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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:49 PM
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Matt Taibbi's excellent new article from Rolling Stone
do yourselves a favor fellow democrats and take 15 minutes or so to read this one


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20830259/the_superdelegates
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:54 PM
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1. Love Matt Taibbi.
thanks for posting ... :D

K&R
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:55 PM
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3. you are welcome...yea he's great AK
and it's worth the read too
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:22 PM
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39. hey SFJ
What a great article! Matt Taibbi is one of my favorite political pundits. I linked to the article in my sig line.

Again, thanks for posting! :D
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:55 PM
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2. K & R!
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:00 PM
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4. DiFi: What the fuck are you doing? People are starting to stare!
:rofl:
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:01 PM
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7. hey Billy is that your pic there
sportin' that 70's porn star 'stache?
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:09 PM
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13. Bwhahaha! That thing is atrocious, eh?
It's a picture from an ID card. They said I looked like one of the weathermen.



I should use a newer, stache-less one. :)
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:15 PM
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14. hey that friggin ID card is expired!!!!!
who let him in here anyway? As a musician I wish I had that much hair though...
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:23 PM
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17. It's expired because we fixed everything down there.
Didn't we? :eyes:
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:27 PM
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19. I'm sure you guys made a better effort
than Bush and Brownie did...damn homo-sexules and their parades
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:16 PM
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38. That cracked me up too.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:01 PM
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5. Hmmm....
"Yeah, my buddies were goofing around a little bit there," he says with a laugh. "It's slowed down some since I declared for Obama — but I still hear from the Clinton campaign, e-mails telling me Obama can't win and so on."


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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:01 PM
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6. "The Clintons are finally done...
They were a big draw for a long time — but I think we're all going to be surprised by just how much and how thoroughly we won't miss them once they're finally gone."
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:02 PM
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8. yea that is a great line BG
a-fucking-men to that sentiment
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:52 PM
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22. Au contraire...not only not miss them but
celebrate their hoistiness on their own Petard.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:12 PM
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30. ...unless they are NOT done,
in which case the era in which the people chose their candidates & final winners is what's over n done.

He has something of a contradiction on his hands - when you describe those you can get snarled in paradoxes as he did. The Clintons are done, or else we are done as a democracy. Bushler's resort to extra-Constitutional, undemocratic casuistry and string pulling to win the White House in 2000 won't be just a one-off freak event in the history of our system if the Clintons succeed now. It will be confirmed as the new normal, and votes will become much less important than the power of those who count the votes. All elections of consequence will go into overtime and be decided by "Rules Committees", Combines, Commissions, Star Chambers and Syndicates.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:03 PM
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9. No more tearful "How can you do this to my mom?" phone calls to superdelegates
Wow! Quite an article! K&R
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:04 PM
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10. An electoral banana republic
That's us, all right :(
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:08 PM
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11. this is another great quote;
While we wait for this process to play itself out, we are as helpless as Chinese citizens waiting for the Politburo to hand them a new premier, or Catholics watching the chimney in St. Peter's Square for word of a new pope.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:54 PM
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24. "Helpless"...that's been us but,
NOT THIS TIME.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:09 PM
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12. "Sometimes," says McGovern
"Sometimes," says McGovern, "the candidate is the last one to know it's over."

Excellent Article
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:19 PM
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15. Aside from the very unfortunate opening line . . . n/t
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:20 PM
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16. This line made me laugh:
no more of a hectoring, red-faced Bill Clinton lecturing us about whatever side of his ass we forgot to kiss that day
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:25 PM
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18. Yeah, that was a keeper too

Here you go




Now read how Bill Clinton helped start the problems with gasoline prices by allowing
Unchecked Refinery Mergers

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3335821
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:59 PM
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26. I'm sorry but isn't
bil clinton looking older than his time? Maybe he's the one who needs the vaca?
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:37 PM
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20. Yep n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:58 PM
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25. Yes, Matt Taibbi's take is priceless and more
than one generation reads it in Rolling STone:)
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:11 PM
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29. LMAO.......I love it!
:rofl:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:48 PM
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21. hilary will be sitting in the Senate doodling "Obama can't win" next year.
"..It's slowed down some since I declared for Obama — but I still hear from the Clinton campaign, e-mails telling me Obama can't win and so on."


"In the end, whatever happens, it's impossible to get around the fact that all of this, really, is the responsibility of one person: Hillary Clinton. We headed irrevocably down this path toward a democratic crisis the moment she decided to stay in the race despite impossible mathematical odds. That is a heavy thing for one person to bring about all by herself, on purpose and with her eyes wide open. The question we all might have to start thinking about soon is Why? What the hell was she thinking? Was she trying to drag us into a Banana Republican coup scenario on purpose? Or is there something even simpler at work?

"Sometimes," says McGovern, "the candidate is the last one to know it's over."

Think there's going to be a lot of analysis of this Democractic primary campaign? How much psychoanalysis of hilary will come down the pike in years to come?


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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:06 PM
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28. "...on purpose and with her eyes wide open."
Strong article.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:27 PM
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34. "Anything could happen" Except
hilary finding a brain.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 04:52 PM
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23. Whoa. Taibbi rawks.
So no more Hillary: no more Rocky references, no more Tom Petty, no more carefully orchestrated leaks of human imperfections mined deep in the anus of Barack Obama's increasingly sullied biography. No more guilt-by-association raps, no more purges of insufficiently ruthless campaign staffers, no more woe-is-me whining about media conspiracies and the "race card" and Florida and Michigan and her empty war chest — no more whining about being outspent, from a candidate who had eight years of White House chips to cash in. No more tearful "How can you do this to my mom?" phone calls to superdelegates from Chelsea Clinton, no more of a hectoring, red-faced Bill Clinton lecturing us about whatever side of his ass we forgot to kiss that day. The Clintons are finally done. They were a big draw for a long time — but I think we're all going to be surprised by just how much and how thoroughly we won't miss them once they're finally gone.


Yowch.

- as
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:03 PM
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27. yea he was bitching last week
about Tom Petty's I won't back DOWWWNNN being played over and over and over again at her rallies...funny he brought it up again this week
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:14 PM
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31. I loved the article
"The Clintons are finally done. They were a big draw for a long time — but I think we're all going to be surprised by just how much and how thoroughly we won't miss them once they're finally gone." :thumbsup:



~and I learned a new word. Approximocracy.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:15 PM
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32. I love me some Matt Taibbi
Thanks -- good read!
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:17 PM
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33. who's your buddy Yael?
SFJ
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:35 PM
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35. ...
:D
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:14 PM
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36. K/R.
:kick:
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:15 PM
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37. how many recs to get to the greatest page?
?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 06:17 PM
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42. Five.



Peace:thumbsup:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:29 PM
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40. K&R. Great article. Thanks for posting.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 12:52 PM
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41. bumping for the Sunday crowd
just in case ya missed it
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sam kane Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 06:34 PM
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43. love him. nt
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