Bush handler's have taken notice to Kerry's huge crowds and are worried

[59millionmorons]

"After worrying about their message, advertisements and grass-roots drive," President Bush's campaign "now has another concern on the horizon: the buzz generated by theatrical events, celebrity endorsements, and heavy supporter turnout on the other side, adding the glow of momentum to the Kerry campaign in a race that is locked in a statistical dead heat in most voter surveys," the Boston Globe reports.

"Kerry, with the help of an occasional rock star joining him on stage, has sustained crowds into the tens of thousands since the convention in Boston, in a few instances clearly dwarfing the ticketed events President Bush tends to hold. Kerry, with fewer security concerns than a sitting president, can throw open his doors in ways Bush cannot, giving him a logistical advantage in building big audiences."

The crowds "generate a persistent story line in the local media wherever he goes: that the Kerry camp is more open to members of the public."


http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/08/15/kerry_hopes_to_capitalize_on_buzz/

[Cha]

1. A Big FAT DUH!....out to the

"other side"!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

2. It's not a story line, it's true.

[klook]

13. Those two images

make a perfect metaphor for what's different between the Republicans and Democrats. Openness and populism vs. fear and elitism.

[Dover]

22. The White House has become a gated community....

Everyone inside has their very own underground bunkers!

[_NorCal_D_]

17. Outstanding images.

The bush photo in particular really emphasizes what his presidency has been all about.

[stevedeshazer]

27. Sweet jumped-up Jesus!

What are those Bush supporters in, a cattle car?

[kwolf68]

38. This image is UNREAL

Does anyone get chills seeing outstretched arms poking through bars hoping to get a shake the hand of the President?

That picture is absolutely priceless.

[Protected]

55. Wow.

That's pretty sad.

[Bonhomme Richard]

3. I can't believe the way they spin this.

"Kerry, with fewer security concerns than a sitting president, can throw open his doors in ways Bush cannot, giving him a logistical advantage in building big audiences."

Maybe the people like Kerry more. Ya think?

And maybe shrub is a coward and afraid to face the real public. Ya think?

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

6. Yeah, like "security" requires them to have nonregistered Repubs sign a

loyalty oath to attend a rally. Or check under people's shirts for Kerry or anti-Bush gear before an event.

Insecurity is more like it.

[Morning Dew]

29. was that "loyalty form" really used somewhere?

"do herby endorse George W. Bush for reelection of the United States".


LOL @ the typos.

[T Bone]

33. Bush himself probably wrote it up

that would explain all the grammatical errors on it.

[Hoping4Change]

42. And then vetted by the CIA.

[GalleryGod]

39. Shiite! They had a PICTURE of one...in our threads last night!

It's cheap,shitty, knock-off copy machine quality...BUT:think:

You DON'T get in without one!:crazy:

Your SpyB-) in the Faculty Lounge..Lookin' for Neocons,
GG:smoke:

[progressiveBadger]

53. Evidently yes...

In a New Mexico rally a few weeks ago if my memory serves.

[Cha]

7. I'm sure! they forgot to mention bush requires signatures

to get into his screened rallies.

Check how hard it was for this man to get into a bush rally..
"After riding a Bush bus to the quarry, Walz and the kids got off to go through the metal detectors and have their IDs checked. Bush officials took the kids aside and thoroughly inspected them. When one was discovered to have a Kerry sticker on his wallet, they were ordered back onto the bus.

...Walz listened. And made up his mind. On Wednesday, he was named Blue Earth County manager of the Kerry campaign. In case you have forgotten how America works, that does not make him disloyal. And no one can say he is not informed."

More at..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=67711

That has got to be one of the Biggest spins of the year~

[buycitgo]

12. beat me

like in Yurp, when WJC just went out into the CROWDS there?

or when dumbo went to pick your country, and they had whole ARMIES out to protect him from the adulation of the masses

what a load of fertiLIESer

[girl gone mad]

14. Also the way..

they give credit for the large crowds to the rock stars and other celebrities that occasionally show up on stage to give him support.

