Obama's Doctor reports his Blood pressure is 90 over 60 and AGAIN, the MSM is NOT doing it's job!

[Up2Late]

90 over 60 is NOT "normal!" 90 over 60 is a warning sign of a weak or possibly failing heart! Especially if he "...sometimes runs three miles."

It may be normal for him, but it's not "normal."

Outcome <http://www.aurorahealthcare.org/yourhealth/healthgate/getcontent.asp?URLhealthgate=%2233265.html%22>

Blood pressure readings vary depending on a number of factors, including age. A range of values defines normal blood pressure.

* A blood pressure reading of less than 90 over 60 may be considered too low.
* A blood pressure less than 120 over 80 is considered normal.
* A blood pressure between 120-139 over 80-89 is classified as prehypertension, according to the 2003 guidelines of the National High Blood Pressure Education Program.
* Having several accurate blood pressure readings that are consistently 140 over 90 or higher is diagnostic of hypertension.

Now, when I was running in High School (running 8 to 10 miles per day) and later in my 30s when I ran 6 to 8 miles per day, I had a normal "Runners" blood pressure of 120 over 80 or 110 over 70, 90 over 60 is very low.

And a ONE Page, Six paragraph summery that covers 20 years? They call it a "...complete summary?" What the hell? Talk about no transparency.

Now I'm sure Obama's DU attack squad is already pre-judging me as an "Obama hater" because my sig line doesn't carry the mark of the beast like just about every other one of his "supporters" here, and I'll admit, I'm not a supporter of his, but I don't hate the guy, and I don't want to elect a guy President (a much more stressful job than is the job of a U.S. Senator) who has got a weak heart and might have to either get a heart transplant while in office, or have to step down due to a failing heart mid-term or worse, but I don't think I have to explain that one.

Come on, Obama people, get tough with your guy and tell him that if he's going to play the "releasing medical records" game, then release Medical Records, not some BS note from his doctor. :mad:

And you don't have to take my word for it, the Bloomberg.com writers actually interviewed a Doctor with an opposing view point, look at what he said:

...Obama's one-page health summary contrasts with the 1,173 pages of medical records that were opened up last week by the presumptive Republican nominee, Senator John McCain of Arizona, who is 71.

Scheiner's six-paragraph letter, addressed ``to whom it may concern,'' was woefully inadequate, said Seth Feltheimer, an associate clinical professor of medicine at Columbia University Medical Center in New York.

Incomplete

``If someone said to me, `Please send my insurance company the results of my yearly exam and history and physical,' this would be very incomplete, and they wouldn't even insure him,'' Feltheimer said in a telephone interview today.

The report didn't say whether Obama has ever been hospitalized or had surgery, colonoscopies, lung exams, stress tests, chest x-rays, thyroid function tests or prostate examinations, Feltheimer said....

<http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aAbKnqN_7bQU&refer=home>

I'm going to bed, it's starting to get light here.

[CreekDog]

1. wrong! and you lose your privileges to interpret medical data for us

from WebMD:

"In healthy people, especially athletes, low blood pressure is a sign of good cardiovascular (heart and blood vessel) health. But low blood pressure can be a sign of an underlying problem -- especially in the elderly -- where it may cause inadequate blood flow to the heart, brain, and other vital organs.

The basics on low blood pressure from WebMD.

Chronic low blood pressure is almost never serious. But health problems occur when blood pressure drops suddenly, and the brain is deprived of an adequate blood supply. This can lead to dizziness or lightheadedness. It most commonly occurs in someone who's rising from a prone or sitting position to standing. This kind of low blood pressure is known as postural hypotension, orthostatic hypotension, or neurally mediated orthostatic hypotension."

[Honeycombe8]

14. I have a tendency to have lbp. Dr. told me low is fine. The only time low is bad is....

when your bp is not normally low and then goes low quickly. That's what happens when a person faints.

But if a person's bp is consistently low, that may be the norm for that person, and that is a good thing.

[beac]

110. Me too, indie.

If fact, my whole family has lovely, low blood pressure and we tend to live into our early 90's.

And if being in the White House hasn't killed off Darth Cheney, there's little chance it can really do in anyone.

After all, they have the best FREE health care in the country!

