"A typical male"??!!! Who is sexist now?

[mckeown1128]

Anyone else catch that insult Ferraro slung at Obama and men in general.

Before all the Hillary supporters start smugly posting "what about Obama's typical white person" posts... there is a difference. Obama said "typical white person" not as an insult but in order to have a positive larger conversation about race. Ferraro was using "typical male" as an argument tool to belittle Obama and men in general.

What is sad is Clinton supporters will claim not to see a difference. All those who wrongly got upset by Obama saying it... will be ok with Ferraro saying what she said. Hypocracy?...yep. Especially since Obama used "typical" in a correct and respectful fashion and Ferraro used "typical" in a bigot way.

[NJmaverick]

1. She managed to win the daily double, a sexist and a racist

Hard to believe she was once someone I voted for. Clearly the vetting process left something to be desired back then.

[mckeown1128]

5. I'm glad I didn't vote for her.

She ran before I was born :P

[NJmaverick]

12. Well she was a drag on the ticket. Her husband had more skeletons in his closet

it's all they talked about.

[mckeown1128]

28. Interesting, I didn't know that. nt

[NJmaverick]

30. Yeah I think they regretted having her on the ticket

[indie_voter]

13. I voted for her too.

She seemed reasonable back then, but I guess compared to Reagan/Bush that wasn't hard to do...

[Ichingcarpenter]

15. Imagine someone saying 'a typical female'

That would cause rage beyond the pale.


She uses stereotypical branding almost like George Wallace did.
She should make Pat Buchanan proud.



I also voted for her too back then also, but then she started
to reveal her true self that had been hidden to us over the years.

[mamalone]

2. Yep.. I heard that....

:eyes:

[quantass]

3. Yup...Nail on the Head! Thank you for writing this

[ORDem]

9. I had to smile at your misspelling of hypocrisy. It made me think that in HillaryWorld

we don't have a democracy, but instead a hypocracy! Nice.
:rofl:
:dem:

[dkf]

4. She practically personifies the angry feminist from the over 60 generation.

And she doesn't seem to have made much out of being the first female VP candidate. She seems to have wasted it in fact. What had she been up to before she popped up spouting all this dislike of men anyway?

[quantass]

6. +1

Why is she so pissed at ALL men...wow! The anger...if she had a gas chamber she'd use it on all men without hesitation

[Forrest Greene]

24. Trying To Figure Out How To Get Attention

Looks like she made it.

[TexasObserver]

7. considering how sorry her husband was, it's no wonder she has such notions

Of course, what kind of man is going to put with her? Not anyone of intelligence or personality, that's for sure.

[mcctatas]

8. Not to mention...

Ferraro broke the covenant of silence. No one is ever supposed to disclose what we women really think of men! We may have to repossess her ovaries for this;)

[BlooInBloo]

10. I'm not gonna go in for the "reverse sexism" thing - especially not when it's just typical...

"battle of the sexes" stuff.

The bottom line remains: She can't name one sexist thing Obama has done. That's all that really matters.

[mckeown1128]

16. Normally it wouldn't bother me...

But given the fact that she was trying to blast Obama for sexism... it was highly inappropriate. He is "terribly sexist" because he makes a Jay-Z shoulder brush reference...but she in the process she insults him by making negative typical male references.

[BlooInBloo]

20. It's enough that she has not a single example of Obama being sexist....

It's icing on top that she's so old and out of it that she thinks brushing off dirt is sexist. Keep shoving the young voters to us!

[Lerkfish]

11. Ferraro is irrelevant.

I'm just sayin.

[BeyondGeography]

14. What a hammerhead she is...You can't tell Geraldine ANYTHING

especially if you're the typical male...

[marions ghost]

17. STFU Geraldine

you're not helping Hillary. You're not helping yourself. You are not helping the cause of women.

Just goes to show women can be washed-up arrogant gasbags just like men.

[Yotun]

18. Here's what I posted in another thread:

Geraldine Ferraro (2:20): "I responded with, 'Ah, TYPICAL MALE, doesn't know the difference between 15 minutes and 2 hours'...".

