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Wed May-21-08 06:20 AM
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Clinton has something to prove: She owes it to the party to |
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try to bring it together. Sure she has the right to stay in until the last vote is cast. After that, she needs to do drop out and do a 180. Instead of the divisive charges she's thrown out about sexism, and how 'certain' voters won't vote for Obama, she needs to speak out firmly on how dems need to unify behind him. Instead of selective language about how she's won the popular vote- something that is demonstrably untrue, and hints about how Obama didn't legitimately win because of FL and MI, she needs to speak say it was a hard fought but fair election and Obama won it fair and square.
If she doesn't do the above, she'll prove something that a lot of Obama supporters have been saying- she's only in it for herself and she doesn't care about dems winning the White House in November if she's not the nominee. To date, I haven't bought that, but the critical moment is approaching when Clinton has to show that she really is a team player who places the party above her own personal ambitions.
Hillary needs to get out after the primaries end. There's no excuse for her staying in after Obama gets the requisite number of delegates- and he's almost there.
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Wed May-21-08 06:26 AM
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1. I don't have a problem with everyone voting |
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But her venom on the campaign trail has to cease or it needs to be leveled sqaurely at McCain.
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Wed May-21-08 06:28 AM
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3. She's toned in down in recent days a little. |
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She better not ratchet it up and she damn well better accept the RBC ruling.
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Wed May-21-08 06:30 AM
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This BS about the popular vote is damaging. She's trying to create the perception that the nomination is being stolen by superdelegates or that it's not legitimate. Either will be used to hurt us, probably down ticket more than anything.
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Wed May-21-08 06:38 AM
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5. Exactly! She's trying to rack up the popular vote by continuing to run. |
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I don't care if she stays in until the last vote is counted, but I do think that is why, especially when you consider all the debt she's in.
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Wed May-21-08 06:51 AM
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9. She is firing up her base-- Those White, no high school wonders from KY WV et al |
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Unfortunately as the exit polls show, these mental giants are going to vote for McFail in Nov.
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Wed May-21-08 03:39 PM
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16. One would think they'd vote their interests. Oh, wait.... |
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Wed May-21-08 06:28 AM
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2. I haven't seen any signs of unification, just more of the same with |
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the added twist of Hillary math.
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Wed May-21-08 06:44 AM
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8. I'm speaking about what she needs to do in the near future. |
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Wed May-21-08 06:39 AM
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Wed May-21-08 06:43 AM
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7. Hey cali, I'll rec yours if you rec mine!!! |
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Wed May-21-08 06:53 AM
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10. She's proving to be a self-absorbed idiot |
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with few exceptions, any other politician would have rallied behind the leading candidate by now. Hillary is proving nothing. What a fat head.
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Wed May-21-08 07:56 AM
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11. that's it in a nutshell |
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"the critical moment is approaching"....yes
She's already past the Classy Concession mark and the Party Pariah mark is coming up...soon
I just can't get over this. I see no real advantages even for Hillary in dragging this out past this point. She's losing support right and left. Her campaign is damaging Obama to a certain extent. It's bizarre and bordering on pathological.
Why?
I'm not sure we know the real reasons. :shrug:
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Wed May-21-08 08:04 AM
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12. I once heard it reported... |
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...that her game plan was to finish the primaries and then enter into discussions with unpledged Super Delegates making her best case for why they should support her for the nomination. It was said that phase should take less than a week. I think you should give her that amount of slack. If one works on an assumption that Hillary is sending a message to both her core supporters AND the history books that the first very serious woman candidate for President gave it everything she had, was tough enough to see this all the way through and play her hand as well as possible until the final cards were dealt, that would be the final act. By June 10th I think this thing should be wrapped up tight.
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Wed May-21-08 08:07 AM
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13. If SDs haven't endorsed Obama in the numbers he needs by June 3 |
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a week is fine. If, however, they have put him over the top, I fail to see the point.
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I don't really have much hope for that happening. Just go by recent history-does anyone remember either of the Clintons giving two shits about what was happening down here in 2000 or in Ohio in '04? They will be hard at work positioning themselves for another failed run at it in 2012
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Wed May-21-08 03:41 PM
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17. She proclaimed she will take it to the convention |
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thus handing the presidency to John McCain.
As far as I'm concenred, she is now the ENEMY, moreso than McCain.
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