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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:51 AM
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"Clinton Supporter Invokes JFK Killing"
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/08/560910.aspx

Clinton supporter Francine Torge, a retired educator from Durham, mentioned his assassination in her introduction of the senator on Monday.

"If you look back, some people have been comparing one of the other candidates to JFK, and he was a wonderful leader," she said. "He gave us a lot of hope. But he was assassinated, and Lyndon Baines Johnson actually did all of his work and got both the Republicans and Democrats to pass those measures."


If anyone believes that this was done without the knowledge and approval of the Clinton campaign staff, then I have some prime oceanfront property in Montana I'd like to discuss...
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:52 AM
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1. Wow.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:52 AM
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2. Rather bizarre and morbid introduction.
Weird.
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:54 AM
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5. her whole campaign has been bizarre and morbid
She ran against Obama like she was a RW'er in the general election. She should have known that if she ran a campaign of attacking every gaffe Obama made that the tables would turn on her at some point.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:53 AM
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3. This stunning comment has been hidden in several subthreads. Glad to see someone made it an OP..
thank you.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:53 AM
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4. the fact is that this reference has been made several times before, and it's not ok to use.
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:54 AM
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6. That's why she can't be the VP.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:54 AM
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7. I remember that when it happened.
When you look back at this long, long primary season, it's kind of stunning what Hillary and her surrogates have gotten away with, isn't it?
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:58 AM
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8. Absolutely amazing
My brother, who lives in Dover, told me about this when it happened, and we were both astonished at the relative lack of coverage from the MSM.

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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:59 AM
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9. Wow, that is really bad
If this is her campaign's idea of using good judgment, I surely don't want Hillary and her camp in the White House.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:59 AM
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10. Hey, wait! That was the comment Hillary made, the one that was the last straw for Teddy Kennedy,
just before he came out for Obama.

He was furious with her for what he saw as unprovoked denigration of his brother's legacy.

This is getting creepier by the hour...
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:00 AM
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11. Hey, wait! That was the comment Hillary made, the one that was the last straw for Teddy Kennedy,
just before he came out for Obama.

He was furious with her for what he saw as unprovoked denigration of his brother's legacy.

This is getting creepier by the hour...
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:02 AM
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12. January 8, five days after Iowa.
They've been running a full-on assassination campaign for nearly five months. :mad:
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:07 AM
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13. to me, the creepier quote
is the one from two days ago when the Vice Chair of the DLC was talking about the dream ticket, and he said that Obama should pick Clinton as his VP, because "she would make a good president if something ever were to happen to him."

But whatever. I was more shocked the first time that I heard her make the RFK reference, so I wasn't really freaked out by the implication when I heard it the second time. I was more offended by her inability to make an appropriate analogy and inability to be truthful about Bill Clinton not having "wrapped up the nomination until June". Plus, her apologies seem to always make me feel less sympathetic to her than I had even originally been. I said to my mom "It was embarassingly tone deaf like many other things she has said lately, but I could see people taking this too far in the criticism." My mom said "You coulnd't possibly understand what it was like back then or why people could be hurt by this comment."

On another note...did anyone see that Tucker Carlson was thinking of running for president on the libertarian ticket, but recently decided not to? Can you imagine the comic gooodness that would have come out of Tucker Carlson running for president?
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MrsT Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:12 AM
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18. Do you have a link to that quote
from the DLC chair?
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:27 AM
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20. it was Sen. Carper
Carper's comment doesn't bother me. It occured during a discussion of an Obama/Clinton ticket. Inherent in any VP discussion is the question of whether the VP is capable of asssuming leadership during a time of crisis. That's fair game. I also know that Tom Carper is a decent and honorable man who isn't prone to hyperbole or brinksmanship.

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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:33 AM
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21. It was from the NY Post, in an article about the Dream Ticket
Edited on Sat May-24-08 11:35 AM by ErinBerin84
When I read it, I was like "I think that I'm being way too paranoid by reading into it, but that kind of comes off as creepy." And I do regard the Post as a RW trash tabloid, so I could see the quote being out of context. When I read it, I just thought "That's kind of a strange way to put it." And then I turned on the tv and saw assasination-gate (which again, I was only kind of offended by because I think it was tone deaf to phrase it like that). Again, I don't really think it was anything more than a "weird way to put it", and I don't neccesarily think he meant it like that. But it still kind of creeped me out when I read it. Plus, the vice chair made other good remarks about the effectiveness of the dream ticket, so it wasn't a standalone quote as much as something that was ironic timing for me personally, because I turned on the tv directly after I read the article.



http://www.nypost.com/seven/05232008/news/nationalnews/groundswell_of_calls_for_o_hill_union_112117.htm
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:07 AM
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14. Planting the assassination meme.
Very very nasty.. but also v e r y effective.

The word assassination and the image of the
Kennedys is now a constant in MSM media.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:08 AM
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15. SHe has gotten so many passes from the MSM because of who she is "The wife of an ex-Pres.
Now she has self imploded with her ugly campaign. Don't let the door of the Dem party hit you on your way out. The repubs will welcome you with open arms!!
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:21 AM
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19. Well if he said it when he was introducing Barack Obama . . .
it would indeed be news.
The point was the remark was made when introducing Senator Clinton -- so almost certainly had been approved by the Clinton campaign.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:33 AM
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22. It's a pattern. There are just too many of these references.
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