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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:58 PM
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WTF, MSNBC...cut this crap....
How many times have I read:

"McCain slams Obama"


vs.

"Obama accuses McCain"
"Obama criticizes McCain"
"Obama questions McCain"
"Obama states that McCain..."



Get the drift? The pictures is McCain Physically slamming, punching, pummelling Obama, where Obama is seen as "speaking". Politely. now, folks, WHO'S THE ALPHA MALE HERE?

See how they do it? It's really clever in the beginning...isn't it?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:01 PM
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1. Well, to be fair, Obama really shouldn't be slamming, pummeling, or bludgeoning
an old coot with physical limitations.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:08 PM
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5. He has to be careful about that.
McCain might slam Obama with his walker.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:13 PM
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6. "Why, you...c'mere, you little whippersnapper! "
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:01 PM
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2. The MSM is in the GOP's pocket remember?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:06 PM
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3. Actually, Obama needs to do this more.
John McCain is probably the first major-party nominee ever to promise war. Obama (and Clinton, I guess) should have relentlessly buried the motherfucker, but he's still walking around like some kind of legitimate candidate.

McCain is an easy target, but somebody's got to take the time to take him down.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:20 PM
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7. Obama has been firing back; his response isn't covered as much. From
today, after McCain's comments at the AIPAC meeting:

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/06/a_dangerous_and.html

June 02, 2008
"A Dangerous And Failed Foreign Policy"

Barack Obama campaign spokesman Hari Sevugan released this statement responding to John McCain's morning remarks to AIPAC in Washington:

“John McCain stubbornly insists on continuing a dangerous and failed foreign policy that has clearly made the United States and Israel less secure. Here are the results of the policies that John McCain has supported, and would continue. During the Bush Administration, Iran has dramatically expanded its nuclear program, going from zero centrifuges to more than 3000 centrifuges. During the Bush Administration, Iran has expanded its influence throughout a vitally important region, plying Hamas and Hezbollah with money and arms. During the Bush Administration, Hamas took over Gaza. Most importantly, the war in Iraq that John McCain supported and promises to continue indefinitely has done more to dramatically strengthen and embolden Iran than anything in a generation.

“Confronted with that reality, John McCain promises four more years of the same policies that have strengthened Iran, making the United States and Israel less safe. He promises to continue a war in Iraq that has emboldened Iran and strengthened its hand. He promises sanctions that the Bush Administration has been unable to persuade the Security Council to deliver. He promises a divestment campaign, even though he refused to sign on to Barack Obama's bipartisan divestment bill, refused to get his colleagues to lift an anonymous hold on the bill, and willfully ignores the fact that trade and investment between Iran and Iraq continue to expand. He stubbornly refuses to engage in aggressive diplomacy, ruling it out unconditionally as a tool of American power.

“Instead of recognizing reality, John McCain continues to run on a platform of doubling down on George Bush's failed policies, while carrying on his divisive brand of politics. The United States and Israel cannot afford four more years of an unwillingness to change course."
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:24 PM
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9. I don't think he should even bother to fire back.
Why debate a small child when you can just send him to his room?
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:13 PM
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11. Tell that to President Kerry!
ooops, you mean he lost? Impossible? How? they called him a coward and he didn't answer that? No! Really?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:36 PM
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12. I'm not talking about responding to attacks; I'm talking about
debating the insane.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:38 PM
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13. Anytime...anywhere...
insane or not.

We will take on all comers and vanquish them with our mighty sword of righteousness!!!

See, both sides can do that stuff...!
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:00 PM
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15. I don't think you understand.
I just want Obama to be the one framing the debate, not John McCrazy.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:13 PM
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17. I do understand...I really do...
I was just f-----g with you...

:hi:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:24 PM
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20. I can't tell anymore.
Once you stop taking yourself seriously, you forget that nobody ever did.

:hi:
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:21 PM
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22. understood...
I'm having trouble processing stuff as well these days. One thing I know is that Pat Buchanan's a prick. That's for certain.
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:07 PM
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4. Ignoring the issue of masculinity, I think it implies that the substance of McCain's criticisms
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 04:07 PM by ryanmuegge
are inherently more credible; like, "he had a factual basis on which he could slam Obama for his weaknesses on an issue."

MSNBC is an interesting network. You have "established," obvious right-wing hacks (who aren't designated as pundits, such as Russert and Mitchell, for example) and the most left-leaning personalities in the mainstream cable media - Abrams, Olbermann, and Maddow on the same station.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:22 PM
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8. The corporate media has been pretty good to Obama so far.
They have been pretty crappy to Clinton. In any case, we can fully expect that once Obama is the nominee officially, they are going to trash the crap out of him every chance they get. You are right that they are slowly but surely beginning to slant the coverage over the last few weeks. They have only just begun. The last thing they want is a Dem in the White House.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:26 PM
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10. Its been going on forever
I'm not sure how much is a conscious effort and how much is the result of the years of conscious effort that brought us to this point.
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urgk Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:57 PM
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14. "McCain gums Obama..leaving an almost perceptable bruise."
"McCain thwacks Obama with his walking stick."

"McCain tells Obama he's 'keeping the g-ddamn frisbee and anything else that comes over (his) fence."

"McCain pulls a quarter from behind Obaam's ear."

"McCain tells Obama to pull his finger."

"McCain mistakes Obama for the night nurse...pinches, then slaps his rump."
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:03 PM
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16. How's It Feel?
Just asking.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:14 PM
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18. How's it feel?
I suppose there's some sarcasm here...please enlighten me, since I'm not too smart, you know.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:40 PM
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21. I Doubt Your Claim Of Being "Not Too Smart"
But I will give you an honest answer.

I have seen this pattern before. The MSM builds up a candidate (usually a Dem), then "takes them down".
Kerry, Dean, Clark, and more. I see this happening already with Obama, and it is a predictable, repeated pattern.
This is my opinion, nothing more, nothing less.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:22 PM
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23. Thank you for your explanation
I wasn't processing well....see above.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:17 PM
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19. Way better than Reverend Wright..
I'm sure. Not even to the level of "Just words".
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:41 PM
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24. Oh this isn't surprising to anybody
Nobody expected Obama to get a free pass by the media. Especially after with all the lies they've repeated for Hillary these last 6 months.
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illberichtomorrow Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:56 PM
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25. MSNBC has also said that Obama "slammed" McCain


Obama slams Bush, McCain, on the economy:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23392288/
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:59 PM
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26. "McCain chases Obama off his lawn with a garden hose" nt
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 08:00 PM
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27. Barack wins the GE see how he does it.
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