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Wed May-28-08 02:57 PM
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2nd bullshit FL lawsuit thrown out |
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Florida court throws out suit against DNC by second gen Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:16:16 AM PDT CNN
"A Florida court threw out a lawsuit Wednesday challenging the Democratic Party's decision not to seat delegates from Florida — as litigants prepared to appeal the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Political consultant Victor DiMaio and his lawyer Michael Steinberg had compared the party's decision to earlier prohibitions against allowing African-Americans to vote and invoked the trauma of the Florida recount in the 2000 contest between Al Gore and George W. Bush, both arguments also used by Hillary Clinton to support the seating of the state’s delegates second gen's diary :: :: Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean says the situations are not comparable.
"You cannot violate the rules of the process and then expect to get forgiven for it," he said. Judge Richard Lazzara sided with the party, saying that this was not a civil rights issue, the parties have the right to make their own rules.
This is the second such suit that has been brought in FL, Sen. Bill Nelson and Rep. Alcee Hastings brougth suit earlier, which was also thrown out, on the same grounds.
Meanwhile, Clinton supporters heads are exploding."
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/28/121143/922/613/524161
What a shame. And if you think Clinton supporter heads are exploding now, just wait until Saturday- and next Wednesday.
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Wed May-28-08 03:02 PM
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1. What a stupid waste of time and money for goodness sake. |
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Haven't we got enough crap going on in the world without having to have this garbage taking up valuable time? I'm sure that our courts (judges, lawyers, staff, etc.) must have other things to do then deal with this nonsense. Shame on all everyone who thought it necessary to bring these suits to court.
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Wed May-28-08 03:02 PM
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Wed May-28-08 03:10 PM
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4. I hear they are considering appealing to the Supreme Court |
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One problem with that is, the Supreme Court's term begins in October. The court, I believe, has already stopped hearing new arguments for this term and will soon recess so there is no way for it to be heard until the next term. Would they honestly want to try and drag this case on AFTER the convention has already been held?
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Wed May-28-08 03:33 PM
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5. Pretty pointless to appeal it to the SC |
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Wed May-28-08 03:36 PM
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The idea that it was even litigated to begin with has scary shades of 2000. I have been hearing rumblings about this for a few weeks. It makes me nervous.
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Wed May-28-08 03:36 PM
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7. So, what would happen IF |
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They hear the case in October, Obama wins the election in November and sworn in the following January, only to learn that the SC has ruled in Hillary's favor?
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Wed May-28-08 03:39 PM
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Someone with more legal expertise than I would have to answer this, but I would guess that the fact that time will have passed for a "just remedy" to be granted would be grounds in and of itself to refuse to hear the case.
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Wed May-28-08 04:57 PM
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22. Hillary would instantly claim the Presidency |
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Citing the previous time that the SC interfered in the electoral process.
A thousand year reign of peace, light and obliterating countries would follow, where every woman would be declared a hard working American and every man would have to keep his cigars to himself.
:sarcasm: as if it is needed
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Wed May-28-08 06:19 PM
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...Hillary will get to hold her own Convention and have herself nominated. Why Not? She claims she can hold a Primary Election anytime she wants without sanction from the Democratic Party or the DNC.
Meanwhile, Obama will still have WON the Democratic Nomination according to all legitimate elections and sanctioning rules, AND, Obama will still be president. Banging on pots and pans will NOT change that.
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Wed May-28-08 03:39 PM
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8. Well, that's certainly good news. nm |
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Wed May-28-08 03:41 PM
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10. Good. Their claims of "civil rights" should indeed be rejected by the courts. |
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Wed May-28-08 03:56 PM
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Wed May-28-08 04:13 PM
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12. Technically, more than that. 3 down, 1 pending. But DiMaio going to Supreme Court. |
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Wed May-28-08 04:16 PM
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14. I was about to ask about the one pending. |
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Taking it to the Supreme Court is ridiculous, as is most of this that has gone on. But, they won't be hearing any new arguments until October, right?
I don't see Hillary having the support, money or even gall to take it PAST the Convention.
Honestly, I don't see how she can take it TO the Convention.
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Wed May-28-08 04:22 PM
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17. I think they hear until August, the SC that is. |
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In one of my posts about DiMaio, I wrote that he said they hope to be heard before they adjourned in late August.
I'm no expert, so going by what he said.
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Wed May-28-08 04:27 PM
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19. If the Supreme Court ruled in their favor, political parties are dead |
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What would stop every state from running roughshod over BOTH the DNC and RNC in future elections?
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Wed May-28-08 04:15 PM
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13. New Hillbot talking point: Activist Judges |
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Its coming in 5, 4, 3, ...
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Wed May-28-08 04:18 PM
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15. Good. Cheating should never be rewarded. |
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Wed May-28-08 04:22 PM
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16. Where is Hillary's leadership?????? |
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Hillary should be preparing her supporters for the end of the campaign next week, instead of partaking in these completely asinine theatrics.
Instead of being a true leader and helping her supporters to move on from a race that is about to end--she's yelling fire in a crowded voting booth!
She is orchestrating mayhem and a real mess--and whipping her supporters into a lather--as she convinces them that they are all victims.
What a complete disgrace.
This is a spectacle and a real embarrassment to our party and also to women.
I've never seen anything like it.
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Wed May-28-08 04:26 PM
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18. Good news. (Wasn't this a no brainer?) |
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Wed May-28-08 04:32 PM
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20. They're making a mockery of 2000 & actual disenfranchisement. |
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Edited on Wed May-28-08 04:36 PM by rucky
Now when we stand up to actual funny business, we can be more easily dismissed as "those Democrats" who complain when things don't go our way.
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Wed May-28-08 04:34 PM
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21. That's good news! n/t |
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Wed May-28-08 05:07 PM
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23. Local news..DiMaio heartbroken, Steinberg upset...their supporters "disenfranchised" |
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It was truly a pity party on the news. If I hear the word disenfranchised one more time from this bunch I will scream.
They were all feeling so sorry for themselves. And the media giving them coverage for their self pity.
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Wed May-28-08 07:25 PM
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25. Is this why the past couple days there have been so many topics about '00 and how |
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this is just like when so many Floridians were disenfranchised?
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Wed May-28-08 08:09 PM
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26. I don't think this is a waste of time and energy at all |
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Seems too many are too ignorant of the rules, and too many rules are woefully inadequate. All the shit that gets stirred now may help us down the road.
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Wed May-28-08 08:58 PM
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27. Why is Senator Nelson getting involved with this crappola? |
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He should be more concerned with what is going on in Washington rather than this junk.
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