As if grown men and women are standing in line for five hours to catch a glimpse of Ben Affleck.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

16. They don't do it for his movies, that's for sure! n/t

[brainoverload]

56. It's a load, all right

In Portland there was a good 20 minutes of dead time between Bon Jovi's and Kerry's appearences. The crowd grew during that time.

[sandnsea]

15. Get this

Pubs in Portland were trying to spin it that Bush couldn't have an open event because of Portland's notorious protests. Really? Then explain New Mexico, Minnesota, Arizona...

[Hoping4Change]

41. Isn't it amazing what the come up with.

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. "locked in a statistical dead heat in most voter surveys"

This little piece is typical of almost all mainstream reporting. Although Kerry is clearly ahead and has every positive advantage, they make it sound like bush will probably win anyway.

[Cha]

8. They want him to win soooooooooo

Bad they can taste it..Success if they just keep on Spinning Spinning Spinning!

Tax cuts, don'cha know!

I hope they spin themselves out of a job.

[tcdv5]

37. You called it!

It's incredible how the press tries to make the race look tight. To sell more papers, I guess. A dead heat is a little hard for me to believe when half a million more people voted for Gore, Gore actually won FL and conservatives are defecting to Kerry's camp. Hubris is an amazing thing, and Bush is paying for it.

[progressiveBadger]

54. Yeah, I've been wondering about that.

I know a lot of people who voted for Bush four years ago. Many of them are voting for Kerry this year. But I have yet to hear about a person going the other direction. So putting this together with the fact that Gore won the popular vote... the only way Bush can win is if he cheats.

[wildeyed]

40. Don't forget to email the person

who wrote this story, call her on the lie.

I do it all the time, let the lazy bastards know we are paying attention.

Hello,
I wanted to make a comment about Anne E. Kornblut’s article "Kerry hopes to capitalize on 'buzz'". Although overall I found it to be an interesting and fair article, I question Kornblut's supposition that the "race that is locked in a statistical dead heat in most voter surveys." This is not true. Kerry is ahead in most surveys, often by 7 points. The only poll that I am aware of that puts Bush ahead is AP, and for whatever reason there polls always seem skewed toward Bush.

So although it makes better copy to say that Bush and Kerry are tied in polls, it is not true. Kerry is ahead. Please report the truth. Thank you for taking the time to read this.
xxxx

I sent it to the Globe. Does anyone know where to get reporter's email? I would like to send it to her directly.

[lancdem]

44. I was just about to mention that

Kerry is ahead in every poll this month except Gallup. Frankly, he's been ahead in almost all the national polls since he picked Edwards, and his state numbers are even better.

Josh Marshall noted in his blog that David Broder's piece saying Bush is in trouble could finally change the conventional wisdom among the talking heads, which has been insisting the race is even when all evidence points to the contrary.

[bobbieinok]

49. close polls make it harder to protest when elections are stolen

[Bluzmann57]

5. Security issues my ass

Maybe its because the Kerry campaign lets anyone in, where the bush campaign wants only the "right" kind of people. Case in point- When bush was here in Davenport, IA a couple of weeks ago, they searched a bunch of kids. All of them were black or hispanic. A father wanted to take his son in to see the president so that the kid could learn a lesson in civics. He learned all right, when his father got thrown out for wearing a Kerry button. There are a lot more incidents like these that mostly go unreported by the press. But people are spreading the word and attending Kerry rallies. I recently attended a Kerry rally, and it was impossible to get anywhere near him, so security is not an issue with bush, the openness of the rallies is.

[radfringe]

32. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa

gotta have "special security" so I can't have bigger crowds... :nopity:

special security or not - bush* has been holding staged photo-ops since he was 'selected' -- appearances are all attended by 'invitation only' or by other 'special screening' methods to ensure he has a standing ovation...

[Dover]

9. "....with fewer security concerns than a sitting president"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but has there EVER been an incumbent president who couldn't speak freely in public...at about the same level of security concern as Kerry has? Clinton, Gore, Carter, etc....even Reagan after the assassination attempt...were able to be in the public. I think even Bush's father was able to also (though I honestly don't remember because I ignored him).

No....the GOPers are not afraid of assassination so much as TERRIFIED of the truth...that their candidate will not be well received wherever he goes and that the media will have no choice but to show the discrepancies between reality and the BOGUS POLLS....