[truedelphi]

111. Exactly. And the other thing abt low bl pressure is to mention it to any new drs.

So when they prescribe meds, they don't prescribe meds that as a side effect lower your blood pressure even more.

And men should always keep that in mind when using Rogaine -w hich causes a lot some with low pressure to have dangerously low BP.

[JerseygirlCT]

118. Me too.

I remember even when pg, it was quite low. The nurses in the dr's office joked about it. But I've been told it's perfectly healthy.

There can sometimes be some effects - like dizziness when standing up very suddenly - but I'll take that over the dangers of HPB!

[Maine-ah]

144. same here Jersey

I have always had relatively low bp, even while I was preggers.

[K Gardner]

27. This post is nothing but CRAP. Now its BP_GATE !???

[Up2Late]

33. Did you even read what you posted ? It makes no sense, because it directly contradicts it's self

Read it again, "...low blood pressure is a sign of good cardiovascular (heart and blood vessel) health. But low blood pressure can be a sign of an underlying problem..."

It makes no sense because it leaves out a few critical words, like the word "very" or "too," Now lets add in the missing word:

"...low blood pressure is a sign of good cardiovascular (heart and blood vessel) health. But VERY low blood pressure can be a sign of an underlying problem..."

All I'm saying is that the One page note from his Doctor is Bullsh*t and we need to ask some more questions be we just take one Doctor's opinion on this, because you know what you call the Doctor who graduates from medical school at the bottom of his class? Doctor, that's what.

Obviously, Ignorance is bliss for the rest of the Obama attack squad, who will now tell me I have no answer and attack me for not answering each and everyone of their questions, and I don't plan to, because I don't have that much time to waste today an stupid back and forth nonsense, so I'll just say it to you, ASK QUESTIONS!

You Obama people are already acting like year 2000 "Bushies" with your "he'll be fine" attitude, but take it from a guy who's the same age as him, this is the age that ignored medical problems begin to come back to bite you.

Tell the guy you want to see results of a stress test (tread mill), hell, even I've done that.

Also, I've been working on my family genealogy, and you want to guess what the average age was in my family for men who "died suddenly" (NY Times, 1920-1950s code for a Heart Attack usually)? Usually at about age 50 to 55.

See, this is exactly why we non-Obama supporters fear what's is happening with all of you, we've seen this pattern too many times over the last 30 years and it never ends well.

[ieoeja]

37. "... in the elderly" n/t

[msallied]

41. You have no proof he has medical problems.

And your post seems to contradict itself a lot. I read it three times and I honestly can't tell who or what you are advocating.

[Up2Late]

53. YES, And Neither do you! ASK HIM!

That's ALL, Why are you so fearful of asking him for a more complete answer? JUST ASK HIM.

Final answer, I'm not wasting any more time on all you starry-eyed fools.:mad:

[msallied]

58. We've provided you with information, both official and anecdotal, that refutes your claims.

Nuff said.

[Indenturedebtor]

67. Wow you've really looked into this. Im impressed!

Or not...

Pitiful.

[The Doctor.]

104. Starry-Eyed? Just for having the audacity to question your VERY tenuous point?

90/60 is possibly indicative of many things, MOST of them good;

The only bad causes for LBP off the top of my head;

Congestive heart failure. - uhhh... the cardiogram or stress test would have figured that out if his fainting and inability to stand didn't give it away.

Hypovolemia; He has low blood volume because he doesn't drink enough fluid or has internal hemorrhaging.

- Not in the diagnosis, again... standing would be difficult.

Sudden vasodilation; Ummm... there's that fainting thing again. Luckily nicotine fixes that. :smoke:

-The thing is, those would result in deadly LBP.

Now, here's who has naturally low blood pressure;

Olympic Athletes... such as swimmers, runners, and bicyclists.
Those who meditate and eat properly.
Those with advanced coping mechanisms for stress.
Hannibal Lecter... who fits two of the above criteria.


As the report included none of the indicators of malady, your projections are very inane.

[Bigleaf]

43. Holy Fuck! The only time low BP is bad is when it's so low that your fucking heart isn't beating.

High BP is another thing altogether.

