She was clearly shaken up in her speech today. Could it be Obama already said no

[ecstatic]

to her request for VP? And maybe that is the reason why she is now adamant about going to the convention?

Seriously, her eyes looked red and watery...like she had been crying or was about to cry.



Notice, her family looking on with nervous concern.

[tridim]

1. You might want to post a warning in your subject

My reaction to her image is quickly approaching BushCo levels. :scared:

[WeDidIt]

4. I am to a point with her

where I think my loathing of her is now greater than my loathing of Bush.

[monmouth]

14. I'm with you, at least he's sort of an entertaining clown at a child's party...n/t

[PoliticalAmazon]

36. Yep. I'm with you. n/t

[Raine]

42. Same here

I never thought it would be possible that I have such disgust for the Clintons but I do. x(

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[Evergreen Emerald]

51. Really? Bush is not as dangerous as Clinton?

DU has lost it.

[Straight Shooter]

52. Bookmark this thread, Evergreen Emerald. It's a keeper.

We have gone through the looking glass.

[chimpymustgo]

74. We have. DU is officially INSANE.

[cali]

78. Completely lost it.

Oddly, we agree.

[still_one]

50. They have succeeded in making me change channels when she is on

or walk out of the room, same thing I do when bush comes on

I am not proud of it, but that is the way I feel

[Tarheel_Dem]

86. I know exactly what you mean. I love Keith, but he runs entirely too

much footage her Bush & Hillary for my taste. I find myself turning away in disgust, or leaving the room. I never thought a Clinton would have that effect on me, but I can't stand to look at any of them now.

[Arugula Latte]

59. My first thought, exactly. I experienced a sharp pang of revulsion when that photo came up.

I can't even post my true thoughts about her anymore ...

[Raine]

66. Same here...

if I expressed my true feelings my post would be deleted or worse. :hide:

[LiberalArkie]

2. Could it be that they are just very TIRED?

[PoliticalAmazon]

37. Going to introduce a concept here, and please don't yell.....

Could she have mania related to diet pills or uppers?

Candidates take drugs to get through the election process. Hillary's wide-eyed "just-been-goosed" stare is, IMO, evidence of this.

Do you think she has gone manic because of overindulgence in speed?

Her grandiose ideations, not in touch with what is really possible, bizarre statements, personality changes...

Let me just say that I grew up in the 50s and 60s. After WWII, during which many women had held important jobs, the jobs were suddenly needed for returning GIs. Women used meds to keep them placated.

In our neighborhood, you could always tell who was on diet pills because they would scrub the outside of their house once a week or so.

So do you think that Hillary is really insane now, possibly related to extended use of uppers of some kind?

[Mimosa]

39. Amazon, you're partly right

Today's pills -such as Provigil and Stratera- are different and very much doctor prescribed but they will wear a person out. I don't think they can make you crazy. But the trial of taking a pill to slip and a couple of pills to keep will affect one's temperament and judgment.

I noticed Hillary is 'losing it' lately too. It must be hard to be 58 or 59 (?) and going trough the grueling schedule.

[KittyWampus]

47. you may very well have a valid point. And well stated. Not inflammatory. It'd be an interesting OP

[ecstatic]

55. OP about HRC hooked on diet pills?

:popcorn: Interesting indeed.

[nomorewhopper]

77. i certainly wouldn't doubt it

its probably just the botox though.

she also has a tendency to pop her bugeyes when she's lying, or giving a fake "HELLO!!!!" type of statement

[Poll_Blind]

53. Interesting angle. n/t

PB

[DU9598]

3. They just look exhausted

And they have every right to be exhausted for fighting a good fight. I do wish she would concede and get back to her Senate duties, but she has earned the right to continue on as long as her rhetoric is not damaging to the party and Obama.

[Overseas]

22. I think she's tired too and that her rhetoric is damaging

I don't like the critiques of tired photos or film. She looks good for campaigning so hard. But the campaign tactics she and her team have used have already tarnished the Democratic party's "big tent" image.

[Deja Q]

5. Wow, Chelsea is gorgeous.

Hillary looks genuinely stunned.