Excuse me? 'Typical Male'?!?!?! Can you imagine if Obama said Hillary is a 'typical female' who doesn't know the difference between being really attacked and not, the response from Ferraro? Typical male, and especially the context in which it was used, is the only sexist remark I've seen in this campaign, and it shows Ferraro's preconceptions and biases. Here's the truth- these hardcore pseudo-feminists are like the most close-minded religious fundamentalists. For them its a girl or nothing. And like one of the idiots over at Rapture Ready who's so possesses with his wacky view of the world, that everything that happens is spun into a sign of the end times, these people interpret everything in their heads so that its an attack on Hillary. That's why Ferraro sees the dusting off the dirt thing as sexist. She doesn't know what it means or where it comes from- but instead of trying to understand it and its context, she immediately interprets it in a way that fits her world-view, where the world is a battle between male and female.

Its a psychological thing. We see things that support our worldview and dismiss things or explanations of things that don't. It doesn't matter if its not logical. Since attacking Hillary is sexist and against their pseudo-feminist ideology, then Obama, who has defeated her, is sexist, and all negative attacks on him fit his character. See a Hillary supporter accuse Obama of being a naive, inexperienced, neophyte who's going to be crushed by the Republicans when they start their attack machine, and with the same breath accuse him of being an expert, Chigaco-style, sleazy politician, who is capable of fooling half the nation with his politicking, with a terribly efficient machine in the worst kind of politics. Does it matter that the two views contradict each other? No, of course not, even when its the same person who believes both views. The fact is, they don't have any 'real' image of senator Obama and what he represents based on facts and evidence. They merely adopt a negative image that fits whatever attack comes up in their head.

What's Ferraro telling us here? That basically, whenever somebody attacks Hillary, or is in any way not completely positive, or points out hypocricy or character flaws in her, they are sexist, not correct. Thus one cannot be completely correct unless one is completely positive towards Hillary- and if you're always positive, you might as well give her the nomination. Basically Ferraro tells us we must coronate Hillary because she is a girl.

Hillary supporters talk about being respectful to Hillary and her supporters because Obama will need them in the election. What would happen if an Obama surrogate went out and directly and openly accused Hillary and her supporters of being racist. Obama supporters have been called a cult, naive, elititists, people who'll be fooled by a Chigaco politician, and everything you can imagine, merely because they didn't go along and coronate the queen.

And as an aside- I don't remember seeing that much press attention for the guy selling Obama T-shirts with a monkey and banana, so Ferraro can take her crap about the media being more sypathetic to racism than sexism elsewhere.

BTW, LOVED the way Rachel was looking at her.

[crankychatter]

19. Obama was referring to his own beloved grandmother

He is White. She is White.

My daughter is like Obama. Half African American...raised by a White guy. Her brother's were white. Her Dad is white. Her family car was white. Poor baby, even her god danged kitty cat was White. She's White. Last time I saw her she said "What's up, my Crackah?" She's funny too. She can say any thing she wants to. It's ok with me.

Obama can say any goddamn thing he wants to, too, in that way.

He has the creds. I don't get the outrage about his comments.

Ferarro hates men. That's obvious.

This is apples and oranges.

[ecstatic]

21. What a sad sad bigot she is. Why TF didn't Rachel & Meredith rip her a new one?!

[CanisCrocinus]

23. Because she wouldn't let them

get a word in. She has the politician's knack of talking over objections and changing the question in the middle of her answer so there's no followup. And Maddow, to her credit, was showing extreme respect by not getting too much in her face. But the effect of that segment was all-Ferraro, all-the-time, with punctuation marks by Rachel Maddow.

[TheZug]

22. It's okay for her to say those things--it's the "language of the oppressed."

Funny how the same people who shrug off a remark like that are outraged by the things Wright says.

[lumberjack_jeff]

25. Sooo.... this is the first time you've heard a woman say that?

It annoys me whenever I hear it - forty-plus years now.

'Fraid I can't scare up any more outrage over it now than I could when my mom, my sisters, my teachers, my co-workers, my wife or my fellow DU'ers said it.

The main difference between "typical white person" and "typical man" is that the person who said the latter isn't running for anything.

[Buzz Clik]

26. Ignore Ferraro. She's trying to rekindle her 15 minutes of fame.

[reflection]

27. No, she's trying to cut the nominee off at the knees.

Pathetic.

[Independent-Voter]

29. Typical Hillary supporter. I'm not surprised in the least.

[2rth2pwr]

31. "Obama used "typical" in a correct and respectful fashion.." No one called you on this,

very curious.

[mckeown1128]

32. Well as a male and as a white person....

I can tell you that Obama's statement was correct and respectful. Ferraro's statement was insulting.