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Yanez Houston Jordan Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:59 PM
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Obama is 110 delegates from the end (Hillary is 306 away). By tomorrow, 103 more delegates will be
awarded.

No matter how things conclude tomorrow, Obama will be less than 70 delegates away and Hillary will be about 250 delegates away.

Obama will cross the next threshold (a majority of voter-selected delegates) tomorrow. Numerous super delegates have said that this threshold will trigger their support.

Will Obama reach 2025 delegates before the Puerto Rico, Montana, and South Dakota primaries?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:01 PM
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1. 110 is also the number of p-delegates left after tomorrow.
The math is mind-numbingly obvious.
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Yanez Houston Jordan Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:17 PM
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5. 110 isn't the number of pledged delegates left after tomorrow. 189 remain. 103 pledge tomorrow. Only
86 pledged delegates will be left after tomorrow, and Obama will have already won the majority (with 30 or so to spare) even before all the states have voted.

If next week is a good week for Obama's super delegate count (as it almost certainly will be), Obama may reach 2025 before the end of the month.

And if Obama reaches 2025 before the end of the month, the DNC can afford to be as magnanimous as possible with regard to seating the Michigan and Florida delegations selected in violation of the rules which the party and the candidates all agreed upon.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:30 PM
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11. ?
Puerto Rico Primary 63 delegates
Montana Primary 24 delegates
South Dakota Primary 23 delegates

63+24+23= 110

Did I miss something?

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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:59 PM
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14. Those numbers aren't right -- they count SDs
Montana = 16
S Dakota = 15
Puerto Rico = 55
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Yanez Houston Jordan Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:02 PM
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16. I'm just going by 2008 Democratic Convention Watch - http://demconwatch. blogspot.com/
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:31 PM
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26. Your numbers are right
And the links in my sig cross tabulate DCW on the state level. It is 110.

There are only 86 pledged delegates up for grabs after tomorrow though. That is what I was commenting on.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:09 PM
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20. I guess I'll stop referencing this:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:30 PM
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25. I would. It includes supers along with the pledged delegates.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:01 PM
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2. Well the hillbots will start to scream 2209 first.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:02 PM
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3. That's terribly sexist
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:20 PM
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7. Sexist indeed!
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:57 PM
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13. Saxist?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:02 PM
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17. Yessh
Edited on Mon May-19-08 06:03 PM by sniffa
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:46 PM
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29. you shoulda warned me
I just threw up in my mouth a little :puke:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:11 PM
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4. When he garners the majority of pledged delegates tomorrow,
he will call it and appeal to all the superdelegates that pledged to go with the winner of the pledged delegate count to jump on board. The crazier the Clinton camp gets about refusing to concede, the sooner the SDs will shut this down.
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:26 PM
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30. Come on Supers! The Tide Is High
You Are Nothing In The World but Right Now to make us Whole Again. :) :) :)
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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:19 PM
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6. This also means Pelosi and Co. will endorse him after tomorrow too. The floodgates will open farther
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:23 PM
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8. yea it's been real quiet today
Edited on Mon May-19-08 05:25 PM by SoFlaJet
with who, Robert Byrd the only SD to throw his support Obama's way? I think they'll do what they did last week and change the discourse after she wins in Kentucky to take that argument away from the increasingly wacko Clinton campaign claims...

on edit 5 SD's endorsed Obama today and zero for Clinton
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:25 PM
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9. Hope so....NT
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:02 PM
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15. I doubt they will
Not with Michigan and Florida undecided.

Pelosi's quote on the topic:

And, the speaker said again in an interview Friday that was aired today, the decisions of the party’s “super-delegates’’ to the Democratic National Convention should “reflect’’ which candidate has claimed the most pledged delegates in a contest which she believes will end well before the convention in Denver.

And Carters:

"And I think that many super-delegates who have not yet declared their preference have the same feeling that I do, including the Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi. She’s said over and over that whoever gets the most delegates by June 3rd ought to be the nominee.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:27 PM
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10. Those numbers are elitist and sexist.. Shame on you..
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:33 PM
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12. It's no use. The Clinton campaign will move the goal posts and say 2210 delegates are needed.
Hell, they already have. This is going all the way to the convention. Hillary is just too power-hungry to give up now.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:03 PM
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18. Goal posts move...Hoooooo!!!! Lets move it to 2500 delegates, k?
that should take some time to surpass!
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:36 PM
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28. New Clinton tactic: nomination 1800 delegates, 'Price is Right' rules mean Obama loses
Hillary Clinton, come on down!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:04 PM
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19. Glad to hear it. However, let's marvel for a second at just how close this is.
I don't think she's the right fit for VP, but coming this close, Clinton deserves a big say in how this party leads in restoring the country to its rightful place and constitution.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:10 PM
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21. Punching bills through the Senate would be a great way to do that.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:16 PM
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22. I wonder if this is why Obama is in Des Moines tomorrow night!
Edited on Mon May-19-08 06:17 PM by calipendence
And perhaps we can find out if Edwards will be there too?

Perhaps on this night Edwards and his pledged delegates will pledge support to Obama en masse, and put him over the top then. That COULD be the equation, as the number of Edwards delegates still on the fence WOULD do it, and Iowa is where most of them are now!

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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:21 PM
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23. I think there are only 9 Edwards delegates who have not yet committed to Obama. Only 2 of those are
in Iowa (Merci Wolff in Sioux City and David Redlawsk in Iowa City).
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:24 PM
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24. How many SD's are there that haven't declared???
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 06:34 PM
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27. It depends on who's count you use.. here is a link to one that says 184
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:30 PM
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31. Thanks for the link...
I'll sleep easier now. :)
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