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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 04:07 PM
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I for one didn't vote in the Florida Primary---
and it was my way of telling the Florida repuke legislature to fuck off. If I would have known that one of the candidates would try and circumvent the rule about early primaries, I would have voted.

But of course at the time, nobody was raising a stink about it because a certain candidate thought the nomination was in the bag.

I think if they would have done a do-over, the numbers would be a bit different.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 04:08 PM
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1. I believe a lot of people didn't vote because they were told the votes wouldn't count.
How is that a legitimate election.
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Spangle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 04:18 PM
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3. sounds like a normal florida election to me.
<shrug>

But I voted. I figured I would at least send a message to the rest of the states, whose vote would count. And I realized way back then, that it was always a possiblity that our votes might be allowed to count. But I wasn't think of a tie breaker or anything like that. I didn't think our votes would be needed.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 04:34 PM
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10. It HAS to be, Hillary did well. Count it or there will be tantrums and blackmail
She cares every that every vote is counted UNLESS it is meant for somebody else, cast in a caucus, or otherwise doesn't benefit Hillary. :grr:

And what has she done, during her Senate tenure, to protect ALL votes cast on those questionable machines?

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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 04:18 PM
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2. But weren't there other issues on the ballot?
Or do you just mean, you didn't vote for the presidential primary, but voted for other things?

We had a primary in Washington after the caucus that didn't count (and it was the only issue) but I went and voted again anyway.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 04:27 PM
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7. If you owned a home, yes.
But it didn't apply to those that rent.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 04:21 PM
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4. I voted in the FL primary for the same reason.
My business partner and I went to the polling place together and we were complaining about the thing the whole time. The polling place was nearly empty and we were saying at the time, gee, I hope they don't change their minds about this thing not counting because it was obvious that it wouldn't be accurate.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 04:23 PM
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5. There were public service commercials telling people to vote, John Kerry is the only
one who went on tv and told everyone it wasn't going to count.

So you're problem for not voting. You got no say now.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 04:24 PM
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6. I voted- for Edwards
But I also had to vote against the property tax amendment.

I bet if the election were held today, Hillary would lose. A lot of people have buyers remorse.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 04:30 PM
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8. My elderly in-laws voted in it. They had no idea that it wouldn't
count. Seems like a lot of uninformed voters did go vote. And a lot of informed voters did NOT vote in that portion of the ballot or just didn't go at all.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 04:32 PM
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9. Well
a record number of people DID vote. Is there any reason to believe that supporters of one candidate were more likely to sit it out than supporters of any other candidate?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 04:35 PM
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11. There was reason to beleive that it did not matter.
I beleive in this rule in a big way and I thought Hillary did as well. I was wrong.
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Henryman Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:09 PM
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12. Well...
...imagine the record number of people who would have voted if it had been a legitimate campaign. And the reason to believe that the numbers would have come out differently is that Obama has increased his margins about 20% in almost every state he has campaigned in. According to your logic, we should have had every state primary election last January with no campaigning. Is that an election?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:31 PM
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13. You should have voted because your state constituion was being amended.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:33 PM
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14. Neither my husband NOR I votred in the FL primary...
we were registered independent, and didn't bother registering as a democrat since the vote didn't count anyways...

In March, during a runoff (local) election...both of us switched to the Democratic party, and would both vote for Obama if we had the chance...
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:37 PM
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15. Then you live and die by your own decision.
There should never be an excuse for one to voluntarily sit home for an election in this country. Never.

You forfeited your vote by your ignorance.

I exercised my right to vote that day. You didn't. I'm sorry, but you made your bed and now you are going to have to lie in it.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:37 PM
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16. thats what they told us about the primary part
of the WA vote so we were told not to mail it in. I and many other did anyway not trusting Hillary and now she says see he didn't win popular votes by much here, but it was all because like you we were told it would mean nothing.

the whole thing gets me sooo mad.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:39 PM
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17. There's Not One Reason To Believe That Those That Didn't Vote Had A Bias Towards Any Given Candidate
Therefore, there's no reason to believe that if those that stayed home had gone, that the split would've been much different than it was. And when you have a record turnout and 1.7 million voting, that's more than enough of a sample size to predict how the others that stayed home would've voted.

For sure some stayed home, but there's no reason to believe they wouldn't have been equally split in ratio towards any given candidate. But many went, and more than enough went, and the results were quite clear.
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:41 PM
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18. Wasn't HRC arguing previously
that it was about the delegates, that ultimately delegates can do whatever they want? SO she was expecting even the pledged delegates to switch to her? If pledged delegates can switch, then the nomination isn't really determined by "popular vote."
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:45 PM
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19. I didn't for either, Trumad. and I am spitting pissed about it now.
We were told it would not count. I know a lot of first time registered voters, young people, who would have voted and the results would have been way different. I HATE being held hostage by a candidate who seems to be trying to throw the dem possibilty of winning this election in hopes of running in 2012.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:21 PM
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20. Revotes were offered in both states. Obama turned them down.
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