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Tue May-27-08 02:26 PM
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Anyone listening to Randi giving the Clintons hell? She is pissed about |
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the assassination invocation by Ms. Clinton. Apparently, once people got over the initial shock, and began doing some investigation into the substance, and it appears that Hillary's been caught LYING again. BIG SURPRISE!
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Tue May-27-08 02:28 PM
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Tue May-27-08 02:37 PM
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8. True. I don't know what one has to believe in order to continue to support |
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this woman. There's a reason 6 out of 10 people thinks she's a liar.
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Tue May-27-08 03:19 PM
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36. Sorry - bur RFK's son says folk's like Randi have their head up their ass on this one |
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Tue May-27-08 02:29 PM
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Tue May-27-08 02:33 PM
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5. Randi played a clip of Doris Kearns Goodwin. Not only was Hillary |
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inciting to riot (LOL), but the examples of her husband and Bobby Kennedy don't stand up to scrutiny. So again, Hillary was wrong on every level. Can't explain more than that.
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Tue May-27-08 03:21 PM
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38. Doris did not say Hillary was wrong - June is June and they ended in June |
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Tue May-27-08 03:36 PM
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44. yes she did, read the MTP transcript |
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Edited on Tue May-27-08 03:37 PM by Carolina
RFK's campaign didn't even begin until March 1968! He announced, to the chagrin of many, after Eugene McCarthy won the New Hampshire primary that showed how weak LBJ was. And LBJ subsequently went on to announce that would not seek nor would he accept the nomination of his party for POTUS.
So the timeline reference is flawed. RFK's campaign was a little over 2 months since he was shot just after midnight on June 5th and died on June 6th!
June in the primary cycle then is not the same as June NOW, after all it depends on "what is is"... !
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Tue May-27-08 03:47 PM
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Tue May-27-08 04:49 PM
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Hillbots never cease to amaze me with their lies and spin... much like their feckless leader Hi-liar-y Rotten Clinton!
I try to refute with facts though they can't handle facts, numbers or truth.
BTW, for those of us lived through that tumultuous year and worked on RFK's campaign, there is no way EVER to excuse Shrillary's words. She said what was lurking in her craven, narcissistic, sociopathic, power hungry soul.
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Tue May-27-08 05:17 PM
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66. Present them with facts, and you get "crickets" , or Ignored. |
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Edited on Tue May-27-08 05:18 PM by Tarheel_Dem
They can spin it here, however they like, but that was the talking point to end all talking points. Even the overseas press can't believe she went there. I hope the Clintons are relegated to the back of the party bus, and have absolutely no future control over this party going forward.
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Tue May-27-08 05:22 PM
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68. Especially that particular poster...always talking smack and snark. |
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Tue May-27-08 09:10 PM
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84. Precisely. Like our good friend rodeo. nt |
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Tue May-27-08 10:24 PM
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94. what happened to rodeo? |
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Tue May-27-08 11:26 PM
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95. Oh, she's still here...as delusional as ever. nt |
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Thu May-29-08 06:30 AM
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100. Oh boy, he/she's really a trip. |
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Tue May-27-08 07:09 PM
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74. You fail the smell test... |
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It was an example of a campaign going into June. Nothing more, nothing less. The fact that you say Hillbots, Hi-liar-y, Rotten, Shillary, lurking, craven, narcissistic, sociopathic, power hungry...shows that you are speaking to an adoring audience, not one interested in facts.
I will vote for Obama in November because we need a dem in the White House, in spite of the sleezy connections with the worst of Chicago politics that Obama appears to have. Neither of these people are saints and I for one don't want a saint. I want someone who can take it to the republicans even better than they did to us. The hell with bipartisanship.
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Tue May-27-08 08:09 PM
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80. Hmmm... that sounds rational. |
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Except that I would add that no matter how you look at it, bringing up assasination in the context of a presidential contest is, at the very least tasteless and stupid.
It goes from there right down to despicable and straight on into diabolic and evil.
The best case that can be made for her is that she was being an idiot... that's kind.
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Tue May-27-08 09:33 PM
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91. Words like Hillbot and Shrillary only inflame n/t |
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Wed May-28-08 08:11 AM
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99. None of this, of course... |
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...means that Sen. Clinton intended to incite assassination attempts. Of course her justifications for remaining in the race are flawed, but that doesn't make her an accessory to anything worse than trying to be president.