Bill looks exhausted, embarrassed, and/or angry.

The people behind Bill look disconcerted... apprehensive?

[quantass]

12. You can't possibly be a guy......no way

[ecstatic]

30. hehe nt

[Doityourself]

17. You really think so? She looks like Bill with long hair!

[ej510]

19. I agree. Chelsea is not gorgeous. But she seems like a good person.

So maybe she is gorgeous in other ways.

[Doityourself]

26. Yeah, Perhaps she's nice, down to earth and frriendly..which is also gorgeous

[ecstatic]

31. I saw a video clip of her speaking. She was very impressive. Hillary's best

achievement.

[greguganus]

45. She looks like she has a serious overbite. If so, her hedgefund job should have dental insurance.nt

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[FreeState]

69. There is nothing wrong with being gay - quit using it as a negative. n/t

[hendo]

71. I agree

there is nothing at all wrong with it, some of my best friends are gay.

[mkultra]

79. chelsea is hot.

[nichomachus]

6. I think it's just that there is no one

in a position to say, "Hillary, it's over. Go home." Everyone needs someone in their life like that -- all the more when you're in a race like this. There has to be one person who can grab your arm and say "OK -- no" like when you're looking at the Spandex bike suit, while you're on your way to a Weight Watchers meeting.

[Myrina]

7. That should be Bill's job ...

... and for the life of me I can't figure out why he's still so delusional at this late stage in the game.


:shrug:

[nichomachus]

10. And that's what scares me about Bill

It's as if he's on a quest too -- and that makes me suspicious that he sees this as a chance to get a third term.

And it's also why Obama shouldn't even think about naming Hillary as VP. He's only have Hillary and Bill sitting in the VP's office plotting against him -- on his dime.

[Independent-Voter]

85. Bill's looking to bang more WH interns his daughter's age. Of course he wants back in there!

[charlie]

23. He can't

Whatever privileges he had as truth-telling consligieri went out the window a decade ago.

Can you imagine? Honey, I'm sorry I embarassed you in our homestate, then made you a national laughingstock. But, you've gotta trust me on this. Your lifelong dream, the one you've just poured a year of blood, tears, and fire into? It's over.

The recriminations and resentment for fucking up everything good in her life would be white hot. He has to throw everything he's got into helping her.

Not to say that he isn't as deluded as she is, though. Maybe he is, but he has no other choice.

[Raine]

44. I think after the way Bill humiliated Hillary with Monica

he's desperate to get her into the Whitehouse. Bill promised her that for her staying with him during that fiasco. Hillary not leaving him saved his Presidency.

[iconicgnom]

57. Just so long as she doesn't win and do him a quid pro quo

At which a point a compare/contrast of the different media and public reactions would be a sociologist's dream.
Believe it, the reactions would be different.

[goclark]

25. LOL ~ now that is funny. nt

[Citizen_Penn]

8. She looks insane

has so for months now.

Is perception reality? Or reality perceived?

She's nuts, IMO.

[WCGreen]

9. Supreme Court opening....

That's what see was looking for I bet...

[nichomachus]

11. I hope, for her sake, not

Maybe a month ago, a lot of people would have gladly supported that decision. But now they have reason to question her judgment. She may have blown a seat on the Supreme Court -- and jeopardized her Senate seat too.

[kenny blankenship]

48. Ok by normal people standards she's batshit insane - but is she any worse than Scalia?

With any luck they would take each other out.

[Lucky 13]

21. She failed the fucking DC Bar exam

no thanks. pass.

[truebrit71]

89. Do you think Scalia, Alito, Roberts or Coke-Pube could pass it now?

Not with the lack of knowledge they have displayed up to this point...

Trust me, I'd rather have her there than in the WH or the Senate floor...at least that way her vote can no longer be bought...

[JVS]

24. The Republicans would never allow it. If you think that any of them can face their supporters...

and say that they didn't have a reason to "Bork" her, you're not being realistic.

You can't put politicians on the court, you gotta dig up some loyal wonk who has spent his or her life building a resume and not having people know who they are.

[Cha]

13. She makes me so fucking sick..take

her lies and warmongering pandering shit and to over to mcccain's fucking facsist party.

