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Wed May-21-08 06:45 PM
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Why are so many people flipping out? Does no one listen to Obama??? |
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Why the hell are so many people flipping out??? Does no one actually listen to what the fuck Obama is saying? You claim you support him and trust him, but your actions tell otherwise.
Quit making shit up... Listen to Obama... he is right. We are fine. Quit helping the GOP by furthering this crock of shit!
Show me one time where Obama said we're in trouble if Hillary doesn't drop out now!
Show me one time where Obama said we can't heal the party because Hillary won't drop out now!
What a fucking crock of shit! Either support Obama or STFU... no, you don't have to, but that's my opinion.
My opinion is Obama's opinion. What's yours?
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Wed May-21-08 06:47 PM
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1. The Mob rules. Give up. |
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look here if you don't believe me: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6061693So much for the myth of the Obama Mob being "Real Democrats," supporting the Democratic Party they claim Clinton is destroying. What a crock of shit. VIVA ANARCHY!
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Wed May-21-08 06:48 PM
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4. I'm well versed in the mob around here |
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Wed May-21-08 06:51 PM
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14. 'You are ignoring the author of this thread' |
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Wed May-21-08 06:54 PM
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Uh uh! You can't be!
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Wed May-21-08 06:55 PM
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Nothing will come up for that link!
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Wed May-21-08 06:58 PM
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DOH! DUH!!!
I thought you had ME on ignore! LOL!
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Wed May-21-08 06:59 PM
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Wed May-21-08 06:48 PM
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2. desire to slime hillary clinton supercedes demands from the chosen one nt |
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Wed May-21-08 06:49 PM
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Wed May-21-08 06:50 PM
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12. Isn't that the freakiest thing since Bush's 28%? |
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They still think there were WMD and that Saddam orchestrated 9/11! Even after Bush told them different!
"We" are no smarter than the Republicans... that makes DU Freeperville II... JJJJJEEEEEEBBBBBUUUUUUUSSSSSSS help us!
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Thu May-22-08 03:18 PM
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62. I suspect there's a lot of overlap. |
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Wed May-21-08 06:54 PM
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she sure acts like she's begging for that kind of attention, but no.... I don't think any Dem really desires to "slime" Hillary the delusional "One".
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Wed May-21-08 06:56 PM
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Thu May-22-08 12:54 PM
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61. Wait, so I guess they're not the koolaid drinkers you thought then? |
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Be careful, don't undermine your premise.
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Wed May-21-08 06:48 PM
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I agree with you. People are flipping out over silly rumors. Though decidely, your opinion is not his. He's not telling people to shut the fuck up.
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Wed May-21-08 06:50 PM
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Wed May-21-08 06:53 PM
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18. That's twice in as many days... the end is near! LOL! |
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No, Obama isn't telling people to STFU... I'll bet you he'd like to though. And if you'll notice, I qualified that statement.
But honestly, he has tried to squelch this bullshit in his own way by speaking out on behalf of Hillary.
Everyone needs to seriously start listening to him, in earnest!
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Wed May-21-08 06:49 PM
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Clinton is only damaging herself and her reputation at this point.
Obama, the brilliant and the cool-calm-collected, is absolutely right: Hillary can run as long as she wants to, even if she's self destructing by doing so.
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Wed May-21-08 07:20 PM
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42. He does have amazing cool |
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I hope he can keep it up... it's going to be a bumpy ride!
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Wed May-21-08 06:49 PM
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7. My opinion is that everyone can see through your amateur attempts at manipulation. |
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Wed May-21-08 06:52 PM
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manipulating what?
It's a good question. K&R
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Wed May-21-08 07:22 PM
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43. hehe! I was waiting for a snappy comeback... |
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I guess not, huh?
I'm finding it easier and easier to find agreement with many I've argued with for months... healing isn't that hard. I'm convinced.
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Wed May-21-08 06:56 PM
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In other words, you are one of the screaming meme's...
:rofl:
I'm not trying to manipulate anyone... I'm just trying to draw attention to Obama's statements on this subject. You should try listening to him... and believing him.
Not my fault if you don't believe him.
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Wed May-21-08 06:49 PM
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8. Maybe because they've never been through a primary before? nt |
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Wed May-21-08 07:05 PM
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36. That could very well be! |
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I'm sure many have, but perhaps they never paid close attention... this one is very important!
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Wed May-21-08 06:50 PM
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11. "Your opinion is Obama's opinion" |
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Does that mean you dicate what he believes, or does that mean that you have completely given up all pretense to free will and independent thought?
