For a campaign that is in General Election mode this board sure is spending a lot of time on Clinton

[jsamuel]

:shrug:

[KSinTX]

1. Did you hear that McCain thinks Webb's GI bill is *too generous*

to veterans returning from war?

[NightWatcher]

2. where's the list of people who voted with McCain on that one?

I bet my guy did and I'd love to make a huge banner to hang in town this summer

[KSinTX]

22. Umm, McCain sorta didn't make it

He was on Ellen's show talking about gay marriage. Any of these yours?

Senators Who Voted Against
NAYs ---22

Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lugar (R-IN)
McConnell (R-KY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Voinovich (R-OH)

[NightWatcher]

23. shockaroo, for once a Georgia Senator was not on the list of assholes

[KSinTX]

24. Pox on you! My numnutz (one) was - Cornyn

I am gaining more and more respect for madam Kay Bailey Hutchison as time goes on. I don't know if it's that she's getting better or because I'm seeing her compared to Cornyn.

[NJmaverick]

3. Yeah McCain thinks every GI should find themselves a sugar momma

like he did.

[jsamuel]

6. uhg

[nichomachus]

"This board" isn't "the campaign"

[kerry-is-my-prez]

12. Thank God - if it were - McCain would be the Dem candidate.

That's how screwed up this place is.

[nichomachus]

19. That's just a stupid statement

This board reflects the turmoil that's going on within the party. There is a civil war raging in the Democratic party, which most people can't see for all the smoke. It's a battle for control -- who will run the party, the DLC or the DNC. This is why Hillary and Bill and their DLC partners are engaged in a slash-and-burn campaign. This is why the DNC got suckered by the Hillary gang into the self-destructive sanctions against FL and MI. The only thing that can come out of that is a loss of credibility by the DNC. It was a setup from Day 1.

Most people, even here, are dazzled by the bright, shiny objects and can't see what's going on behind the scenes, as the battle for control of the party rages on. Bill and Hill want to be the emperor and empress of the
party with their DLC courtiers right behind them. That's why she's not dropping out and that's why they don't care what happens to Obama.

Right now, Bill is the presumptive head of the party. If Hill drops out, and Obama is elected, then he becomes the head of the party. This is why Bill is campaigning full speed ahead to trash Obama.

Hillary won't drop out until she and Bill are assured they can have their hands on the levers of power in the party. It has nothing to do with being VP or anything like that. They have been in control for nearly 20 years. They aren't giving that up without a fight.

[gcomeau]

4. As long as Clinton insists...

...on conducting herself in a manner designed to torpedo our GE prospects, she's going to be a focus of discussion whether we're in GE more or not.

[americanstranger]

10. Precisely. As long as she is still 'fighting,'

we fight.

- as

[AtomicKitten]

5. Why? Because she's a fly in the ointment by not having the grace to concede.

[2rth2pwr]

7. They know she can still win it.

[tridim]

9. Either that or they have been smacked upside the head with a shovel

and believe "she can still win it".

Obama is the presumptive nominee. Period.

[Arrowhead2k1]

11. Yeah sure, we'll see very soon.

Gee, I can't wait until shit finally sinks in for you all.

[gcomeau]

14. No, we know she can still lose the GE for Obama.

Which she appears to be enthusiastically attempting to do.

There is no chance in hell she can still win herself. She is out of reach of the nomination, no matter what the rules committee decides on the 31st.

[smiley_glad_hands]

16. She can still win what? The lottery? She's already lost the nomination. eom

[greguganus]

18. She's still waiting on that "something could happen" win. n/t

[DevonRex]

8. This is primaries discussion. So we discuss the 2 candidates in

the democratic primaries. Pretty simple.

[PoliticalAmazon]

13. One would expect with Hillary using assassination as a campaign tool that there....

would be some discussion about it.

[madrchsod]

15. barack-65%...john-43%

but when the machines are done it will be barack by 5% with just enough electoral college votes to put him in the whitehouse

[Tommy_Carcetti]

17. See an old post of mine:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6066336

I got crucified for posting it.

But honestly, this all is very counterproductive. There definitely is an air of mob mentality going on right now. Hopefully it will pass.

[TheDebbieDee]

20. It's called "obsession".

[Jakes Progress]

21. But what are they obsessed with?

Obama Love?
Hillary Hate?
or just Losing?

Winning in November is certainly not their top priority.

[cbc5g]

25. I wish we could stop talking about Clinton and head into GE mode

But Hillary just keeps bringing herself up and attacking Obama in the worst of ways.

[VotesForWomen]

26. yep; they are rightly insecure about whether O really has the nom or not.

[cali]

27. the OP is a mite confused. Obama's campaign is in general election

mode and focusing on McCain. And yes, some Obama supporters here are worried that Obama won't be the nominee. It's an unreasonable worry, but there it is.