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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:08 PM
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Barack Obama's Best Choice for VP: Joe Biden
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-littman/barack-obamas-best-choice_b_102625.html


A few weeks ago, with Pennsylvania Primary Fever, I suggested that Barack Obama choose Ed Rendell as his running mate. My logic was that Obama should choose someone from the Hillary camp to bring the warring factions together. I like Ed Rendell; but the fighting between the Obama and Clinton camps is already drawing to an end, and the party is quickly uniting behind Senator Obama.

Some thought the reconciliation would not occur until the Democratic Convention, at the earliest. But the party leaders and many supporters of Senator Clinton's are already racing toward the Obama camp, and there appears to be no need for a dramatic move by Obama to unite his team with the Clinton folks.

Senator Obama will have a united party behind him, regardless of whether he chooses one of his Hillary's supporters. So, whom then should he choose as his running mate? Does he go with geography (Dukakis chose Bentsen hoping to win Texas), does he add to the "Change" message (Clinton picked Gore to contrast their youth and newness with George H.W. Bush), or does he pick the person who would best help him navigate Congress and the world stage, in order to help him accomplish his enormous goals?

Let me give away my choice right now: Obama should choose Joe Biden as his running mate. I say this not because I was Senator Biden's speechwriter, but because Senator Biden would be the best vice president for a President Obama.

Why?

He's accomplished: If the party's nominee was chosen on the basis of resume, Joe Biden would have been promoted to the presidency. His long career is filled with indelible achievements. He dragged the Senate into the modern era with his landmark Violence Against Women Act; he led the charge to stop genocide in Bosnia; he made our country safer with his program that put 100,000 more cops on the beat.

He's well-rounded: He has led the Senate Committees on the Judiciary and Foreign Relations.

He's no-nonsense. He calls bullshit when it's bullshit, as he did last week when the president made his ill-advised and poorly received remarks in Israel. He is unafraid; this is a man who suffered two brain aneurysms and suffered the unspeakable tragedy of his wife and child's death in a car accident.

He is a man of the people: Senator Biden is not wealthy, never has been. He is a working man. He takes the train to work every morning, and then he takes it home again every night. He relates to the people because he's one of them, and when you watch him campaign, you can see that the people relate to him. His wife, Jill, is a teacher. He has an extremely close-knit family.

He understands the world we live in today: he knows Iraq as well as, if not better, than any political figure in the United States. He's traveled there several times. He has a plan for victory and a plan to bring out troops home safely.

His first priority is our veterans: You will never -- never -- see our returning troops treated as miserably as they have been under Bush-Cheney if Biden is VP. I believe he'd personally clean up Walter Reed if he had to, and he'd relish the opportunity to expand the GI Bill so that our veterans can get a college education.

He is probably the second best speaker in the Senate: second to Senator Obama. Between the two of these guys, we'd be a long way from the oratorical horrors of the Bush-Cheney years.

Now, you may look at this and say, that's all well and good, but Joe Biden -- can he help Obama win?

I'm glad you asked, because the answer is a resounding "yes." Biden would be a huge asset with the white working class voter, a vote which went overwhelmingly Republican in 2004. He is also an outstanding debater, as evidenced by the Democratic Party primary debates. Remember his line about Rudy Giuliani -- "There's only three things he mentions in a sentence. A noun, a verb, and 9/11." He would shred the Republican VP choice. His experience will go a long way toward making people comfortable with Senator Obama's youth.

There are excellent candidates for Senator Obama to consider for VP. I've seen articles and watched TV personalities talk about Jim Webb, Ted Strickland, Wesley Clark, Chuck Hagel, Mike Bloomberg, Bill Richardson and Kathleen Sebalius. There are pluses and minuses to all of them.

But if Senator Obama wants to pick the best person to help him get his agenda through the Congress; if he wants to pick the person who is not afraid to take on the Republican attack machine; if he wants to pick the person who has the background that shows he can do the job, then he should pick Senator Joe Biden as his running mate.

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:10 PM
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1. not in my book.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:11 PM
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4. Why Do You Say That?
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:53 AM
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26. for myself, i dont care for biden.
for the ticket, i dont think he strengthens it
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:39 AM
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30. Mind offering an explanation?
Many of us believe Biden would make a tremendous Vice President.

If you would kindly offer the dissenting view instead of threadcrapping, I would be much obliged.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:11 PM
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2. I like him far better than Webb
Webb seems to be auditioning (almost begging) for the VP slot, and thats a little too ambitious for me at this stage.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:16 PM
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9. Yeah, I'm not feeling Webb
I like him but something just doesn't click correctly that makes me feel confident about him. Normally I'd write 6 paragraphs to explore this feeling but I don't want to come off like I'm trashing him in any way.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:13 PM
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22. I Like Webb Too, But I Don't Think He Would Help The Ticket...
Too little time in government and that little dustup about women in the military.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:34 AM
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28. My problem with Webb, who I like alot, is that he too is inexperienced.
While we all think that is a good thing, I can see where voters would have a problem with that.

I think Webb one day will run for President.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:11 PM
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3. "huge asset with the white working class voter" - why? Just asking.
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KOBUK Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:13 PM
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5. I agree. nm*
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:13 PM
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6. He could do a lot worse.
Biden has a lot of experience and ability.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:22 PM
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16. And with all that experience and ability he gave Junior a blank check and voted for the IWR. n/t
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:14 PM
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7. Smokin' Joe.
Safest bet.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:16 PM
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8. Biden would be awesome as VP
and ready to step in should the worst happen. He knows foreign policy blindfolded.

