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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:07 AM
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Nancy Pelosi says she will step in if necessary...
... make sure the presidential nomination fight between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama does not reach the Democratic National Convention - though she believes it could be resolved as early as next week.

Pelosi predicted Wednesday that a presidential nominee will emerge in the week after the final Democratic primaries on June 3, but she said "I will step in" if there is no resolution by late June regarding the seating of delegates from Florida and Michigan, the two states that defied party rules by holding early primaries.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/28/MNQE10V1UL.DTL&type=politics



Do you think this is a good idea?

I like the idea of ending the battle, but to reduce animosity between the Clinton and Obama camps it may be better to let it play out.




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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:32 AM
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1. Get it over with.
It's played out for months now and the only thing to change is Obama's lead getting bigger. I think we've been patient, but it wears thin. The animosity will be what it is.......and depends on how bad we want a dem in the oval office.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:35 AM
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2. I Don't Think It's a Good Idea At All
To present the country and the Republicans with a public catfight.

"Anytime you see this much animosity between two women, there's probably a dick in there somewhere," a good friend once said to me. I think he was right.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:39 AM
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3. What the heck? Do you realize what a sexist comment that is?
So you think women only seriously disagree to the point of animosity, over men? Pfaw, as my darling departed MiL would have said. And the reference to a disagreement being a catfight? double pfaw.

I'm a woman. I have had serious disagreements with other women before. I have NEVER had a serious disagreement with another woman over a man.

Please think before you type something as offensively sexist and demeaning as your post is. I disagree with you frequently, but I KNOW you're better than that.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:52 AM
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5. Don't want to respond?
I think more people deserve to see the level of sexism uttered by a vocal Clinton supporter.
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:40 AM
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7. deleted
Edited on Fri May-30-08 12:16 PM by not_too_L8
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:04 PM
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8. Umm, pardon...WTF? I understand about the catfight (and don't think it's sexist" ...
Edited on Fri May-30-08 12:05 PM by PoliticalAmazon
but sure don't get the relevance of the quote.

This is just my experience with women (me being a woman, as well)...even if a man is involved, it's not over the man so much as it is a power struggle. The man is just the patsy.

Women, especially from my generation and before, have real issues with power. They don't go overtly for it, but use more subtle ways to exert their power.

I think some of the most vicious power struggles in a business environment that I've witnessed have been between women. A lot of it is something that probably only women would know what was going on, but some women in power struggles can take it to the personal-destruction level very early in the process.

Primates that exist in groups have power struggles. The more obvious one is for the alpha male position; that's because males, in general, just make a production out of everything they do. They are much more overt and physically violent than are women, in general.

But there are also struggles over the alpha female position, and the tactics are more subtle. Passive-aggressive snubs in grooming situations, denial of food or resources, sometime little slights of another female's offspring.

Anyway, I think men may like to think we fight over them, and it may look that way, but it really isn't true. And, if there is the odd occasion that it realy is over a man, it certainly would not be over his dick. For most women, dicks are available for free, anytime they want, and no man has a magical dick: if it works, the man is considerate and experienced, and doesn't pass on diseases, it is generally a win-win situation. The catfight might be about having access the the disputed male's resources, or having their own social position raised by being associated with him, or simply a territorial thing: "He's mine, you can't have him" type of thing.

Just my observations on catfights, men, and the unimportance of men's dicks in female power struggles.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:39 AM
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4. yes - end this thing already
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 10:02 AM
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6. not sure what step in really means, what power she has. I've heard that if Reed, Pelosi, and Gore
all come out and publicly endorse Obama together, they may help her to see the writing's on the wall.
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:20 PM
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9. She said ..
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...the party committee will come up with a formula that is "fair and accepted by both campaigns," perhaps allowing the states 50 percent of their delegates. But "if the resolution is not appropriate, then it remains for the (Democratic National Convention) credentials committee to resolve it," she said. Then, "it will have to happen by the end of June" or she will intervene, she said.
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