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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:52 PM
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Clinton Pledges Voting Rights to Puerto Rico (and Guam)
Next she'll be promising them all ponies.

Clinton Pledges Voting Rights to Puerto Rico, Too
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/clinton-pledges.html

May 25, 2008

You may recall how Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, stumping for votes in Guam, promised residents of that territory full voting rights. Pressed for details, the Clinton campaign acknowledged this would require amending the Constitution. Saturday in Puerto Rico, Clinton told citizens there, "I believe you should have a vote in picking the president, too," per ABC News' Eloise Harper.

Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, but they do not pay federal income taxes and they do not vote in the presidential election. Their representative to Congress is a Delegate who votes in committee but not on the floor of the House. Giving voting rights to Puerto Ricans to vote in presidential elections would likewise require a Constitutional amendment.


The article goes on: Writing at the History News Network, historian Robert KC Johnson writes:

"Perhaps the Constitution should be amended to allow Puerto Ricans and Guamanians to vote in presidential elections. But Clinton has been in the Senate for eight years, and she doesn’t seem to have raised the issue. There’s something off-putting about a U.S. senator first proposing constitutional amendments a few days before the targets of these amendments go to the polls ...

"It appears as if the Clinton campaign is going to come up short, but perhaps Sen. Clinton can work on these amendments in the next session of Congress. Somehow, however, I doubt that she’ll be as interested in making sure that Guamanians can vote for the presidency if she’s not on the presidential ballot."
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:53 PM
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1. So is she promising to fight for their right to pay federal taxes also?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:54 PM
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2. nah, just voting rights but only if she wins the nomination
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:56 PM
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3. I guess more taxes isn't a great vote getter.....
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:57 PM
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5. I think that's what the real plan is.
That won't go over very well. PR is probably the biggest welfare nation on the planet. The GOP would love to get rid of that cash flow problem.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:17 PM
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18. self delete
Edited on Sun May-25-08 03:17 PM by Submariner
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:22 PM
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24. Shrug....
she could pledge a pot for every chicken and it wouldn't make a difference. She's destroyed herself.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:57 PM
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4. I think she's going to want to amend the constitution ASAP; she wants them to write her in, in Nov.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:57 PM
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6. Beep-beep
More full service pandering!
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:57 PM
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7. PR voting rights is the new gas tax holiday
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:58 PM
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8. unicorns
that can fly :D
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:59 PM
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9. Promises, promises, she knows she'll never keep.
Could she be anymore transparent in her pandering? :eyes:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:04 PM
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10. Terry McAuliffe said today that all 50 states count. Uh, Puerto Rico isn't one of the 50 states.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:06 PM
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11. Puerto Rico
Has been given the chance to become a state several times in the past 2 decades. They have consistently voted it down over the income tax issue. It's probably more complex but Puerto Rico doesn't want to be a state.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:09 PM
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12. Here was Obama's response when a reporter asked him about Clinton's Promise..
"That's something that must be solved as part of the general status problem. If we are sending Puerto Ricans to fight in our wars, they must have more representation in Washington. But, of course, I can't be making promises if we haven't even solved the status issue. Senator Clinton will have to explain to you all how she plans to achieve such things while ignoring a whole process in the Congress."

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:14 PM
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16. maybe it's magic!
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:10 PM
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13. Did she also
promise to have everyones carpets cleaned and a free car wash? :rofl:
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:13 PM
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15. Along with a chicken in every garage and two cars in every pot.
:rofl:
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:12 PM
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14. No Taxation without representation!! When they start paying taxes they get a voice. n/t
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:15 PM
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17. Don't let a little thing like Amending the Constitution stop ya HRC
BTW: can you promise me $1,000,000.00 if I vote for you while your at it
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:28 PM
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19. That is such a dumb statement because, PUERTO RICO decides if that want to become a state on not
Edited on Sun May-25-08 03:29 PM by Heather MC
Most of them don't because they get the benefits of being part of the US without that TAXES

duh!! She is sooooooo stupid
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uberllama42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:57 PM
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20. So what?
She is a shameless panderer. I think we all know that by now.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:58 PM
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21. A non-state holiday?
:think:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:00 PM
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22. but didn't a charter on statehood just fail in recent years?
perhaps that's not what Puerto Ricans want. :eyes:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:01 PM
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23. Now, about those ponies you mentioned, do they stay crunchy in milk?


Pony-Os



And with rainbow horseshoes!!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:51 PM
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25. I won't agree unless Hillary also pledges to strip Florida of its voting rights.
Edited on Sun May-25-08 04:52 PM by anonymous171
Hell, why not kick it out of the Union? Or just sell it back to Spain?
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 05:40 PM
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26. Hillary also made a pledge regarding FL and MI. We all see how that pledge worked out. We all know
Edited on Sun May-25-08 05:40 PM by IsItJustMe
how honest Hillary is. You can trust her about as far as you can spit.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 06:10 PM
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27. Im all about that
Making them a state will give them all the voting rights they could want.
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