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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:39 AM
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Washington Post: No clear path for Hillary's future in politics
I believe this woman has alienated most everyone who once revered and adored the Clintons. Very sad indeed!! :nono:

No Clear Map For Clinton's Political Future
By Shailagh Murray and Paul Kane
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, May 27, 2008; A01

In August 1980, with no hope left of winning the nomination, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy conceded defeat to incumbent Jimmy Carter in the Democratic presidential race.

"For me, a few hours ago, this campaign came to an end," Kennedy said at the Democratic National Convention in New York. "For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

And with that, at age 48, Kennedy returned to the Senate, where he committed himself to a career as a legislator, crafting landmark bills on health care, education and immigration. Many Democrats are now pointing to the Kennedy model as a path for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to reshape her own political career, assuming she is unable to wrest the nomination from Sen. Barack Obama.

"I loved the Senate before I ran for the president," Kennedy explained in an interview before his recent cancer diagnosis. Losing to Carter, he said, made him appreciate the opportunities in Congress all the more. "I think I became a better senator, with greater focus and attention," Kennedy said. But he added: "It all depends on the attitude, what's in the mind of the person."

Clinton, Kennedy continued, must decide where her heart lies. "She's got great capacity -- she was a good senator before, and she can be a great senator in the future," he said. The question, he said, is "what she does with this experience."

When Kennedy returned to Capitol Hill before the 1980 election, the Massachusetts Democrat was in a similar fix. Like Clinton, he was the heir to a powerful political legacy. But the climate was volatile, and voters were in the mood for change. Kennedy was rejected by many of his Senate colleagues, despite Carter's sagging popularity, and he won just 10 primary states. But like Clinton, he hung on until the bitter end.

Yet Kennedy was an 18-year Senate veteran who had already risen to chairman of the Judiciary Committee and a health subcommittee. Clinton faces few options for quick advancement should she give up her presidential bid, prompting some to speculate that she may look elsewhere for a prominent political post, possibly the governorship of New York.

The climate on Capitol Hill has changed considerably in the 18 months since Clinton began her presidential campaign. The Senate leadership path that she had once viewed as a viable alternative is now all but blocked. Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (Nev.) has gained clout in his role, and he will grow even more powerful if Democrats succeed in expanding their narrow majority in November by up to half a dozen seats.

Reid's deputies, Majority Whip Richard J. Durbin (Ill.) and Democratic Caucus Vice Chairman Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), also have enhanced their status in recent months and are quietly laying the groundwork to succeed Reid whenever he decides to step down.

"Within the caucus, there's strong support for Senator Reid, and those who speculate otherwise don't understand the Senate," said Durbin, who was the first senator to endorse Obama. When Clinton returns to her old job, assuming she does not win the nomination, Durbin added, "she will be an important part of the future. But I can't tell you that anyone has approached me, or anyone in the caucus, with any specific suggestions about what she would do."

When Clinton announced her bid in January 2007, she was the prohibitive favorite, and most of her Senate colleagues appeared ready to rally to her side. But as her primary battle with Obama draws to an end, with the senator from Illinois almost certain to emerge the victor, Clinton has discovered that the reservoir of Senate goodwill was not so deep after all.

Clinton collected 13 endorsements from her Senate colleagues, compared with 15 for Obama, and she has not added a name to her list since early February, even though she has won significant contests since then.

"I'm sure she'll remember, for the rest of her life, who was with her and who wasn't," said Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.), who ran unsuccessfully this year and then endorsed Obama.

Speaking on the condition of anonymity, many Democratic senators said they expect Clinton to work doggedly for Obama this summer and fall, and they agreed that if she does, whatever hard feelings that linger from the primary race will vanish.

But a bigger question is whether, like Kennedy, she will shelve her presidential ambitions, especially if Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) wins in November. The 2012 election would coincide with the end of Clinton's second Senate term, effectively turning her into a lame duck. A run for New York governor would hasten Clinton's departure by two years.

But if Obama wins in November, her next likely opportunity for the presidency would be in 2016, when she would be 69. If Clinton makes it clear her future is in the Senate, she could find several paths open to her, aides and colleagues said.

One would be to champion a major piece of legislation, such as the health-care bill Obama has promised early in his first term.

A member of three prominent committees, Clinton remains a junior member on all three panels and does not stand to become a committee chairman for at least another decade.

But another option would be to assume the chairmanship of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, a demanding but high-profile post that is an appointment by Reid. Sen. Robert Menendez (N.J.) is a potential successor to Schumer, who has led the committee for four years, but Democratic sources said Clinton could get the job if she wanted it.

Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (Vt.) pointed to the late Hubert H. Humphrey (D-Minn.) as one example of life in the Senate after a losing White House bid. A senator in the 1950s and '60s, Humphrey became vice president in 1965 and then narrowly lost to Richard M. Nixon in the 1968 presidential election. He won another Senate term in 1970 and returned as the most junior member. "He realized he could command an audience anywhere in the world. He threw himself into the issues. He had the time of his life," Leahy said.

On the other hand, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (Del.) returned to the Senate after his failed 1988 presidential bid and became a formidable voice on both the Judiciary and Foreign Relations committees.