[CreekDog]

52. Signs can indicate multiple things

but low blood pressure is more likely in the non elderly, to be a sign of good health rather than poor health.

[carpetbagger]

96. It's healthcare PR/lay lit, not the Bible. 90/60's great.

That's why they call it a J-shaped curve. Because you die less. Yes, there are a large number of medical illnesses that cause hypotension. But...

Name one of them where the patient can keep up in a pickup game with the Tarheels. Name one.

And yeah, I'm a boarded, licensed physician as well, and yeah, it's a specialty that treats this stuff all day long. My license is even from a state that Clinton won easily, so I guess it counts.

Game. Set. Match.

[The Doctor.]

106. I'll tell you what it means...

When he went for his physical, he hadn't yet had his coffee or cigarette. He is otherwise in good health with a tolerance for nicotine, but in the morning his BP will be low until that first smoke or nicorette.

[carpetbagger]

107. Touche. I've also heard scotch is good for keeping it up.

Maybe we could find a candidate who can belt a few back....

[The Doctor.]

120. That would depend.

Alcohol is a vasodilator. Consistent use by a healthy person will temporarily reduce BP while being used... but not significantly. Alcohol also has other effects that can shift metabolism in other ways. As a person uses alcohol for longer periods, their BP will slowly rise unless they have a very good exercise and dietary regimen.

Nicotine is a substance that does the opposite. Greater tolerance in a healthy person will result in a lower basal BP in the morning. The effects of nicotine on dopamine, serotinin, and all kinds of psysiologically triggered responses is really complicated, far moreso than alcohol. It is really complicated, but so far we know why smokers need a puff first thing in the morning; They can't function without getting the BP up.

[Peacetrain]

105. You might want to check out runners digest

My husband is a runner..and his bp is low.. by the way.. the latest medical news on bps.. 120/80 is too high.. Senator Obama has a much healthier bp..

[roseBudd]

119. You are trying to tell us we should be worried about sudden death in a 46 year old man

because the sudden death of a 46 year old POTUS from heart disease is...

I give up, what are the odds?

:shrug:

[jpertello]

2. MY BP

Is also 90/60. I have been told I am extremely lucky to have this BP. It's normal for me. I've always had naturally low BP and never felt faint or dizzy or have a "failing heart". Every person has a different normal BP.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

76. exactly

[mod mom]

113. I too have 90 over 60's and am in good health. It is normal for me. I've never had a doctor

concerned in fact just the opposite, they are usually impressed with my numbers.

[hokies4ever]

3. Sorry, but your hitjob on Obama fell flat

:rofl:

[JoFerret]

6. Hit job or whatever

And I have zero info on BP.

However, the contrast between the one page summary and the health tome was amusing.

Personally - I think this is over intrusive.

[Hippo_Tron]

35. LMAO Bloodpressuregate

:rofl:

[casus belli]

4. Utterly, totally, completely off base

90 over 60 is perfectly normal for some people. In the absense of other symptoms or complications, there is absolutely nothing out of the ordinary with his blood pressure.

So are we in "If there isn't a story I'll make up my own" mode now?

[Brundle_Fly]

109. remembering the doctor added

He is VERY healthy.

[democracy1st]

5. OK so John McCain is healthier than Obama,WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO BELIEVE THAT

:wtf: is wrong with you people

[Ian David]

7. According to the report, Obama's sperm count is normal, highly motile, semi-sweet. n /t

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

42. I'm sending you a bill for that keyboard

:spray:

[NatBurner]

55. lol

[Tarheel_Dem]

132. ROTFLMAO.......

:spray:

[DangerousRhythm]

8. Step away from the Web MD, Dr. Up2Late.

:rofl:

Seriously though, this is just silly.

[Aloha Spirit]

9. Haha 120/80 is "Runners" blood pressure? I laugh in your direction.

[msallied]

45. Exactly. lmao!

[RandiFan1290]

10. Flail

[woodsprite]

11. Also 120/80 **USED** to be considered normal. It isn't anymore.

and Docs watch you very carefully now with a consistent reading of 120/80.

[Tarheel_Dem]

133. That is not good news for me b/c my norm is 120/80, and yes I'm

a smoker. I was always told this was good, now I'm sad. :(

[canucksawbones]

12. the definition of low blood pressure

is blood pressure that is low enough to be symptomatic.