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Wed May-21-08 06:57 PM
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You will try anything to justify your hubris toward Hillary!
You are not listening... to Obama or to me. Where the fuck did I say his opinion is mine? No. I said mine is his... I believe him. I pity you... clearly you don't believe him.
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Thu May-22-08 08:47 AM
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56. I am meely quoting back your own words |
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Specifically, the last line in your OP: My opinion is Obama's opinion. What's yours? That your words make you look like either a megalomaniac or a thoughtless sheep is not my fault.
All I am trying to do is show the dangers of fanaticism. And as I have stated on many occasions, I despise both candidates. There is a reason why I am supporting Ralph Wiggam until after a candidate has been formally nominated.
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Wed May-21-08 06:51 PM
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Wed May-21-08 06:52 PM
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16. He can't tell her to get out the race, obviously |
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HRC is exploiting his kindness. Doesn't make her actions right.
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Wed May-21-08 06:59 PM
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31. This isn't about her actions, it's about Obama's |
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Either you believe him and support him in this, or you don't.
Simple, really.
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Wed May-21-08 06:52 PM
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17. Clinton is not someone to trust, she would break her word in 1 second. I support Obama, |
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I do not support Clinton and her mania to get into power. She is twisted.
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Wed May-21-08 07:00 PM
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32. This isn't about supporting Clinton |
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It's about believing and trusting Obama.
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Wed May-21-08 06:55 PM
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21. I call them "panic monkeys". They live in panic mode. Probably don't get out much. |
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I'd guess there's a high correlation between how worried people act on line and how much direct sunshine they recieve in the course of a week.
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Wed May-21-08 07:09 PM
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40. Born, raised, and still living... |
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In sunny So Cal... I get plenty:) Funny, my b/f is from Seattle, but has lived here for nearly five years now. He is SOOOOO LA! He'd have a hard time adjusting to the rainy Seattle life now.
He's still a worry wart:) Not as bad as these peeps though! Sheesh.
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Wed May-21-08 06:55 PM
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23. Obama has been playing the end game extremely well of late |
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We are about to trust this guy with the keys to the White House, and pretty much everyone agrees that his campaign for President has been amazingly effective. Obama knows exactly what he is doing regarding the conclusion of this nomination battle. It's impressive, and supporters should try not to undermine those efforts.
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Wed May-21-08 07:02 PM
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33. Very well said... eom |
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Wed May-21-08 07:07 PM
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38. You are right.. Obama also said we should be nice to Hillary's supporters so I am trying. |
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Edited on Wed May-21-08 07:08 PM by TBF
I still think it's fair to question some of their tactics and statements. But I know Obama is right.
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Wed May-21-08 06:55 PM
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24. Proving that for many Obama is just a blank slate upon which they project their own opinion. |
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They have no idea who Obama is nor do they really care. It is only important that he is a projection of themselves , even if it is imaginary. Sigh. I am almost sorry for Obama.
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Wed May-21-08 07:03 PM
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He seems like a stand up guy... phony support wouldn't set well with him I'm betting.
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Wed May-21-08 06:56 PM
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Barely any movement by the Super Delegates. We were all bitching and going crazy. Than Hillary opened her mouth and over played her hand and the floodgates opened.
Everytime Hillary talks another Super Delegate gets its wings to Obama.
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Wed May-21-08 07:05 PM
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37. Look, if you're not willing to admit that Clinton... |
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...secretly drinks virgin blood, then you're not a real Democrat.;)
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Wed May-21-08 07:09 PM
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39. Obama does not speak for me 100 percent of the time. |
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I am not some damn fanboy
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Wed May-21-08 07:11 PM
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41. Nor does he speak for me... |
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But as the Democratic nominee apparent, I feel we as Democrats should support him and follow his lead.
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Wed May-21-08 07:23 PM
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44. I dont know how much longer I will call myself a democrat |
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Depends on Pelosi but I have NO will to keep up the bullshit till McCain wins after launching a blitz after the convention.
If Pelosi will not show courage at this critical hour then I am out.
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Wed May-21-08 07:25 PM
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45. It's the DNC's coddling of Hillary that has Dem voters at the boiling point. n/t |
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Wed May-21-08 07:30 PM
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46. All the more reason to look to Obama for answers |
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He is firm in what he says. Never wavering.
They aren't coddling her... they are following the rules. There is no rule that says she must drop out... none. Obama knows that, and has responded accordingly. And I applaud him for his wisdom, and his cool.
It's our choice... look to him as our leader, follow his lead, or fall victim to the bullshit. Our choice.
