Ken Burch
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Tue May-27-08 01:58 AM
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HRC supporters, your opinion on this please |
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Edited on Tue May-27-08 02:00 AM by Ken Burch
If your candidate ever DID become president, how do you think she would treat activists and idealists?
And how would she react to progressive protest movements?
This is a crucial question in terms of how Democrats should feel about a potential nominee.
What do you think her attitude towards progressive dissent would be?
I'm not trying to pick a fight, just asking for your views. This will be my only post in this thread.
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Tue May-27-08 02:04 AM
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Tue May-27-08 02:09 AM
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2. I think the first thing she would do is |
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invade Canada. I think you better build a bomb shelter.
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Tue May-27-08 02:18 AM
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Tue May-27-08 02:10 AM
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3. Pretty much the same as Obama |
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Tue May-27-08 02:21 AM
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7. Jeff Ray from The Guacamole Telegraph,here's my question: |
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Do you prefer pearls or diamonds? :P
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Tue May-27-08 02:25 AM
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It's all about the accessories ya' know. :P I like diamonds if I'm wearing white high heels.
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Tue May-27-08 02:26 AM
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9. You'd think she would speak at an antiwar rally? |
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Cause that's what Obama did.
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Tue May-27-08 02:31 AM
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10. Obama, as a State Senator |
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Pandering to a demographic that allowed him to steal the election from a "friend" of his. You will never see Obama at an antiwar rally now.
So the comparison is bullshit. If you think Obama is going to pander to any activist group .... please send me what ever you're smokin'. I'll even pay for the postage.
:smoke:
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Tue May-27-08 03:08 AM
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11. To correct your facts.... |
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Edited on Tue May-27-08 03:43 AM by FrenchieCat
Obama had been a State Senator for 5 years already in 2002. By the time he left in 2004, he had served for 7 years. In late 2002, Obama was just starting to run for US Senate, in the primary part against 7 opponents. That was a Statewide office.
But go right ahead....don't mind me. I am not a Hillary supporters, and that who should be responding, as that is who the OP was talking to. Sorry.
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Tue May-27-08 11:21 AM
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12. Obama didn't announce his US Senate desires till Jan 2003 |
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He could have been thinkin' bout' running for US Senate for the prior 4 years, but he was still a State Senator when he gave his "speech". As for Obama backing Activists.... even then the first words that came out of his mouth were....
Good afternoon. Let me begin by saying that although this has been billed as an anti-war rally, I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances.
Gotta' get that disclaimer in right up front.
Obama does nothing or says nothing that won't benefit.... Obama.
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Ken Burch
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Tue May-27-08 08:42 PM
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Edited on Tue May-27-08 08:43 PM by Ken Burch
n/t.
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Tue May-27-08 02:15 AM
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4. Didn't seem to have much influence on the NY Senator. Either way. |
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I'm just saying. She has not been my dog since the Iraq vote that she still cannot justify or deny. They will never understand that they've outlasted their welcome as long as a substantial portion of the voters tell them otherwise. The Clintons are prepared to deny and defy the math at all costs.
I hope it costs them big time.
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Tue May-27-08 02:21 AM
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6. she'd be more politically expedient about them |
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Like when she praised and then criticized Move On. He'd be less likely to do something like that, he has a different style, more laidback. Hillary can be abrasive. I know an activist who met with Hill and Bill. She's forceful, to the point that she will even talk trash about Bill behind his back. She doesn't suffer idealists that she disagrees with lightly, for example, when doing her health care reform work, she dismissed and did so with disdain, the idea of single-payer health care. Also in terms of style, she's much more wonky, Obama can play that game, but he's more likely to wax philosophically on stuff.
For the most part, I don't think there would be much difference though. She'd be more likely to aggressively criticize and be expedient about it, but I don't think it would happen all that much.
They both will tolerate dissent. Certain movements they each might try to pick up something from, maybe pander to a movement out of expediency. I don't see a huge difference between them, because the personalities and styles are different, but the basic philosophy is similar.
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Tue May-27-08 11:26 AM
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13. Very much like her husband. |
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Tue May-27-08 11:30 AM
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14. I think she'd make fun of them ... "celestial choirs" |
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Tue May-27-08 11:48 AM
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15. I think she would listen and certainly not hinder free speech |
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I think she would behave like a very good Liberal President.
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Tue May-27-08 08:44 PM
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17. Much better than DUers have been treating the activists asking that the peoples voices |
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need to be heard. May 31st, see you there.
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Tue May-27-08 08:54 PM
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19. It's only the conservative wing of the party that's fighting for the illegitimate FL/MI delegations. |
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All progressive Dems know this was a DLC plot.
Nothing positive comes from carrying on that dishonorable fight. Rules are rules.
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Tue May-27-08 08:44 PM
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18. Appoint them to mid level positions. |
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