90/60 is a fantastic blood pressure and offers the benefit of decreased risk of end organ damage to the heart, brain, and kidneys. I noted he has an excellent pulse as well. It shows that Mr. Obama is exceedingly fit.

GK (an MD)

[caseycoon]

13. NO WAY!

My BP is the same & I have no problems at all. My doctor is delighted!
90/60 is still in normal range.

[DevonRex]

15. My blood pressure is 90/60 routinely. It's normal for me. It's

normal for all my siblings, too.

Fail.

[Zynx]

16. That's about what my blood pressure is when I am fully healthy.

[Douglas Carpenter]

17. ABSOLUTE NONSENSE!!!! A blood pressure like that is more of a positve sign that a negative

ANYONE with even a cursory knowledge of health care matters know that.

[Bucky]

18. its

no apostrophe

[Ganja Ninja]

19. "less than 90 over 60 may be considered too low"

Do the words "less" and "may" mean anything to you?

90 over 60 is a very healthy blood pressure and indicates he is in excellent cardiovascular condition.

[msallied]

47. Exactly. I had an epidural once and my BP dropped to 85 over something

and I nearly fainted. That was too low for me.

[rebel with a cause]

70. Mine fell so low that I could have died ( 50)

but that was because I was being over medicated for my a-fib heart. Now you want to talk about things being normal/abnormal. My normal body temperature is around 97.2 and always has been, and at 98.6 I feel like I am burning up. What is normal for some is not normal for all.

[msallied]

79. Hey! Same here!!

My core body temp is about a degree below the average. When I had strep throat a couple weeks ago, I was running a temp of 98.9 and thought it was a lot higher. Chills, etc. It was horrible.

[rebel with a cause]

83. Doesn't it suck to have that happen

Nobody recognizes that you are feverish, when it is only .2 above what they see as normal. Let it get up in 100s and you are really in distress. We should get a doctor's statement that we are special. ;)

[msallied]

86. Damn straight! We're special! lol The nurse who took my temp was like

"you're not running much of a fever." As I was curled on a ball shaking on the examining table. Guess I was faking it or something. lol Luckily my doctor knew the real deal. Highest temp I ever had was 102 with the flu and I never felt so close to wanting to die. Fevers are the worst.

[rebel with a cause]

101. 102 is the same here

and yes I thought I would die. Drove myself to the hospital (because my then husband would not) stopping every few minutes because my throat was swollen shut and I could not swallow. They laid me down, gave me shots and kept me until my fever went down and my throat opened a little. When I got home, he was upset because I had been gone so long. Such a lovely fellow. :P

[nvme]

20. the image of white knuckles

desperately gripping the sides of a very deep hole come to mind as i read this hack job. Please don't play the fear card;It's beneath contempt. McCain's records reflect an older man's history with melanoma.

[Teaser]

21. GO RED WINGS!!!!

.

[JTFrog]

22. Who let the fucking dittoheads out again? I swear, can't you leave you guys alone for a minute. n/t

[Bluenorthwest]

23. Wish those were my numbers

The Senator is virtually the same age as I am. I'm running a tad high...Obama's numbers sound great to me. High BP is a concern for all people, but I am sure others can back me up that it is of special concern to African Americans, especially men. So actually, the low numbers are extra fantastic. I'm envious. It sounds to me like the Senator knows how to take care of himself and does so.
Does McCain have blood pressure at all? Low or high? Measurable in any way? I mean, to have blood pressure, you have to have a heart, right?

[ekwhite]

24. Sorry dude, you lose at trolling

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

[K Gardner]

25. You are absolutely FULL OF IT. Take this from a Board Certified Health

Professional who knows how to recognize immediately the normal v abnormal in VS.

What you have here is a bunch of MALARKY.. so take it to some RW blogspot or perhaps back to the Hillary Forum.

[Clark2008]

26. I have low blood pressure and there's nothing wrong with me.

The ONLY time it was a concern was when it kept dropping while I was in labor.

Other than that, the doctor thinks it's absolutely wonderful.

[frickaline]

28. When I first read this, I thought you were joking

90/60 is excellent health.