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Tue May-27-08 04:07 PM
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56. Bill Clinton wrapped up the nomination in April when he had enough delegates... |
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NOT JUNE!!!!!!
Hillary is flat-out lying and everyone on that panel, including Russert, Kearns, and Dowd stated that Hillary was WRONG!!!
You need to go back and watch Meet The Press again because Hillary has fucked your mind real good. :(
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Tue May-27-08 02:30 PM
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3. Bill Clinton had wrapped up the nom long before California's primary in 92 |
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That was pointed out on Meet The Press.
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Tue May-27-08 02:35 PM
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6. I didn't see MTP, but Randi's playing clips of Terry McSleazy blaming it |
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all on Obama's camp. I can't believe these people.
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Tue May-27-08 03:11 PM
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29. That was crazy. They are really grasping. |
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They don't even care if what they say makes any sense any more, let alone whether or not it's true.
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Tue May-27-08 03:16 PM
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33. Agreed. Say anything. Do Anything. Win at all costs. I don't think |
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Hillary has figured out that there's a difference between being scrappy, and bordering on psychosis.
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Tue May-27-08 03:22 PM
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39. Obama's camp lied about "stiring things up" - press kit revealed by ABC News |
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Tue May-27-08 03:25 PM
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41. Link? And if you think I believe anything coming from the network of |
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Edited on Tue May-27-08 03:30 PM by Tarheel_Dem
George Stapphacolous, and Charlie Gibson, you should buy a clue.
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Tue May-27-08 03:35 PM
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43. I'm thinking s/he doesn't know what "link" means. |
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Edited on Tue May-27-08 03:35 PM by cui bono
I've asked him/her for links but... well, you know.
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Tue May-27-08 03:49 PM
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50. It's another in a long line of unsubstantiated talking points. I swear, |
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I have to give them an "E" for effort. I don't know where they get the energy to spin this much.
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Tue May-27-08 04:54 PM
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65. Maybe you're giving them the wrong E's! |
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The energy E's are right next to the effort E's. Be more careful next time. ;)
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Tue May-27-08 05:20 PM
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67. I stand chastened and rebuked, I'll watch that in the future........ |
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Tue May-27-08 02:32 PM
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4. well the other thread told me to go to young turks |
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will you guys get it straight I am so confused lol
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Tue May-27-08 02:36 PM
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37. Thanks for that..I want to hear TYT 'cause |
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he's tried to be so fair and patient this whole time with the clintons but like KO he had a line that they crossed a while ago.
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Tue May-27-08 02:43 PM
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17. turn on the Howard Stern repeat |
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Tue May-27-08 03:03 PM
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24. You can never go wrong with The Young Turks, imo. nt |
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Tue May-27-08 02:37 PM
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9. Randi swings from cloying sycophant to hate. No middle ground for her... |
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I remember her worshipful comments on the Clintons, including Bill's "You fall in line after the primary."
I think she serves a good purpose because many people who live in conservative areas are aching for aggressive comments against Republicans and other conservatives, including the Clintons.
But she does have these polar swings in opinion, which some find uncomfortable.
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Tue May-27-08 02:39 PM
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11. LOL. I can't deny that. There are days when I have to switch her off. |
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Usually, it's the days when she's talking about her famous friends. She does like to name drop.
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Tue May-27-08 02:42 PM
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15. OMG, Willie Nelson. I absolutely cringe when she gets going on him. n/t |
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Tue May-27-08 02:47 PM
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19. I know the feeling..........nt |
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Tue May-27-08 03:03 PM
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25. Inoticed that too. And Randi loves no one as much as Randi |
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I quit listening to her when it began annoying me that she didn't treat the listeners who called in with respect. Talked over them, argued even when they said what she said, etc. JEESH!
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Tue May-27-08 03:16 PM
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32. LOL! Too true... she ain't the sharpest bulb on the chandelier. |
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Still like her though.
Rachel Maddow, OTOH... what a package. Sharp mind, gorgeous eyes... only one drawback; she won't go out with me.
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Tue May-27-08 04:09 PM
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57. If Maddow would date you, my husband would be stalking you! |
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She is the only TV personality whom he doesn't see as being gay!
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60. How funny... the reason I'm pretty sure she wouldn't go out with me is |
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because she is gay.
But hey, I'd take what I could get.