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Wed May-21-08 07:30 PM
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47. There are things a candidate can't say; |
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doesn't mean he isn't thinking them. However, I do trust him to know what he's doing.
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Wed May-21-08 07:37 PM
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48. Some here hate Clinton more than they support Obama |
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It wouldn't matter what he said or did. They get their jollies out of smearing the other candidate, her husband, her daughter and her supporters. They do not recognize the harm they do nor do I think they care.
I think they will leave once the nomination is settled.
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Thu May-22-08 12:51 PM
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60. I most certainly hate CLinton more than I support Obama. I certainly don't feel "jolly" |
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Edited on Thu May-22-08 12:52 PM by burythehatchet
The harm that I might do is incomparable to the harm Hillary has done to herself and to the party. I will be right here when the nom is settled.
Don't quit your day job.
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Wed May-21-08 07:37 PM
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49. I've read 47 posts. Looks like #1 said it all. |
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:banghead:
The OP makes sense to me.
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Wed May-21-08 07:53 PM
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50. My opinion is my opinion. |
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When did you give up your brain?
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Wed May-21-08 07:55 PM
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51. My opinion is that you are cool, Juniperx |
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Thanks for the reminder. *hug*
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Wed May-21-08 07:59 PM
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52. Just because we have concerns, |
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and recall what happened the last two times this was taken to the Convention,
does NOT mean we don't support Obama! That's my opinion.
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Wed May-21-08 08:05 PM
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53. I will kick this, not too well spoken OP but the sentiment is appreciated |
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Wed May-21-08 09:06 PM
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54. My opinion is my own. |
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and I support Obama.
GOP Hillary and Bill should drag their sorry asses back here to NY, to the welcoming boos they deserve. She can finish going through the motions of playing at senator. While he closes his office in Harlem (if it hasn't been trashed already).
Then they could both fly off to some foreign countries to make a few more million telling their campaign whoopers.
I'll STFU when they GTFO.
I strongly support Obama but my opinion and actions are my own.
I do understand where you're coming from but I don't agree and don't think we're fine. I won't think we're fine until she is stopped AND no longer has the mic.
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Wed May-21-08 09:33 PM
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55. Be glad we are in the virtual world and not the real world. |
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Be very, very glad.
This is classic mob mentality. This is sickness. True sickness. I can't believe what I'm seeing. I can't believe that these are my fellow party members.
This is disturbing behavior, to say the very least.
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Thu May-22-08 12:34 PM
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57. I care more about what Obama does in the general and if/when elected |
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Edited on Thu May-22-08 12:36 PM by autorank
Hillary is over. He can unite the party. It's a much different thing if the Republicans play the race card. Clinton had some deniability (not convincing)but if the Republicans/as the Republicans do that, it's curtains for them.
I won't follow Obama like a bot and I won't STFU about issues. That's why we want people elected.
I worry about Zbig Brzezinski as his foreign policy adviser. The man is brilliant but warlike in his own venues and the Old Politics to the max. I want to see a foreign policy I can respect as much as I respect Ron Paul's foreign policy regarding foreign intervention. We have 800 military installations around the world, including 60 full fledged bases. That's absurd. Does Obama want to keep those, stay on that path?
Obama's health plan stinks ... market based competition using the web. Please, that's crap.
I think Obama is very bright, my main reason for interest and support. If he crosses the line, which he will presumably. I want to support him enthusiastically on substantive issues.
So you can ask for lockstep loyalty but many of us who care about issues will be loyal Democrats but intellectually honest and ask the hard questions.
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Thu May-22-08 12:39 PM
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58. I'm with you on this. I think people lack serious faith in thieir candidate. |
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I have stood behind him from the beginning and watched what he's accomplished in such a short time. I have no reason in the world to doubt that he can't hand McCain's ass to him. The media is a fickle thing. It forgets what it said even a week ago. This will be over in June and the focus will be on two candidates.
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Thu May-22-08 12:39 PM
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59. I think for myself. And just because Obama is publicly gracious doesn't mean he thinks all's well. |
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Thu May-22-08 03:24 PM
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63. What exactly are you putting your faith in??? |
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I've read The Obama's statements, speeches, etc. - And I can't tell you who the hell this man is - SERIOUSLY.
I've never heard anyone so adept at playing all sides cloaked in flowery rhetoric - truly a blank screen. Step back people, there is certainly cause for concern.
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Thu May-22-08 03:34 PM
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64. Ah, hell. You're right. |
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It's the forest and trees. Obama has consistently showed confidence and calm. I just hope that he is right on this one, as well as you.
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