If you want to make health an issue, try attacking the 71 year old instead. You might be able to build a better case there.

[Max_powers94]

29. I wish my BP was that :(

[nolabels]

64. This whole thing seems comical to me

I thought the thread was going to be about Hilary supporters needing to attack him more because they were not even getting a rise in his blood pressure :rofl:

[RichardRay]

30. Can I trade?

I'm borderline hypertensive. I'd love to have that BP, and my physician would love me to have it, too!!

[Marie26]

31. Nope

That's my BP, & there's nothing wrong w/it. It just means that you can faint if you get up too quickly. It's really not a big deal & certainly not a reason not to vote for Obama.

[calmblueocean]

32. Should've led with the second piece instead of the first.

I doubt very much that Obama is unhealthy, but his refusal to release his health records and instead substitute a single six-paragraph letter feels almost Cheneyish to me. My concern is that Obama might be another president who clings to secrecy and refuses to release or works to obscure access to records the public is entitled to.

He has to know that a letter like this really doesn't cut it, and when someone gives you an obviously inadequate solution and then tells you the problem is solved, it makes people wonder. Stupid of him not to outdo McCain in the record transparency department.

If you'd led with that aspect of it, you might have had a better reception.

[msallied]

51. He will probably release those things when he's the official nominee.

[anonymous171]

34. Defend McCain, that's the ticket.

[BellaLuna]

36. 120/80 is considered borderline these days

While 90/60 may be low for most it is not uncommon to have it be 'normal' for some. Many other health factors apply to one's overall health.

IF the low pressure was causing weakness, dizziness or other symptoms - don't you think he would be treated for it??


non-issue

[msallied]

38. You don't know a damn thing. Tell me you're not a doctor.

Because if you are, your patients must be warned. OBama's blood pressure is just fine.

[Bright Eyes]

39. Come on.

You can do better. If all you can do is bash Obama, maybe next time you can bring up Wright again?

[TZ]

40. "some bs note from a doctor.."

As opposed to some bs OP from a non-medical professional? Golly gee I loves them Dr. Googles who think reading crap on the internet is a good substitution for 10+ years of education.
BTW, I have a biology degree and hypertension and 120/80 is NOT great.

[msallied]

44. And for the record, most of my family has consistently low BP like that.

They are healthy as horses. I myself have about 100/65, and I'm even overweight. If you know what blood pressure is and what it's a function of, and when you understand that Barack Obama is a pretty athletic, level-headed guy, this is a very good place for him to be.

[HannibalBarca]

46. Nonsense

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. I swear some of the nonsensical ramblings I see on here really make me question how much more enlightened this place is in comparison with free republic etc.
I'm a pharmacist and 90/60 is not abnormal nor is 120/80 the blood pressure you would find in everyone here, thats why typically diastolic and systolic and quoted in ranges and even these are subject to the characteristics of the particular individual. An olympic level athlete can have 90/60 with a pulse rate at rest of 50-55 due to their excellent physical conditioning, Obama looks like he is in very good condition.

[phrigndumass]

48. Are you wanting to slime Obama, or protect McCain?

It's either one or the other, because Hillary already lost.

What's the point of this OP?

[Faygo Kid]

49. "Mark of the beast" but you don't "hate" him. BS.

Most desperate post of the Millenium thus far.

Get out of the way. We're electing a president here.

[dchill]

50. "the MSM is NOT doing it's job!"

I agree with that single statement alone. The rest of this OP is uninformed, misleading, and not surprisingly, asinine.

[Occam Bandage]

54. 120/80 is the upper limit of normal. Sorry about your high blood pressure.

[depakid]

56. The so called "mainstream" media's job is to elect Republicans

which conversely, will hasten the decline of the American empire....

[dionysus]

57. out of the thousands of shillbotthreads, this might be the weakest of them all...

[Blue_In_AK]

59. Oh, please...

I've had 90 over 60 blood pressure for years, and I'm completely healthy, even at the advanced age of 61. I walk about 20 miles a week, I have no health issues except a managed thyroid, and I haven't been to the doctor for anything else for so long I don't even have a family physician. You're grasping at straws here.