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Tue May-27-08 06:54 PM
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73. Hey I'm not letting him in on that news. |
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I notice he will shower before her show comes on (Like that's gonna have her dropping by our house.)
Now if I can get him to vacuum before she comes on the television, I have it made!
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If he's like 65% of men, try telling him you think she's cute too... I'll bet you'll get him in an apron!
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Tue May-27-08 03:51 PM
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51. Not just listener call-ins, but whe she has interviews with politicians, etc.... |
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she usually hogs the whole time so that the politician really doesn't have a chance to talk. I guess that's why she can't get many people to appear on her show.
But screaming at her listener call-ins...that was too much for me, too.
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Tue May-27-08 07:47 PM
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79. Eh... she's better since she left Air America. |
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I think she was miserable in New York. She seems happier now and isn't as rude.... most of the time.
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89. I agree, I used to listen to Rush in the late 90s, just to get my blood pressure up |
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She is really starting to remind me of him, way too much.
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Tue May-27-08 03:09 PM
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27. I agree with a lot of what you say, but a lot of people who respected the Clintons |
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Tue May-27-08 04:11 PM
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59. Yes, she does do that, and I love Randi, but she's dead wrong about the VP |
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It's not how the process works. Every presidential nominee has the right to choose whomever he wants. The SD's are overwhelmingly for Obama and I think they won't overturn his choice for VP, nor do I think they can legally do that.
Imagine the Dems overturning the VP choice of their nominee. That would create chaos and would amount to suicide. I love Randi, but she's definitely WRONG!!
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Tue May-27-08 02:38 PM
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Tue May-27-08 02:40 PM
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12. Is Randi drunk again? |
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Tue May-27-08 02:41 PM
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14. Didn't someone just get tombstoned for this? |
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Tue May-27-08 04:02 PM
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53. Maybe they just got sued |
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Tue May-27-08 02:47 PM
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18. She has been drunk on-air before? |
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Any proof of that? Got any article on the subject? Or are you just spewing slander, hoping that something sticks?
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Tue May-27-08 02:50 PM
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21. Didn't you know? The Clinton camp makes up their own facts. They |
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have talking points to fit any occasion. The above poster is the worst.
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23. the poster is referring to the time she fell in NYC on a WEEKEND |
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When she might have been drinking. The horrors of someone going to a bar on a weekend!!!!
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52. Maybe she's like Hillary and |
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Tue May-27-08 05:55 PM
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71. My stars! Put her in the stocks! |
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Temperance! Prohibition! Modesty! Good lord.
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Tue May-27-08 05:43 PM
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69. How's that moonshine coming along? YeeHa! |
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Wed May-28-08 06:36 AM
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98. have you stopped drowning kittens? |
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Tue May-27-08 02:57 PM
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22. She's got her first Hillary supporter, who has now switched his support to Obama |
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after her remarks over the weekend. People are waking up. There were a couple of Hillary people on Stephanie Miller this morning as well.
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Tue May-27-08 03:06 PM
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26. i notice obama never lies; he only misspeaks. nt |
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28. Why don't you post his lies then? |
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31. more crickets? They've got their talking points, and they're not gonna |
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Tue May-27-08 03:19 PM
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35. Do you have a problem with Obama's response to the assassination |
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flap? Have you heard his most eloquent response, or are just operating on automatic hate? Translation: Obama = Bad; Hillary = Good?
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Tue May-27-08 03:31 PM
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42. nono clinton misspoke. |
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Tue May-27-08 03:37 PM
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46. Jesus Randi is talking approvingly about Paglia |
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and calling her one of the top intellectuals. I like Randi, but that is SOME horseshit. I can name 100 intellectuals off the top of my head who are more respected, but not nearly as publicly known, as that piece of human garbage.
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Tue May-27-08 03:41 PM
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47. I don't really know anything about Paglia. |
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Tue May-27-08 03:46 PM
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48. She's a "postfeminist" allegedly, but she's really no kind of feminist |
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she's a tool of the patriarchy who achieved status because of her book Sexual Personae in the 90s. Since then, she has become something of a crackpot public intellectual who writes approvingly about phallic politics, etc.
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Tue May-27-08 07:13 PM
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75. she loves the sound of her own voice |
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Usually I can't understand wtf she babbles about.
Before I knew what she was about, I made the mistake of trying to watch her on Booknotes one weekend..:eyes:
Three hours of my life I'll never get back x( x( x(
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97. Susie Bright thinks that Paglia is a butch bottom |
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That would explain a lot.