Clark and Webb would also be excellent choices, and I'd be enthusiastic for any of them.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:16 PM
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10. I like Joe Biden a lot. He'd stick it to the GOP
I doubt he's in the talks though.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:17 PM
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11. I love Joe Biden, but sorry...don't think so...
It'll be either Hillary or someoen like Webb, IMO.

Whoever Obama picks...I can't imagine it being someone I don't like.
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PlanetBev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:19 PM
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12. On the same page as you, Jim
Joe would rip 'em several new orifices...(orifie?)
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:19 PM
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14. orificeeses?
As long as he rips 'em! Go Joe!
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:19 PM
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13. Yes, he'd be a terrific choice.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:20 PM
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15. It sounds great but...
Biden doesn't want the job. He's come out and said so many times. He wants to stay right where he is.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:30 PM
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20. Over the weekend he said
that although it wasn't his dream to be VP, if your party asks you and feels you could help out, you can't just blow that off. He might not want that personally, but would do what he thinks would be best for our Party.

He ALSO said he didn't think he'd be offered the position, so maybe he knows something? :shrug:

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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:26 PM
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17. Sorry, can agree 90%, but that last 10% is the poison pill...
Edited on Tue May-20-08 05:27 PM by tokenlib
And although I understand he has to support his homestate industry--the credit card industry... His support of the Bankruptcy Reform legislation is too much. It was a relief act for the long suffering and oppressed lenders and banks. Every major consumer group in the country opposed it. It was mean-spirited and evil to those economically vulnerable who need a hand up--not a slam across the face.

Lastly--you can't attack Hillary for her support of the legislation (the one she voted for--but was glad when it didn't pass)--and then put Biden on the ticket without being inconsistant.

Now I know some of you don't see this as a major problem--even in the midst of recession. So we'll have to agree to disagree.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:29 PM
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19. He also never saw a gun-control bill he didn't like. Gun-control is such a winner.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:26 PM
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18. You bring up a good point --
about Biden helping him get his agenda through Congress. He knows these people well, and has done very well working across the aisle.

Personally, I don't like the idea of him as VP because I feel that would reign him in some, but I agree he would appeal to a wide range of voters - Dems and Reps, and knows the Senate inside and out.

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 05:30 PM
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21. I loves me some Joe!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:09 AM
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23. Does it for me. Obama/Biden 2008
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:44 AM
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24. I like Biden...Perhaps he could be Secretary of State if not VP.nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:37 AM
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29. I agree that he would be an awesome SoS, and that's where his talents would be best utilized.
I still think he would be a great fit for Obama as veep.
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:50 AM
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25. I like Biden a lot
As you showed in the OP he does a lot of great work and has tons of experience. That being said he would not provide much help geographically or culturally, yes he is a white Catholic but he is also from a small northeastern state. He is also a little old and it would be nice to have somebody ready to take over for Obama after his 8 years.

I don't think he would be a bad choice but I think there are some better ones. He is an invaluable senator for the Democratic Party and I hope to see him on the campaign trail many times advocating for Obama in the GE.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:32 AM
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27. Biden would give Obama what he needs.
Please hear me out, before you get pissed.


One thing about Obama is that he comes off a little too cool, a little too aloof.

In this back and forth with McCain, Obama is saying all the right things, but his elocution is all wrong. He isn't forceful enough with his words.

Biden will take care of that for him.
Biden will cut thru the BS and Biden has NO problem sounding forceful.
Biden will do the dirty work for Obama.

What Obama needs in a Veep is not someone who will bring voters out to vote. Obama does a great job of that on his own....(except in the deep south). What Obama needs is someone outspoken to take on the rw smear machine.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:48 AM
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31. Biden is definately an In Your Face campaigner
but I don't think he fits the mold of "Change" that is the driving force behind the Obama campaign. I think someone like a Sen. Sherrod Brown from a swing state like Ohio, or Gov. Sebelius of KS better fits the idea of bringing "Change" to Washington. While I would support an Obama/Biden ticket, I'd much prefer to see an Obama/Brown or Obama/Sebelius ticket. I want CHANGE, not change, but CHANGE.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:49 AM
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32. Barack at the top will be the change agent.
Joe behind him makes him pundit-proof.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:50 AM
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33. Biden is kind of old.
And more of an establishment anti-change candidate given how long he's been in Washington. I wouldn't be upset if he were picked, but he's not my first choice.
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:34 PM
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41. Biden has been a change agent, ahead of the curve consistently. he commutes home toDE everyday
on the train...

still think he's "establsihment?" Read the op's posts about Bidens change-making accomplishments.
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dsomuah Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:50 AM
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34. I like either Bill Richardson or Sam Nunn
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:52 AM
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35. No
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OneSelf Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:53 AM
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36. I fully support Biden as Veep!
Obama/Biden just rolls off the tongue.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:54 AM
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37. I agree.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:57 AM
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38. Biden recently questioned Obama's pledge to meet with foreign "enemies"...
without "preconditions". (Obviously we all know that Obama has called for "preparations" before such meetings would take place)

It's mostly RW rags who are reporting it, so I won't post the links unless asked, but this is certainly something that would need to be clarified. But still, it could be a weakness on the ticket that the Republicans could exploit.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:25 PM
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39. I saw that article. It was a total lie.
In fact, I emailed that link to Biden's office.
Biden spent days, went on several news shows, defending Obama.
How that rw paper said that Biden was questioning Obama was beyond me.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:34 PM
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40. Thanks for the clarification.
I thought it was odd, but never heard anything more about it so I wasn't sure what to think.
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