With or without a prominent post, Clinton will possess unrivaled clout, her colleagues said. "She is the single most powerful woman in America, and that will be solidified by this race, not diminished by it," said Biden, who has not endorsed a candidate after dropping his own bid earlier this year.

As the former first lady, Clinton arrived in the Senate in January 2001 already a political celebrity, and her status was acknowledged with an appointed leadership position as head of the Steering Committee, with the task of interacting with outside liberal groups.

But colleagues said Clinton showed no interest in using her perch to work toward more powerful posts inside the Senate. Rather, she spent much of her time traveling the country to help Democrats in presidential battleground states, and raising money through her leadership political action committee, HillPAC. She also committed herself to advancing New York state interests, numerous colleagues and senior aides said.

Regardless of which route she now chooses, colleagues who have run failed campaigns said she must first readjust to life in the Senate.

"When you're out on the campaign, you've got to make decisions every hour, every minute," said Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa). "Then you come back to the Senate and it's like a cocoon."
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:44 AM
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1. One big difference
between Hillary and these other senators who lost and returned to the senate is that none of them ran slash-and-burn campaigns, didn't go out of their way to mock and ridicule young idealistic voters, and didn't grievously offend the African-American community.

Hillary's senate seat is in jeopardy unless she spends the next four years mending fences at home.
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Lady-Damai Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:54 AM
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3. How can we kick her out of the senate?
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:52 AM
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2. "Clear map"? Bullshit! Wanna see some "clear maps....."?
Edited on Tue May-27-08 10:00 AM by suston96
Polls are still showing her way, way ahead of McCain in the electoral vote projections which means that the MSM trolls that have hated her since she started are full of shit.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May27.html

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May27.html

Check these polls daily. They are interactive. For one, check North Carolina. She beats McCain there. Obama loses.

Polls are from real people and not from the professional MSM Hillary haters.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:01 AM
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5. Sorry, that hillary performs marginally better than Obama against McCain in
polls, is meaningless in regard to the dem primary race. And in many states Obama performs better than Hill against McCain. What Hill supporters here can NEVER do is explain how she gets the nomination. They resort to "well, she could get the SDs". And that's highly unlikely.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:45 AM
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10. I really don't care about the primary race anymore....Obama wins it...
I am more concerned about the November election and especially about the congressionals.

The presidency has become a dangerous joke thanks to Bush and Karl Rove. A strong Democratic congress will reign in the bloated and unconstitutional power of a runaway presidency. And don't believe for one second that it will make a difference if a Democrat is that president.

Power corrupts and it has no political party face.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:57 AM
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12. You're seriously concerned that dems could do poorly in Congressional
races in November? If so, you shouldn't be. Dems are leading in Senate races in VA, NH, NM, CO, AK and KY. They are very close in MN and OR. Dems haven't been in this good a shape for decades re congressional races. And the House looks almost as good as the Senate.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:18 AM
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13. Seriously concerned about everything and anything having to do with elections......
I have been through too many of them to ever NOT be seriously concerned about elections.

And people who go around thinking that things are "looking good" often end up being seriously disappointed.


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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:02 PM
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15. If Hillary keeps up her insults of Dem voters, voters may very well...
take it out on the Dems in the House up for reelection.

Bush is a huge liability to the GOP, and Hillary has the potential to be the same.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:56 AM
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4. I'd like to see Durbin as Sen. ML.
Note: It's funny to see Obama labeled "the most liberal senator" when, in fact, he's not the most liberal senator in his own state.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:04 AM
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6. She isn't even in the same league as Kennedy. She's a Bush leaguer.
Edited on Tue May-27-08 10:07 AM by Major Hogwash
Everything she says or does is predetermined to help her - and only her.
When she voted against Kerry's amendment to the DOD budget bill in 2005 that would require a timeline for our troops in Iraq, that was the most selfish act of a politician I have ever witnessed in my entire life.
Then she voted against Murtha's plan to get the troops out of harm's way by relocating them to Kuwait later that same year.

No, the legacy of Hillary will be lies about "ducking sniper fire", her statements about Obama being a Christian, "as far as I know" - and her stupid ridiculous comments about "you can't choose your family, but you can choose your pastor" - one of the most ridiculous comments she ever made.

And that was topped off with her announcement that her supporters are white.
She is the first Democratic candidate in 40 years to mention the color of her supporters.
The last one was George Wallace!!

Some legacy.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:07 AM
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7. Lay down with dogs - get up with NOTHING.
Bye bye
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:08 AM
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8. The people of NY will determine HRC's political future. Somehow I don't think
that's the avenue she'll pursue. I see her moving into the private sector.

While selfless, public servant can be applied to Sen. Kennedy's life, it's not as easy a fit for HRC.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:15 AM
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9. Hi Liberal_Stalwart71.
Please be aware that DU copyright rules require that excerpts of copyrighted material be limited to four paragraphs and must include a link to the original source.

best,
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:37 PM
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14. Thanks. Sorry for the oversight. ;)
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:46 AM
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11. From the text : "It all depends on the attitude, what's in the mind of the person."
It ends right there with Clinton.
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