[DerekJ]

60. MORON :* A blood pressure reading of less than 90 over 60 may be considered too low. LESS THAN .

FUCK AGAIN: LESS THAN

[CreekDog]

61. i was going to point this out too

:hi:

[not_too_L8]

62. wrong! it means he has a very efficient circulatory system

[Swamp Rat]

63. Paging Dr_eldritch, Dr_eldritch.... Paging Dr_eldritch.

I bet Hillary's blood pressure went WAY up after two more SD's pledged to Obama today. :D

[The Doctor.]

75. Frankly, I'm amazed

that any Presidential candidate could have such great BP. This tells me that he works out regularly, and he has marvelous mechanisms for coping with stress. Specifically; He doesn't feel any.

Unless he's on medication (which it didn't say), I'd surmise that he's not only a man who feels he has little to lose, but he's also one who plans thoroughly... as though he plans from the outcome to the present, and has a great deal of faith in his ability to improvise.

The most effective people are those who operate without anxiety.

Think 'Hannibal Lecter', only more policy-oriented and less inclined to eat his enemies.

Given what I know of him so far, I'd put his measurable intelligence pretty high up there.

[msallied]

80. You know, I read in his book Audacity of Hope that he is not one to get worked up about much.

He's a very thoughtful and deliberate person and he doesn't have reactionary tendencies at all. He seems almost Buddha-like in his ability to handle the asshats surrounding him. lol

[JerseygirlCT]

122. Oh man

I guess that's means I'm not very effective!

[The Doctor.]

127. No... lol....

Anxiety is a great motivator. Most people who live without anxiety tend to be too 'laid back' to be considered 'highly effective'. But there are a rare few who are both motivated and free from anxiety... these are people to take very seriously... even if they seem quite easy-going.

Take Ghandi, Einstein, Ozymandias from "The Watchmen", and Hannibal Lecter, for instance. (I can't think of too many RL examples... but they're out there.)

[Swamp Rat]

136. "Laid back" is my name.

:D

[CreekDog]

123. in all fairness, Hillary has recently gained 3 delegates

[Writer]

65. 90 over 60?

Give that man a bag of potato chips! Physically fit people need not become presidents. We like them tubby. Like Ulysses S. Grant tubby.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

90. Give me Grover Cleveland Tubby!

[grantcart]

66. goddamn post raised my bp 30 points

[thoughtcrime1984]

68. Well, when "something happens" to our candidate, I'm sure yours will be ready on day one

Time to brand "the mark of the beast" on you, get over here! Pathetic. Is this in Hil's blogger manifesto, to go after low blood pressure?

[Mojorabbit]

69. Oh for heavens sake

I run a 90 over 50 and have for 40 years. It is perfectly normal. Everyone has their own baseline norms. As a retired nurse I have to say this post is a bunch of hooey.

[Critters2]

71. Really? That's typically where my bp is, and my doctor is pleased as punch.

And I feel fine, thanks.

Even with a heart murmur, my doc isn't worried about my bp.

But thanks for the input, Dr. Frist. :)

[aquarius dawning]

72. Yeah, that's actually ~ 10 mm/hg too low on both the systolic and the diastolic side

I would expect to see those pressures on someone taking diuretics, beta blockers, calcium channel blockers, etc or in someone with low blood/fluid volume due to chronic or acute processes.

[msallied]

81. Wow. And yo'ure basing this on your unwavering devotion to Hillary, I have no doubt.

Because when it comes to medical FACT, you're wrong.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

Thanks, Dr. Frist. But even the OPs source says LESS than 90/60 followed by "may".

[canucksawbones]

98. wrong

again, low blood pressure is defined as a blood pressure that is low enough to cause symtoms. Mr. Obama doesn't seem to be fainting with his rigorous schedule. He also has an excellent pulse, normal cholesterol levels, is physically fit and has no excess fat.

In other words he is very fit and his BP and Pulse are excellent indications of that.

I wish more of my patients had the excellent health that Mr. Obama presents with

GK (MD)

[XemaSab]

73. Some people have naturally low blood pressure

Mine's often about 100/60, and yes, the doctor says it's low and I should eat more salt. My grandma has similarly low blood pressure.

