a break.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:53 PM
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6. Don't forget sexist.
:rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:19 PM
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15. berni is just playing the race card.
:rofl:
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:37 PM
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19. LOL! That's me. Big Fat White Man for Obama!
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:18 PM
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29. How fat?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:22 PM
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31. Fat enough.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:07 PM
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7. Again?
Edited on Mon May-19-08 03:16 PM by TahitiNut


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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:18 PM
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28. unlike everything else posted in GD:P?


:eyes:
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:57 PM
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35. The truth offends you?
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:01 PM
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39. I understand what your saying
and hope most all Obama supporters do and will respect wherever you may be in relation to the candidates position in this race.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 02:52 PM
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3. No President has ever won the White House
without Puerto Rico :rofl:
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:13 PM
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9. No , that's W. Virginia.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:26 PM
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17. No President was ever black before
Guess History is about to be made

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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:41 PM
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21. don't bet on it.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:54 PM
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25. 21. don't bet on it.

Y_NOT?
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:27 PM
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18. Actually, Raygun won in '80, Bush 1 won in '88, Nixon won '68, without WV, and every .............
President beside dubya could have won without it.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:48 PM
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24. Why must you ruin this argument with facts!!
sheesh. ;)
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:21 PM
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32. Facts, facts, facts... that's all us Obama people have...
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:13 PM
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10. Actually, Grover Cleveland did.
;-)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:11 PM
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8. I think Clinton has a big chance to win in Oregon.
As an Oregonian, I believe that they've vastly underestimated the support for Hillary Clinton here. I think she can win Oregon by big margins, and turn this race around.

Clinton supporters- go out and tell everyone you know that Hillary Clinton is going to win in Oregon tomorrow. It's a sure bet!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:14 PM
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11. That's sNarky With a Capital N!
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Blondbostonian Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:14 PM
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12. edit
Edited on Mon May-19-08 03:14 PM by Blondbostonian
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:15 PM
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13. I'd like to believe this
but the in poll after poll she's behind. And with a lot of the vote already in, I don't think there's much chance. In all the polls she trails more among those who have not yet voted than she does among those who have already voted. So, not much chance of catching up.

We'll win in a blow-out in KY tomorrow, but don't look for a positive story out of Oregon.

The media will try it's best to ignore KY and will play up Ore as the decisive contest. They are SO in the tank for Obama, it isn't funny anymore.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:23 PM
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16. The reason they will call it decisive is...

... Obama currently needs to win just 16 delegates to win the majority of elected delegates.

If they reinstate Florida and Michigan delegates as half votes and seat them as-is (which I believe they will) then he would currently need 58 delegates to get that majority, even with him getting ZERO from Michigan.

A massive, West Virginia like loss in Kentucky coupled with a large enough victory in Oregon could win him that 58 tomorrow. In which case Oregon would indeed have been *the* decisive primary.


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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:59 PM
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37. The media can count. To Hillary supporters, this is called
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Buck Rabbit Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:18 PM
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14. True, There are 2 Hillary lawn sings on a house around the corner from me.
And no Obama signs on the other house on that block! Looks like a Clinton landslide here in SE Portland.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:29 PM
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20. LOL!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:20 PM
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30. Yes, Bornaginhooligan -- Hillary will undoubtedly win!
You and I know how much support there is for her here. People in Portland and Eugene are just so HAPPY she voted for that good old war, and we want to thank her! I mean, you can hardly WALK because there are so many Hillary signs all over Oregon!

;)
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:00 PM
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38. Oh yes I hear that too. Surprise win for Hillary in Oregon!!
Hillary's fighting her way back just like she always does!
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:10 PM
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41. Yea, like the Oregon rally where 75,000 showed up for Clinton, and...
just a few hundred for Obama.

Wait -- I have that reversed. Whoops.


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:46 PM
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22. thanks for the lecture
Why do you folks think it's even remotely acceptable to talk down to Clinton supporters like you're some fonts of wisdom?

It's not 'over' until one of these candidates achieves the nomination. Maybe in some corrupt dictatorship holding a facade of an election there would be a victor before the end of the process, but this is supposed to be the greatest democracy on the face of the earth. If we can't have any integrity to complete our own process without declaring a winner, how can we expect other countries to adhere to a full and complete process of elections?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:16 PM
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26. Thank you for the nonsense.
How is pointing out the facts of delegates a "corrupt dictatorship" or a "facade of an election".

The points that I made are strictly facts. I'm sorry Clinton supporters have a hard time dealing with those facts.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:46 PM
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23. not productive.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:17 PM
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27. Is anything Clinton doing Productive?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:52 PM
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33. And, the point of your post is what?
To piss on her supporters' joy at another big win?

Remind me again about that "unity" bullshit that your leader keeps repeating endlessly.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:55 PM
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34. You can't win when you've already lost.
But the meaning of that is probably scrambled
by people that believe that you can also win
a race you never "participated" in.

:crazy:
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:35 PM
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45. Her big win in KY
will put Obama past the 50% mark in pledged delegates. That is good for at least a dozen SDs.

She will in all likelihood net a pledged delegate or two when both contests come to a close, That means she will need a little over 82% of the remaining delegates.

Subtract the dozen or so SD's I mentioned from the mix it's 85%.

Assuming she does amazingly well in SD and MT and manages a tie, she'll need 90% of PR and 90% of the remaining SDs.

I've given her ties in two contests she will likely lose big in, and stopped Obama Super Delegates at 12.

How does she convince the 90% to go with her?
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:58 PM
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36. Oh, dear Lord, let it be Over
It's really time for Hillary to take a well-deserved rest.

Obama needs a rest too, then Obama can start campaigning again at the end of June. We can win this, but not if Billary keeps on tearing up the country and being negative. She has the power to divide people, not unite us.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:07 PM
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40. THE ROAD TO THE WHITE HOUSE GOES THROUGH PUERTO RICO!
Hillaree Cleenton being a home girl, spending her summer months on the Island at her Uncle Jose and Aunt Juanita's Casa, learning the difficult task of playing the castanets, and balancing a basket of fruit on her head, and doing it with panache and style! Everyone in Puerto Rico loves some Hillaree!
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:14 PM
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43. Right, we get it - the "nominee" is about to lose very badly in Kentucky
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:15 PM
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44. The only way Hillary can have a big day tomorrow
is to win BOTH contests with 86% of the vote--that's the only way she can prevent Obama from clinching the delegate lead.

:headbang:
rocknation
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