Incredible. Disgusting. Media And Rethugs Bashing Obama On Concentration Camp

[MannyGoldstein]

The German death camps and concentration camps are the most awful things that have been visited upon the civilized world. 12 million people were starved, gassed, burned, tortured, and/or worked to death.

So Obama, speaking of his uncle's liberation of a camp, got the name of the camp wrong. It is beyond despicable that anyone would sully the actions of Obama's uncle, and his generation of fellow Americans who saved the world, by attacking Obama to create a cloud of confusion.

Shame. Shame.

[BlooInBloo]

1. And the few usual shitty DUers, taking their cues from republicans.

[madeline_con]

2. It only proves they have no argument

so they have to invent a problem. Morans!

[Name removed]

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[jenmito]

4. CNN (360) lead with the story saying it was based in truth-he just got the name of the camp wrong.

I give credit to Anderson Cooper and Candy Crowley...but the "teaser" made it seem like it was a BIG mistake.

[SoonerPride]

6. This only plays up Obama's hero roots.

Yeah, when the story gets out to the Jewish community that Obama's relative was a concentration camp liberator, that'll really hurt him in the GE.

So he gets a name wrong?

It ends up gettign way more pub for him that if it had gone unnoticed and it is totally 100% positive information.

[funflower]

13. I agree. Thank you, freepers. You've played into our hands nicely. n/t

[jenmito]

15. I agree. This gets out the fact that he DID have a relative involved in the liberation...

it was funny how they discussed whether or not this was comparable to Hillary's sniper-fire LIE and of course the conclusion was no.

[ErinBerin84]

5. I haven't seen the media bashing him on this yet

(of course, I don't watch Fox, so that does not include them). Maybe this will be a "BIG STORY!" tomorrow.

[SoonerPride]

8. It'll just end up a bonus for Obama. Let 'em whine about his mistake.

[Cha]

25. It will be a bonus 'cause Obama

will get more visual time to let more peeps know about his great uncle in World War 11.

The m$$$fm always steps in it like their machine candidate hilary.

[graycem]

46. So true..

this will possibly help him with the Jewish vote they're alleging he's struggling with. Then we have the bigot Lou Dobbs pissed at him which will likely help him with the Latino vote. Man, maybe some of the RNC people don't really want McCain elected. :rofl:

[MannyGoldstein]

10. It Ain't Pretty

http://news.google.com/news?ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&hl=en&resnum=1&ncl=1216643425

[unpossibles]

7. I hope they are proud of themselves

I guess Memorial Day is over, huh?

[Condem]

9. Yes, indeed

What a difference between Auschwitz and Buchenwald. Grasping at straws. Utter stupidity.

[AtomicKitten]

11. It's lame bait & switch because they want to avoid dealing with McSame's opposition to the GI bill.

[Iceburg]

12. He's as geography & history impaired as Bush -- there is no excuse for

that level of ignorance, particularly in a man running for the highest office of the land.
Moreover, what 'ta hell is wrong with his speech writing staff???? Why didn't they pick this up???
Recall, Obama is also the fellow that (in the grand tradition of Bush) said he didn't need to know all the details cuz he could hire staff and advisors to tend to such matters.

[Condem]

16. Iceburg

You couldn't tell me who won the American Civil War. You best know military history to make that comment, and I got a feeling you don't!

[funflower]

17. Those ignorant , impaired ex-presidents of the Harvard Law Review....

Why do they even let those ninkompoops out of high school? :eyes:

[MannyGoldstein]

18. Oh Dear God

Is your rage so blinding that you cannot see the difference between Obama and Bush?

[CoffeeCat]

24. It was a mistake...

...It's not like he didn't know the difference between the two concentration camps, or mixed
up their locations on a map.

Obama misspoke.

I'm disgusted. The subject of the Holocaust is such a tender and painful topic. To swoop
in and begin eviscerating a Presidential candidate, for making a mistake--is cruel
and insensitive.

I guess there will always be someone crouching in the bushes, waiting for Obama to slip up
or make a mistake---so eager to pounce and pontificate about what an honest mistake means
in the broader sense.

This kind of venom--especially within the context of discussing a war hero who liberated
a concentration camp--is more than I can stomach.

[SoonerPride]

33. I banish fools like that to ignoreland forever. No time for morans in my life.

I recommend you do the same.

[CaptJasHook]

40. Snipergate? RFK -- Hillary. Iran, I mean Al Quada -- McCain

Really, who has the biggest gaffes?

Get a life.

