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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:25 AM
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Ambinder: Obama banking Super Delegates. In other words,
Obama has SDs on tap that he isn't making public until after MT and
SD. Here's the article:

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"Neither the Clinton nor the Obama campaign is clear what the DNC's rules and bylaws committee will do on May 31; depending upon how or whether they re-allocate delegates, Obama could wind up within to 20 to 30 votes of the nomination -- a situation rectifiable by a piddling performance in Puerto RIco, South Dakota and Montana -- or more than 100 delegates short, requiring solid performances in those states plus a few dozen superdelegate endorsements to put him over the top.

To prepare for that eventuality, the Obama campaign has, for the first time, really, begun to bank delegates. Sources close to the campaign estimate that as many as three dozen Democratic superdelegates have privately pledged to announce their support for Obama on June 4 or 5. The campaign is determined that Obama not end the first week in June without securing the support of delegates numbering 2026 -- or 2210, as the case may be."
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/obama_campaign_banks_superdele.php


I wish Obama supporters would stop bashing the SDs. It's clear that it's the Obama campaign's strategy to play it like this.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:26 AM
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1. It would be interesting to find out definitively whether the delay is at Obama's direction...
or if it's wussiness on the parts of the SD's.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:38 AM
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10. I think it's his.
He's giving Clinton time to make a graceful exit, and not offend her supporters.
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:23 PM
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22. Which would be a great plan
if she would bow out with honor.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:26 AM
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2. why not come out BEFORE the rules com meeting?
he could claim victory before they have the chance to give Hillary anything from FL or MI
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:29 AM
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4. Strategy, he doesn't want to be seen as stealing the nom or disenfranchising those states
It has to be done this way IMHO
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:33 AM
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7. Have you ever been out to Montana? They've been disenfranchised for 30 years.
If the super delegates announced their endorsements a week before they voted in Montana, it wouldn't hurt their feelings any.
The last President that gave a damn about the West was Carter.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:40 AM
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11. that may well be true, but hillary and her supporters would
be yelling at top volume about it.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:45 AM
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13. So, and you think she will go quietly into the night after June 3rd?
I think not.

But, what it does mean is that the primary season will be over.
And that pretty much ensures no more Bubba on teevee.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:56 AM
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15. they're preemptively yelling at top volume, in case you haven't noticed.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:00 AM
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17. oh, I think they could notch it up- and get a lot of MSM mileage
out of Obama breaking out a couple of dozen SDs at once before the RBC meeting and the last contests. Furthermore, I trust the Obama team knows lots more than you or I, and that they're pursuing this strategy for good reason.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:01 AM
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18. sorry, I'm not being clear: I approve of Obama's strategy here, I'm just sayin
the clinton campaign is preemptively yelling and whining about everything in advance at this point.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:30 AM
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5. They just did...
;)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:31 AM
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6. Because they're negotiating reefs of angry hill supporters
and trying to avoid giving hilly an opening to argue that he's trying to shut down the remaining contests.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:28 AM
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3. Absolutely.
A lot of SDs would love to make their support public, but have been requested not to go public at this time.

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:34 AM
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8. I agree with you about bashing the SD's. We're getting enough of that
from Bill Clinton these days. I trust that the Obama campaign knows exactly what it's doing, they've done a wonderful job to this point, and defeated the most well heeled political machine in recent history. I say we back off the SD's because I'm sure they read the blogs, and progressive sites just as we do.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:37 AM
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9. K&R
good news!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:42 AM
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12. Absolutely.
Thank you for this.

Nominated.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:47 AM
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14. he doesn't want to be the next *
doesn't want anyone to be able to say that the process was anything but by the book. and, i think, doesn't want to do anything that is not by the book. cuz he is that kind of guy.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:00 AM
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16. Good stuff. Thanks, cali.
Recommended.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:19 AM
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19. he wants an actual Primary election to put him over the Top.
So he'll trickle out enough SD's such that after S Dakota & Montana will officially put him over the top.
Symbolic, but important.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:31 AM
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20. "after S Dakota & Montana will officially put him over the top." NOT HAPPENING!
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:55 AM
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21. well that's how *i* would do it
which is of course the most important thing
;)
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:12 PM
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26. ....now theres a match!
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:42 PM
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23. I love the way the Obama campaign
is running circles around the Clintons campaign.
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:22 PM
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24. The SDs don't HAVE to do anything before the convention.
Edited on Tue May-27-08 01:23 PM by papapi
If Mr. Obama needs to control some SD supporters to win the nomination , so be it. I've never been one to bash the SDs. They hold the most power in a situation like this one, obviously, and rightly so. But these lengthy primary seasons need close examination for the future.

Pantsuits on sale June 4th. I want a red one. True colors. :sarcasm:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:24 PM
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25. Hillary could really save herself some embarrassment...
by bowing out tomorrow, after the MI/FL rules don't shake out in her favor.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:14 PM
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27. It's about time that fat lady sings for the last time! n/t
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:16 PM
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28. There is something creepy about private pledges being gradually revealed to manipulate voters.


How and when were the pledges made and for what other possible purpose?

What happened to open government?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:17 PM
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29. Yep
Some Obama supporters call it "stealing" if and when Clinton gets an SD... they would have to say the same of Obama should this happen for him.

All is fair. Well, supposed to be anyway.
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