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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:19 PM
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Hillary (who accused Obama of using "Rove's Playbook) uses Rove's Playbook"
On 2/23/08 Hillary said:

Enough with the speeches and the big rallies and then using tactics that are right out of Karl Rove's playbook. This is wrong and every Democrat should be outraged."

http://www.postchronicle.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=58&num=132360


And today, Hillary cites Rove and his "tactics" as support for her campaign:

“Just today I found some curious support for that position when one of the TV networks released an analysis done by - of all people - Karl Rove, saying that I was the stronger candidate,” said Clinton. “Somebody go a hold of his analysis and there it is.”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/19/clinton-cites-karl-rove-as-reason-to-stay-in


Hillary Clinton is either a hypocrite, bi-polar, suffering from amnesia, desperate, a sociopath who will do or say anything necessary to win at all costs, any combination of the aforementioned or all of the aforementioned.

Situational Ethics = Clintons'R'Us -- the whole lot of em.

:puke:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:19 PM
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1. just so hypocritical
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:19 PM
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2. She's also changed the metric. Now it's about electoral votes.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:21 PM
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4. from Karl Rove's own playbook
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:21 PM
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5. I truly think she's mentally "off"
Chillingly machiavellian.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:21 PM
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3. Kick, kick kick. Karl Rove Karl Rove Karl Rove.
and recommend.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:22 PM
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6. She IS Karl in a light blue pantsuit.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:25 PM
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11. Now all this place needs is a photoshop of her with Karl's pate and glasses.
Kind of like the "separated at birth" bits.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:37 PM
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13. !
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:22 PM
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7. Good stuff. n/t
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:22 PM
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8. Yes, but you have to understand
The "rules" she plays by are for her, made up by her, and can be changed at any time whatsoever. What is "bad" for someone else to do, is completely fine if she does it.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:24 PM
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9. Gee, shades of her husband, eh?
And I used to so respect that family. Wish I could take my GE votes back. :(
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:25 PM
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10. You get to be an old woman, dog tired, worn out, so you don't know what you're saying.
Wasn't that what Billy told us a month ago?

Maybe she needs to sleep it off and regain control of her faculties.

Because she has fucking lost her mind and the vote of this former backer and booster and voter for her.

FUCK KKKKARL ROVE and a POX ON ANY WHO ENDORSE OR EMBRACE THAT SLIMEFUCKER.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:28 PM
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12. Goddamn, that's exactly how I feel!!
With nowhere to vent the rage but here... and so, in the famous words of Dr. Dean....

AAAARRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:44 PM
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14. Who is Hillary?
Is she that former presidential candidate? Bless her heart.

Remember how competitive of a race it was?
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:56 PM
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15. lol. n/t
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:46 AM
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17. Apparently she still running for president.
What's up with that? :shrug:
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:04 AM
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16. hillary bends with the politcal winds.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:47 AM
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18. Citing Karl Rove is just the latest in the long series of discoveries about Hillary
Discovery 1.
Pledges mean nothing (Everyone knows these votes won't count)

Discovery 2.
No Loyalty to Party ( elevates McCain over Obama)

Discovery 3.
No sense of boundaries (elevates McCain over Obama)

Discovery 4
No planning skills (her whole campaign)

Discovery 5
No fiscal skills (her whole campaign)

Discovery 6
Obvious jealousy (enough with the big rallies)

Discovery 7
Oblivious to intra-party courtesy (mocks Obama and Supporters - "The skies will open . . .etc.)

Discovery 8
Delusional (Bosnia)

Discovery 9
Incapable of admitting error (Bosnia - "That's what happened!" when questioned)

Discovery 10
Attempts to split Party consciously by working demographics (hard working . . .)

Discovery 11
No sense of self (can't "find voice", morphs between Hawk, Experienced Insider/Worker, Populist)

Discovery 12
No sense of math or logic (her numbers don't work, can't work, won't work. She has to upend the table with the checkers board on it)

Discovery 13
No sense of irony (quotes Karl Rove, master distorter of all that is despicable, as a verifier of her campaign)


And, unfortunately, the discoveries just keep coming. There seems to be literally NOTHING that she and Bill won't do or say to win a nomination that they have lost. They lost it. Lost. it. Lost . . . it. Lost. Lost. Lost. Legitimately. Under the guidelines of the entire Democratic Party. Her campaign lost. No redrawing of maps, no grousing about caucuses, no unlimited bsing by Terry MacAuliffe, no pandering to anyone anywhere is going to change that.

After tonight, there will be literally NOTHING for her to gain and everything for Dems as a whole to lose. But, will that cause her to exhibit some dignity and withdraw? I doubt it.

I have no words to describe how incredibly far both Clintons have fallen in my estimation and regard.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:52 AM
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19. Funny how much free press we like to give Rove.
Isn't it?

Before you know it... the GOP will be talking about the "Axelrod playbook."

Rove. Axelrod. Two sides of the same coin....
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:58 AM
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22. Karl Rove should NEVER be compared to a Democrat. Or quoted by one.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:15 AM
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27. Never?
Never say never.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:16 AM
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28. Never say never.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:54 AM
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Noting that Karl Rove
agrees with her numbers isn't using a Rove tactic. It's noting that he agrees with her assessment of things.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:54 AM
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20. Noting that Karl Rove
agrees with her numbers isn't using a Rove tactic. It's noting that he agrees with her assessment of things.
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:57 AM
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21. It's too bad she wouldn't take a page from...
Howard Dean's playbook. When he knew he had no chance at the nom, he announced he would no longer actively persue the nomination, but would leave his name on the ballot for the people he promised a 50 state campaign.

He was a class act then and remains so to this day.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:59 AM
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23. I'd love to do an ad, but she is a waste of time at this point
It's way beyond over, Hillary.

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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:59 AM
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24. It's called desperation and it's actually very sick! n/t
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:15 AM
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25. Accusing Obama of using Rove's playbook while she used Rove's playbook is part of Rove's playbook
Got that?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:17 AM
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26. Olbermann played the clip last night of Clinton bringing that up
And the delusional "supporters" there actually applauded Karl Rove! I was stunned.
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