[TexasObserver]

16. They should have chosen the GOP, because that's who they are.

The Clinton Clan, that is.

Obama will say nice things, but he will not put her on the ticket. She's completely delusional if she still thinks he will put her sorry ass on the ticket, after all she's done to hurt him and this party. She's psycho.

[goclark]

27. I think she wants to be on the McCain ticket

This way she can take her marbles over to McCain and say the Democrats were mean to her.


The lady has needs that can't be met. :crazy:

[TexasObserver]

28. Yes, she'd love to be McCain's VP.

More likely she ascends to the presidency as his VP than as Obama's.

[Raine]

46. Seriously I think she would

accept it if McCain offered it to her. :-(

[goclark]

58. He may have already asked her

and the deal was to destroy the Democratic Party firsr.

He doesn't even have to campaign now. She is campaigning for him.

It is just sick.

Isn't there a set of rules for candidates or can they out and out campaign against the party?

[WinkyDink]

64. Idiotic.

[Mimosa]

40. True, Tex! They would have improved the Repub Party.

The Clintons are DINOs. I think they started out Dem and are actually 'liberal Republicans.'

[Cali_Democrat]

18. Good. I hope she is suffering on the inside

The woman has no heart so I'm not sure that's even possible, but the thought of it makes me happy :D

[zulchzulu]

20. Delusional psychopaths always look tired and harried

It should come as no surprise...

[TheDonkey]

29. A complete fraud. She makes me sick.

[nenagh]

32. Does she always wear false eyelashes?

Anxious that one falsie may pop off during the speech..

[ecstatic]

67. It looks like a bunch of eyeliner

and mascara to me. :shrug:

[DearAbby]

33. She just looks tired...

wishful thinking on the part of the OP trying to read the minds of people in a photograph. I don't believe Obama would outright tell her no, maybe say "You are on a short list for Vice President"

[Arkansas Granny]

35. I've looked at both pictures and I don't see what you seem to want to see.

[my3boyz]

38. I hope she cries herself to sleep for the rest of her life. I hope she knows

how many dems will hate her if it is her fault that we lose. I can't stand her sorry multiple personality ass! She can go to hell!

[Kahuna]

41. Hillary says: "Oh no you did'int,

:rofl:

[Auntie Bush]

43. I thinks her eyes look wide eyed and pretty.

I wish I had such pretty blue eyes especially after campaigning all those hours and the grueling travel.

You are being paranoid about Chelsea and Bill...they look proud to me.

This post is just another example of how people just look for something to criticize regarding Hillary. Try again! On second thought...don't bother!

[ecstatic]

56. I heard they were colored contacts but that's becoming hard

to believe. Nobody is that diligent with putting contacts in every day!

Anyway, the video footage shows what I'm talking about more clearly.

[mamalone]

62. I absolutely agree with you.

When I saw the video, I thought that her eyes looked really odd. She looked odd... I can't really describe it, but almost like she was on autopilot. Charging ahead at full speed, terrified but committed to keep going anyway.

I know that probably sounds melodramatic, but that's what I thought... even before seeing this thread.
I said this in another post, but I'll say it again... the woman needs an intervention. For the love of humanity, there must be someone who cares enough about her to bring her back to reality. She is doing things now that she'll be paying for for the rest of her life. Why won't anyone step up and do what needs to be done????

[NorthernSpy]

75. old photos show her with light brown/hazel eyes...

Hillary's eyes are not naturally blue.


So yeah, it could be that her contacts were bothering her, rather than her feeling emotionally upset.


:shrug:

[woolldog]

82. She wears colored contacts.

Her real eye color isn't blue, not that matters, but fyi.

[AtomicKitten]

49. We will not be bamboozled by the SS Clinton. Not this time. Not this election.

[Arugula Latte]

60. It's the Hillary Death Cab.

You think the driver is on your side, and then she rolls up the windows, locks you in, and speeds off with you to some horrible end...

[AtomicKitten]

61. I wonder if she realizes the spectacle she is making of herself.

I hope someday the Clintons realize their demise was self-inflicted.

