The Fat Lady Is Singing.... For All You Sky Is Falling Democrats

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Florida Poll

Quinnipac University Poll-No Link 8-5 to 8-10


Kerry 47%


Bush 41%


Na(d)ir 4%



on edit- Florida is a must win state for Bush....I doubt even a Republican strategist would tell you he can come up with a winning Electoral College scenario without Florida...

[freetobegay]

1. LOL!

Thanks for the pick me up!

[Stephanie]

2. I think Max Cleland had a similar advantage in the polls

right before the all-touchscreen election in GA.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

7. Why do you think that? Link please.

I don't know whether what you 'think' is true or not, but I would like to find out.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. The Poster Is Unfortunately Incorrect

Please do a google search if you don't believe me....


The Saxby Chambliss- Max Cleland race was essentially a pickem race at the end .....

[Stephanie]

link

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0211/S00078.htm

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Georgia Senate

http://www.coxnews.com/newsservice/stories/2002/1107-POLL.html
Pollsters may have goofed in not picking up the Republican surge in Georgia, however, some pollsters said. In the Senate race, for instance, Republican Rep. Saxby Chambliss defeated incumbent Democratic Sen. Max Cleland by a margin of 53 to 46 percent. The Hotline, a political news service, recalled a series of polls Wednesday showing that Chambliss had been ahead in none of them. The closest was the most recent Zogby International poll that had showed Cleland leading 46 to 44 percent, within the plus or minus 4 point margin of error.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/2002-11-03-state-polls-usat_x.htm
In Georgia, an Atlanta Journal-Constitution poll shows Democratic Sen. Max Cleland with a 49%-to-44% lead over Republican Rep. Saxby Chambliss.

Final Result
53 to 46 percent Chambliss

HOW ACCURATE?
Polls had Cleland winning by 2 and 5 points, he lost by 7

POST POLL SWING:
9 to 12 points towards Republican Party

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[Zynx]

14. If an incumbent is below 50%, they are in trouble because undecideds break

against them. However, I also think there might have been some fraud because Barnes lost by nearly the same margin and he was expected to win easily.

[goobergunch]

13. Yeah

It's closer to the Barnes-Perdue (GA-Gov) race's final polls.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. The Poster Cites Three Polls...

There were polls released near the end that showed the race a pickem....


The polls in GA were erratic... Nobody picked Perdue to beat Roy Barnes....


Doctor makes misdiagnoses from time to time... I guess if you get a lump on your breast you should treat it at home...


I'll go out on the proverbial limb... If Kerry has a lead of six percentage points in the lion's share of polls on 11/1 he'll be the next pres....

[Stephanie]

18. The Poster is just Saying

That Kerry can lead in the polls all he wants but Jeb will be running the FL election.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. He Can Only Steal If It's Close...

but with the international monitors and the batteries of Democratic lawyers at every precinct it's going to be difficult....

[Feanorcurufinwe]

25. But, but, but, I could use the news that Kerry is ahead to sow doubt!

Why focus on the positive, when there are so many potential and imaginary negatives to focus on?

Any time a poll shows Kerry is ahead, or there is any other good news,
it is extremely important for everyone's enthusiasm to be dampened by dire predictions of an October surprise, a stolen election, or the imposition of martial law.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. I Think The Stolen Election Problem Is Overblown...

By that I mean the election has to be razor close to steal....

[DemocratSinceBirth]

The Pollsters Nailed Florida In 00

They called it a pickem...


And that's what it was....



A race close enough to steal....



The Florida race was like the proverbial football game that's decided on a bad call... When the Bears pasted the Pats in the 85 Super Bowl 46-10 no bad call was going to change the outcome....

[jpgray]

3. Good news, but I don't get much out of these polls

They're a good ballpark, but it's hard to tell what's really going on until much later on, after the GOP convention and the resettling of things. Plus the whole south of Iraq may be breaking away as we speak.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. I Agree...

but 6% is a nice lead and Gore never had a lead that big in Florida....


Florida is a must win state for Bush...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. I Doubt An Independent Southern Iraq Would Be Good For Bush....

NT

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah...

All the armchair campaign managers at this site... prolly never even ran a campaign for homeroom president...


blah, blah, blah....


yak, yak, yak....



piss, piss, piss


moan, moan, moan

[merh]

16. LOL - I agree with you on the arm chair managers!

Thanks for the post on the polls - it looks good to me! You made my day - hope is always good to share! :hi: thanks :bounce:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. The Only Thing Worse Than False Optimism Is False Pessimism

"Without hope the people perish"

[merh]

23. We can be our own worse enemies

Thanks for this post and all of your optimistic posts.
:toast:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. I Don't Want To Be A Cassandra Or A Pollyanna...

I just want to enjoy a little good news...

[Warren DeMontague]

32. I'm sort of a Cassandryanna, myself.

Who practices Polyandry.

[Toxictoaster]

30. Thank F'n Gawd

for your optimism. I was just thinking today about the incredible pessimism that pervades DU, and most progressive sites, most of the time. Even good news is simply construed as a harbinger of bad--a chance for the right to steal from us.

Kerry's up in the polls, the attacks are mostly rolling off him, Bush looks worse by the day, the upcoming Repub convention has all the makings of a caustic fundamentalist/corporatist phony-fest--let's work hard to bring it home come November, and take nothing for granted. But let's also acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, the Force is guiding our torpedoes right into the Death Star's guts.

Faith is not just for the fundamentalists. Let's have some (though not a blinding, unhealthy dose) in ourselves, our country, our candidate.

AND... Let's not forget about the debates, which could be the KO punch if Kerry goes for the jugular.

[Brotherjohn]

5. And the last FL poll (ARG) had Kerry 50%-Bush 43%.

CONSISTENCY! THAT's what I like to see!!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Quinnipac Is A Better Record Than ARG...

Check out ARG's state polls in 00... They gave Gore nice leads that didn't materialize on election day....

[DemNoir]

9. DU needs

A purge of negative spirts.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. I'm Not Counting My Chicken Before They Hatch....

but I think things are looking pretty good....

[AndyTiedye]

28. We're Not Negative, Merely Cautious

We had actually moved up to cautiously optimistic after the Convention,
but then the "terra alerts" took the wind out of the Dems' sails,
so we're back to "cautious" again.

I'll be optimistic when the Bushes (all of them except the kids),
Cheney, and the whole PNAC gang are safely locked up in:

[jackstraw45]

15. Um...there's something called the GOP CONVENTION in a few weeks

The fat lady may be warming up but she sure as HELL hasn't sung a note.

Bush*, the Dim-Son that he is, WILL get a convention bounce that will make this race mighty close.

Don't kid yourself, it's not over yet.

[Tarheelhombre]

19. IS it true that Gore never had a lead in the FL polls in 2000?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. The Lead Changed Hands In The Final Days

but neither * or Gore had a lead in FL outside the MOE....

[sangh0]

26. Cool

.

[Kilroy003]

27. Are you calling my girlfriend fat?

And that's not singing, she's having an orgasm!

[Warren DeMontague]

31. Edit:

Good news. Hopefully enough people will be paying attn. to Florida to prevent the level of widespread shennanigans we saw last time. Hopefully.

[SeattleRob]

33. Fat lady singing

I think it's too premature for the fat lady to start singing. THere is a lot of time between now and election day. We all have to remain vigilant. When she does sing, her song will be the sweetest music I have ever heard.

[faithnotgreed]

34. amen