It happens. :shrug:

[kwenu]

74. Stop drinking the haterade. Please.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

77. what a weird post

[sniffa]

78. Are you fucking daft?

Have a good nap - your brain needs it. :hug:

[Barack_America]

82. Oh Jesus, have we finally sunk to "Too Good of Health-Gate"?

God help us.

[msallied]

84. No, I think it's "He has a weak heart! I'm SERIES!!!@11!! gate

[dailykoff]

85. The Clintons go ballistic on him and Barack has low blood pressure.

The irony is too too rich. :rofl:

[msallied]

87. The dude is cool as a cucumber.

Of course, President Bush had really good blood pressure and a resting pulse rate of 55 or something... his cardiovascular system was compared to Michael Jordan's. Of course, this is likely in his case to be due to the fact that there is no blood being directed to his brain, so his heart doesn't have to work as hard.

[Joe the Revelator]

88. Its unbelievable how wrong you are on this subject

As a person with high blood pressure, I can assure you, per my doctor, that having a 90/60 bp is NOT a bad thing. My wife has this BP and its what my doctor has told me to strive for. As far as it being a harbinger for a failing heart, that is just completely laughable. It IS a sign of an efficient healthy heart.

[msallied]

94. Exactly. There are SO many other signs of a failing heart.

Namely edema, bad kidneys, being constantly tired, pale complexion, bad respiration, etc.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

89. This is so lame, I have to K&R it. I would have thought it was satire.

Thanks for the laugh.

[michaz]

91. You need to see a doctor, your blood pressure must be up! n/t

[Milo_Bloom]

92. Its perfectly normal.

My fiance has run about 85/55 her entire life.

[GoesTo11]

93. The media has been trying to do its job.

They keep trying to raise his blood pressure, but he's just too damn cool.

[Emillereid]

95. Horse-hockey!

"Systolic blood pressure for most healthy adults falls between 90 and 120 millimeters of mercury (mm Hg). Normal diastolic blood pressure falls between 60 and 80 mm Hg. Current guidelines define normal blood pressure as lower than 120/80."
http://www.medicinenet.com/low_blood_pressure/article.htm

My 23 year old daughter has the same blood pressure as Barack -- and yeah, she's a runner. Did a marathon a few months back and easily runs 13- 15 miles. TOTALLY HEALTHY!

[NC_Nurse]

97. That is complete and utter horseshit.

He's got great BP, wish mine was still at those numbers.

[The Doctor.]

100. It's doable...

What do you do for exercise? Granted, to get there you have to have a strict regimen, but if you have something you can do regularly, you can get to LBP.

[quakerboy]

99. Actually

Thats not all that low. Compared to most track runners of my acquaintance, thats a bit high. so, given that he is a healthy and somewhat athletic person, it sure looks normal to me. Just because many of us Americans are overweight and in bad shape does not mean that he has to be.

[mckeown1128]

102. lol blood-pressure-gate....lol

this place gets funnier and funnier every night.

[Danger Mouse]

103. You are a silly person. Now go away before I taunt you a second time.

[The Doctor.]

108. You have no idea what you're talking about...

A healthy smoker will wake up with low BP until he has his first fix... then he'll go back to 'normal' again.

Learn a few things before trying to incite panic.

[JerseygirlCT]

124. Never knew that...

interesting. My dad's had some sporadic problems with fainting, since his dr. finally got rough with him over his smoking. If he'd succeeded in abstaining for a while (as in hours, not weeks) would that have created a drop in bp that contributed to feeling faint?

[The Doctor.]

125. After a few days,

the body will start to stabilize.

Lower dopamine and serotonin levels can lead to irritability, thus raising the blood pressure. (neat, huh?)

The first hours and days can see all kinds of withdrawal symptoms. The most pronounce being those that would otherwise be alleviated by the most direct effects of nicotine.

I wish your dad luck, the first two weeks are the worst.

[JerseygirlCT]

138. Thanks, Dr.

He never quite made it, and is back to smoking - less, but still smoking.

He's been good about diet, and lost enough weight to keep the blood sugar right. But he tried, and just couldn't kick, that habit. I think he's been smoking since his mid-teens, and he's now in his mid-70s - that's a long habit!