[Arugula Latte]

63. Sadly, I doubt they ever will.

They are infallible in their own minds.

[Hansel]

54. I think that he has not only told her no, but I think she knows who

his running mate is going to be. That is why she is obsessively trying to prove that she can win white working class voters.

[glitternotgold]

65. this woman is embarrassing

this is sad. someone get norma desmond off the stage. what hillary is doing to herself is a damage she will not overcome in this lifetime. even those defending her knows that she needs men in white coats right about now. sad.

[SoFlaJet]

88. just as long as Obama

isn't William Holden

[oviedodem]

68. Firstly, If she asked now Obama has every right to say I am not ready

to make a choice here, and got through all candidates.

I think that is what happened which is why she is going to try and force this at the convention.

[workinclasszero]

70. McCain prolly turned her down too.

And that would really hurt Hillary.

I don't see evidence of tears myself. Insanity maybe but no tears.:crazy:

[OzarkDem]

72. She looks fine

[DeschutesRiver]

73. If my husband

acted like Bill, and told the american public "hey, I agree, my wife is a loser. But if you want a woman, how about my daughter - and remember, I will be there too", I'd be a bit teary. Instead of saying, I will be at her side in 2016 (and she'd still be younger than McCain), again, Bill Clinton has tossed the old lady over for a younger version. Her own daughter (who compared to momma, has zero political talent or ambition).

It was as disgusting a thing to say as his Monica crap was to watch.

[merh]

87. Did he really do that?

:wow:

Have you got a link?

[DeschutesRiver]

92. Oops, didn't mean to mislead - it is what I feel he implied

by offering someone as clearly unqualified at this point in time as his daughter Chelsea as a candidate for 2016. Why not say Hillary will make an awesome candidate in 2016 - maybe this just wasn't the moment, and we can't wait for her to run again? What does it say about his thoughts on his wife's abilities, if he figures a kid with absolutely nothing to offer but a name could be enough of a possibility for him to mention it out loud to reporters? Esp. while his wife is still technically running and having to make a hard decision about exiting this race, this is simply unforgivable. To me, it implies that he feels his wife is a loser now, and he is thinking ahead to the next possibility to latch himself onto - his kid. Support for his wife the candidate doesn't include mentioning that the next Clinton to run in 2016 should be Chelsea, not Hillary. If you think your wife is a talented winner, how come you say IN PUBLIC that the likely next one would be the younger, completely unqualified version?

Any references to Chelsea running for Pres at ANY time shouldn't be made at such a tough time for his wife. Let me be clear - I don't like Hillary, I think really bad things about her lack of character and abilities - watching her has made me anti-Hillary, in fact. But damn, a husband making this kind of comment when his wife is having a downslide moment like this? Giving up a run at the presidency? Something you already got to do, and apparently Bill hasn't the sensitivity to understand what she is going through in a public forum no less? This is probably the only thing that has happened to this woman since Monica that actually makes me feel bad for her. Even knowing it is completely her fault for sticking with him - if she is qualified to run for president on her own merits, she should have ditched Bill years ago, and made a complete independent name for herself.

He is an unmitigated dickhead, and on second thought, I wouldn't be teary. I'd be angry beyond measure, and no matter how wierd their home situation is behind the scenes, just for this "unity" moment, I hope she is giving him hell on this.

[Lady-Damai]

76. Um...She looks fine to me.

:boring:

[Cha]

81. Well, if you'd wake the fuck up ..you'd

see she's not so fine.

[Lady-Damai]

83. Lmao........

:rofl:


She always looks like that....

[mkultra]

80. what speech? Link?

[ecstatic]

91. The speech she gave yesterday in Boca Rotan in which

she threw Obama and Democrats under the bus.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

84. You'd think we were on Free Republic - listening to people commenting on Hillary/Chelsea's looks...

It's bad enough to be picking apart women's appearances - but then to demean them - truely sickening.

Whoever said that there's very little difference between the far right and the far left was telling the truth.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

90. She looks fine to me, especially considering that she's probably been campaigning nonstop.

May I look so good at 60 with no sleep. I think I look worse now!