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Tue May-27-08 04:26 PM
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62. A "post"-feminist whose prototype is Madonna. |
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Tue May-27-08 04:02 PM
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54. I've been saying all of this for days |
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Ever since she first started using them as an excuse for staying in the race. But when I say it I'm just a crazed Hillary Hater.
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Tue May-27-08 04:07 PM
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55. Join the Club, you old "Hillary Hater" you... |
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I've been called a Freeper, a Bot, a Woman Hater...you name it. I'm immune to it at this point, which I think is really sad for the Women's Movement, the overuse of the "sexist" meme has rendered the word nearly meaningless.
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Tue May-27-08 04:09 PM
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58. I quit listening to Randi not long after she tried to blame John Kerry |
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for the taser boy incident...
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Tue May-27-08 04:24 PM
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61. Who Cares? The Outrage Is One Of The Dumbest Things I've Ever Witnessed. |
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Just plain dumb. She wasn't implying whatsoever that Obama was at risk of being assassinated, and the implication is dumb on its face.
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Tue May-27-08 04:52 PM
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64. OMC, sadly your laid back reaction speaks volumes. |
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Many black women, my sister included, did not support Obama initially because of the fear of some lunatic taking him out. For Hillary to adopt such a scenario as part of her campaign talking points, is beyond deplorable. And your defense of it, just because you support Hillary, is just mind blowing.
Many of us thought "bittergate" was ridiculous, but that didn't stop you guys and HILLARY from running with it. Obama has been much more magnanimous than I. There's no room for people like Hillary in the Democratic Party. She is beneath contempt.
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77. I Haven't Lost All Sense Of Reasoning, Logic, Comprehension And Critical Thinking Ability. |
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That's why I'm so laid back.
The reaction of outrage is one of the funniest, and dumbest, things I've seen here.
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87. You've definitely lost something. Ah...crediblity, that's what's missing. |
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Tue May-27-08 09:26 PM
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90. My Credibility Is Not Rooted In The Opinions Of Groupthinking Closed Minded Zealots. |
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So I'm kind of proud that those like you find me to lack credibility. Means I'm doin somethin right. See, spreading the truth always pisses ignoramus off. I mean after all, truth is their mortal enemy. Without it, they'd be free to spout whatever irrational malarkey they wanted without resistance! But damn that truth.. that truth.. that thorn in so many of your sides truth. Such a bitch truth is. So hard to swallow for those with closed zealot minds. But alas, the truth is there anyway, and it stands with as much credibility as it ever has. But it stands there laughing down at the fools who think they get to define reality with zealotry, warped opinion, skewed concepts, emotional rants, illogical ramblings, and a complete lack of critical thought. But no, credibility is not missing. Your ability to even begin to understand what is and isn't credible is missing kid. Maybe someday when this is all over, you can find it again.
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Tue May-27-08 10:21 PM
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Tue May-27-08 05:46 PM
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70. You gotta love Randi she is rarely proved wrong with time. |
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Tue May-27-08 09:16 PM
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85. Exactly. Randi can be abrasive at times, but she's usually spot on when |
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it comes to research and truth telling. I like the fact that she can always source her positions, and she refuses to allow callers to go unchallenged if the make claims that can't be proven with valid backup.
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Tue May-27-08 05:58 PM
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72. I stopped listening to her when she called Hillary a whore. |
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Tue May-27-08 08:31 PM
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81. That didn't bother me at all. Hillary IS a political whore..... |
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and I don't flinch at strong words.
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Tue May-27-08 09:18 PM
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86. And Geraldine Ferraro has proven herself to be quite the whore as well. |
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Tue May-27-08 07:18 PM
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76. Randi "The Whore" Rhodes? |
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I hear a "PeterBuilt" calling you!
vile woman with a mic...:puke:
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Tue May-27-08 08:44 PM
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82. RR's opinions are not for sale. Don't mistake her for Hillary. n/t |
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Tue May-27-08 09:22 PM
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88. You wanna see a vile woman with a mic? You need check no further |
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than your own sig line. :puke:
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Tue May-27-08 10:20 PM
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92. I should be shot for having been a Randi fan at one point. |
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To think I used to support her.
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Tue May-27-08 11:28 PM
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96. Funny.....that's exactly how most here feel about Hillary. Go figure |
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