[DemVet]

14. I guess Barry doesn't know his family history that well, does he?

[funflower]

19. And your point is?

[NYCGirl]

21. Well, the Holocaust Museum just confirmed the story. I guess we all learned

something tonight.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/holocaust-museum-confirms-obamas-uncles.html

[TLM]

30. Not like he lied and claimed he dodged sniper fire....

He simply got the name of the camp wrong.

The facts are quite true, that his Uncle was involved in the liberation of a death camp.


Go ahead, spin that into a negative.

[Mz Pip]

45. Was one death camp

less relevant than another? Did the people suffer less at one then the other? Is liberating one less important than the liberation of another?

Or are you just stupid?

[AZBlue]

53. Sen. Obama knows his history better than Sen. Clinton does.

[iconicgnom]

57. I bet you don't realize just how lame you are.

[DemVet]

74. No I don't.

But I know how lame you are.

:beer:

[onenote]

75. Congratulations on proving iconicgnom's point!!

[cottonseed]

68. This is an Obama/McCain issue. You know, Presidential Candidates.

As a Democrat, you should really think about stopping the attacks on our nominee.

[NanceGreggs]

70. And Blondie doesn't know ...

... her own history that well, does she? Seems to think she was pinned-down by sniper-fire back in her Rambo days.

[Swamp Rat]

20. This will backfire.

This is actually good press for Obama. ;)

Obama's uncle = WWII hero/freed concentration camp survivors. :patriot:

[Elspeth]

22. And you're surprised, why?

This is the media--it's what they do.

[Condem]

23. Tick- tock, Iceburg

[Cassandra]

26. Of course, their hero, Reagan...

remembered liberating the concentration camps while he was still in Hollywood.

[MannyGoldstein]

28. Fucker Went To Bitburg

To lay a wreath for the German dead, including the Gestapo - said that the Gestapo were victims of Hitler just like the Jews. Even Bob Dole, who was Senate Minority Leader, gagged on that.

[Condem]

29. Bonzo went to Bitburg, Manny

[MannyGoldstein]

31. Sigh. I Love The Ramones

RIP, Joey, Johnny, and Dee Dee.

[Condem]

34. Manny- I'm glad you saw the reference there. Gabba Gabba Hey

[still_one]

27. There is one thing people should have NO DOUBT about, mccain WILL overturn roe v wade

He has stated that as his goal, and has stated he will appoint Supreme Court judges to insure it happens

This isn't a joke or an idle threat

Stevens is 87 plus years old

Ginsberg and Breyer are also potentially ready to step down

We can play all the games we want with each other, but the facts remain what will happen to civil rights, gender rights, and human rights if mccain is elected

The two advantages we have is that mccain is an extension of bush, and bush is not particularly popular, and that Bob Barr will be running as a Libertarian, which might help us

The polls do not take into account Barr or the young people, but unfortunately what the polls do say, is that there are a certain percentage of Clinton supporters who will not vote for the Democrat if it isn't Clinton

That is extremely an extremely self-hating, and nader like philosophy that can only hurt the country and that party

[2rth2pwr]

32. Uncle? I thought it was his great Uncle.

[Condem]

35. Hey, 2rth

Coming with us for the ride?

[2rth2pwr]

36. Are you trying to sound ominous?

[Condem]

39. You a military historian, 2rth?

I saw you're other post. No your shit, do ya?

[2rth2pwr]

41. I know when to use know instead of no.

[Condem]

43. Yes ,indeed, Stonewall Jackson

Caught that one. Just as I figured, though. You're all fuckin' talk. I bet you got a thousand history books around.

[Condem]

51. You and Iceburg, 2rth!

When called out , don't know shit.

[2rth2pwr]

55. Neither one of you has called me out on anything. Just sound like a couple

of youngsters feeding off each other.

[2rth2pwr]

54. Are you ever planning on getting to your point?

[Condem]

56. Tell me about the liberation of Auschwitz, 2rth

Besides what you looked up today.

[2rth2pwr]

58. Why? You also want me to do some cartwheels?

[Condem]

59. You posted some serious shit about Obama

It's obvious you know (I got it right this time) shit except for googling it. You want to talk military matters, bring some fuckin background.

[2rth2pwr]

60. This is getting boring, you have had your chances, time to move on.

[Condem]

61. Nice escape, 2rth

Poser. I will hound your ass. Fuckin Learn!

[2rth2pwr]

62. Put down the Jack Daniels, you're sounding close to blackout level.

[Condem]

63. Scotch, 2rth. McClellands, exactly.

Not spelled like the Civil War general. But you wouldn't know that.