But he had a few episodes of fainting while he was being serious about trying. They finally chalked it up to low bp, and what you said struck a chord with that!

[Triana]

112. As for the BP: BIG DEAL! MY blood pressure is often low too...

...very much so. THAT is not an issue. What is an issue is when/if it is HIGH.

[grannylib]

114. "mark of the beast" ???? And you don't think that's inflammatory?

And somebody "actually interviewed a Doctor with an opposing viewpoint."
Wow. How impressive. Did this Doctor examine Obama? Did he even have a videotape, so he could diagnose him based on that, a la Bill Frist??

I really am starting to feel sorry for those of you who seem to be losing your grasp on the straws.

[NEDem]

115. Get a life.

[Crunchy Frog]

116. Better vote for McCain then. He's got all the health and vitality you're looking for.

[Maven]

117. OH MY GOD

I can't believe we're arguing over blood pressure now and what it means to the election.

[The Doctor.]

128. I'm so sorry for your family.

I actually did wonder if he was a poster here and you were he. I suppose not... unless you have some great angeltech. O8)

RIP Great Entertainer.

[JerseygirlCT]

139. He was, wasn't he?

I loved watching those Carol Burnett shows as a kid. I always lost it just along with him... that was the funniest part!

[JoFerret]

121. I DON'T CARE about BO's blood pressure

nor any other aspect of his health record.

So effing intrusive.

[central scrutinizer]

126. another 90 over 60 DUer here

This is ridiculous. I am 58 years old with 90/60 BP and I have no trouble doing 60 mile bike rides with several thousand feet of climbing involved.

[AngryOldDem]

129. Another one with low blood pressure....

...still kickin'.

[The Doctor.]

130. Where do you live?

I just pulled out my old Trek 460... poor thing.

The shimano components held up great, all I had to do was spray it down, adjust the derailers to get all the gears back, and replace a tube. I'm doing the Tour de Cure tomorrow, but only 16 miles... so far that hasn't been a problem even after 5 years of not riding.

But we have no hills out here.

[central scrutinizer]

145. eugene oregon

If you go north there are no hills, but if you go any other direction and look for them, there's lots of climbing to do.

[graywarrior]

131. Mine is 90 over 68

He's healthy.

[undeterred]

134. Screening Colonoscopy is not recommended until age 50

and prostate exam is not either.

Should he go in and have unnecessary tests for health issues for which he has no symptoms? That is wasteful.

I am over 50 and my blood pressure is usually 90/60. I've never had a doctor tell me that was cause for concern- to the contrary. Its good to have low blood pressure, although it will usually rise with age.

Obama is a healthy man. Good for us.

[aquarius dawning]

143. You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about nor do 90% of the people posting about this

[amandabeech]

135. One page?

I hope that he's getting the rest together because if McCain has released over 1,000 the press and the Pubbies will be screaming for full disclosure.

Remember Bill Clinton? Everyone looking for STDs and weirdly leaning penises?

The scream will be, "WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO HIDE?"

I'm not looking forward to the fall.

[grytpype]

137. :eyes:

[book_worm]

140. So what's Hillary's BP? oh yeah, she hasn't released that.

[Mother Of Four]

141. Oh come on :/

All it means is that if he ever has to take a nitrate based medicine, or another form of Vasodilator (One that works on the tunica media of the vessels opening them up and giving more "Space" for the blood to flow- Think taking the same amount of water but changing it to a bigger glass.) that the Dr has to know about his typical BP and he would have to be monitored closely to make sure he doesn't bottom out. 90 over 60 wouldn't even make me blink in the back of the Amb if the person I was getting the medical hx from told me that was a typical pressure for the pt. The only time it would make me uptight is if the BP was much lower than their usual.

(I didn't read responses so forgive me if this is a dupe, just consider it a confirmation)

(Edited to add, with a BP like that I can't think of a reason for him to ever have to take any form of Vasodilator anyway.)

[Medusa]

142. I have a very low BP too. Mine has been that low.

and my doctors have told me that one thing was for sure: low blood pressure won't hurt or kill you. And I can assure you that no insurance company has ever refused to cover me becaue of my low bp. More hysterical blathering by a Hillbot.