[cottonseed]

67. This is an Obama/McCain issue. You know, the Presidential candidates.

I don't even know why we keep this Primaries board open anymore.

[CaptJasHook]

37. Pleeeease get used to it. Disgusting maybe, Incredible... not at all.

Any low down trick from the Rethuglicans is entirely in the realm of credulity.

This is nothing compared to what we are about to experience. Get ready to fight.

[dana_b]

48. exactly!!

I just repeated your post (in so many words). SOrry I didn't see yours first.

[CaptJasHook]

52. Excellent, another pragmatist on the GD/P

[breakaleg]

38. So he gets the name of a camp wrong related to a relative. And SHE claims to REMEMBER being fired

at by snipers. Seriously, this is not even on the same scale as what she "got wrong". At least it's understandable that he made a mistake about an event that didn't involve him. What's her excuse?

[bullwinkle428]

42. Utterly pathetic that they would attempt to attack him with this -

I was raised in Reform Jewish home, and attended classes regularly associated with our synagogue in which we learned all kinds of things related to the history of Judaism.

I can absolutely assure you that we did NOT go into all of the subtle details regarding which particular concentration camps were technically "extermination camps" and which were not.

We certainly learned of the locations of all of the most prominent camps, as well as the unspeakable horror that occurred within them. The most transparent kind of faux outrage that the GOP could muster!

[graycem]

44. It just shows what Republicans

REALLY think about our military service men and women and their heroism. They are only proud of the ones that they can claim as Republicans. Look what they did to John Kerry, a real war hero, and Dubya the drunk. They will smear anyone if it benefits them politically. Heartless and morally bankrupt, they're disgusting in every way.

[dana_b]

47. the attacks are more intense because they know he's the nominee.

It comes with the territory (especially from the Repubs).

[Carrieyazel]

49. This will be down and dirty, and if Obama can't deal with it, he's in deep trouble.

Politics is the most shameful, nastiest and vicious profession out there. That's what it is. Those on the Repuke side and their media allies are the lowest gutter scum out there. Obama better get on the ball, or he'll be eaten alive by all of this.

[Condem]

50. You know fuckin what, carrie

You tell the fuckin truth. That's all.

[scarletwoman]

65. I honestly think he can do alright. He's nimble and clever and smart.

And he's also unpredictable -- probably his greatest asset. He's already shown that he's an outside-the-box thinker.

I think he's going to float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.

:D
sw

[Condem]

66. Yes, scarlet , yes!

[Duke Newcombe]

64. If this is all they have and lie in wait for, the Republicans are SCA-REWWD.

As if they've never heard of someone telling a family story and getting a name wrong, even though the story is true.

Pathetic, but, then again, we are talking about McCain.

Duke

[BenDavid]

69. I am of the impression that if obambi was going to make the remark

about the veterans, he could of at least known for sure how the man was actually related to him(great uncle, not uncle) and exactly what camp his platoon entered.The mediawhores can hype Clinton's one remark on RFK's primary race until it is a bigger story than the China Earthquake. But let's give Obama a pass on every stupid utterance (and there have been many). Pleeeeeease!

He is an empty suit looking for anything that can legitimize himself. He keeps talking about everyone else around him that is great because he has no significant accomplishments himself. This guy is a serious clown that has more "gaffes" than accomplishments.

Right: candidates make gaffes all the time--but let Hillary Clinton just mention the historical fact of RFK's horrifying assassination as a way to highlight her own continued hopes for the nomination and she is crucified by columnists and Obama's campaign. I, for one, am tired of the double standard protecting Obama. As Mr. Obama says repeatedly: "don't attack me, don't attack my family, that's old politics;" but its OK for his campaign--never Mr. Obama himself--to raise allegations of racism or, in the RFK matter, imply strongly that Hillary was hoping--incredibly--for harm to come to Mr. Obama.

[scarletwoman]

71. Do you really want to stoop to such pettiness? Every extended family I've ever known, including

my own as well as families in several different cultures and countries, refers to their great-uncles as "uncles".

Trying to make an issue of THAT is just plain silly. Surely you have more pride than that.

Peace,
sw

[DemGa]

72. Obama got the wrong army

Since the Russians liberated Auschwitz - this obviously shows a poor grasp of history.

But then Obama often misspeaks key facts.

[Beacool]

73. Oh, but there were endless posts about Hillary's Bobby Kennedy remark.

Shame. Shame.