They have no choice if they want to maintain this illusion. To become more publicly accessible would reveal and magnify the unpopularity of Bush.

That may all change during the GOP convention in NYC...gonna be hard for the media to ignore THAT angry crowd.

[Cha]

10. Maybe there are some pictures out there

of Clinton and his crowds when he was running as an incumbant!?

[DemBones DemBones]

11. What a stupid excuse that is for low turnout at Bush* events.

Oh, presidential candidates have nothing to worry about -- just ask Robert F. Kennedy or George Wallace.

:grr: MORANS!

[opihimoimoi]

18. Team Bush are reduced to Delusion and Deception....

Nothing Poz ... all Neg.... and they are puzzeled?

All they have to do is look at the dummy they are "Selling" to realize they have a Loser on their hands////

[Dover]

20. YEAH...Fool us once shame on us....fool us twice shame on....

errr....shame on.......well he's just not gonna fool us again.

[opihimoimoi]

23. More and more Americans have "DUMMIED UP"

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

36. Good point! And it's the Democrats that have more

to worry about. Deaths and injuries from domestic terrorism have come from the right and the violent anti-abortionists, like Eric Rudolph, in the past 10 years. There's nothing comparable to that on the far left to threaten the Republicans.

[tblue37]

26. Oh, I don't know--

the media ignored millions of antiwar protesters, didn't they?

[stevedeshazer]

28. You've put your finger right on this media lie

Bill Clinton appeared in 1996 just a few blocks from where Kerry held his Portland rally of 40,000 people on Friday. He was obviously a sitting President that had no qualms about appearing in public. I was there, and there were no big security concerns, and no hiding in scripted settings. The rally was peaceful and large, although not nearly as large as Kerry's!

Republicans here like to say that the reason Bush can't appear here in a public forum is because so many radical hippies and anarchists and communists and socialists hate him. Funny, I didn't see any of that when Bob Dole appeared in 1996 at a public rally in Portland. I was there, too, and the rally was again peaceful, the Republicans were polite, and anyone could come.

Americans don't treat Republicans this way; they treat the Bush Crime Family this way. The media will never tell you that.

The media will also not acknowledge that this is happening all over the country.

NYC protesters will have to turn out in huge numbers to get cameras off McCain and Bush swapping spit on the convention floor.

[Skidmore]

35. Once a coward, always a coward...

Thats our Chimpy...

[bobbieinok]

50. toward the end Nixon only spoke at military bases

[vickie]

19. Finally some reporting on Kerry's massive crowds vs. the

Dim Son's prescreened, preplanned Goebbelesque gatherings. We need to see more stories like this, as well as stories about the loyalty oaths - which are particularly pathetic.

Vickie Carter
Redondo Beach, CA

[Dover]

21. I think they just keep moving the same busload of trained Bush supporters

around, from one campaign stop to the next. LOL!

[Zen Democrat]

24. I saw sitting President Clinton in HOUSTON at a 1996 rally ...

and there were NO security checks and Clinton got down in the crowd. My dad and I both shook his hand.

And Republican protestors in white shirts and ties were there with signs about Paula Jones and Abortion and Draft Dodger,etc. and nobody cared.

Bush is just scared shitless of the American people!

[NewJeffCT]

43. I don't think it's Bush

I think Bush's handlers (Rove, Hughes, etc) don't want to bother his royal highness with any possibilities of a negative thought. It might, heaven forbid, cause him to not sleep 10 hours at night or cut short a vacation.

[jwirr]

58. Or

he may start drinking again! If he is not already.

[mitchum]

25. Bush is a a quaking chickenshit

It has nothing to do with "security concerns" He can not handle criticism. Fuck him.

[elperromagico]

30. A POLITICIAN getting ROCK STAR SIZED crowds

who wait in the heat until some of them faint is a story that can't be ignored.

But the national media does a great job of it.

[Piperay]

31. Kerry is not a coward

like chimp who is so afraid :scared: of being distracted by a jeer or a question. x(

[Democat]

34. Maybe Clear Channel will try to help - more busses, more free stuff

Go see Bush and win free stuff and we'll even drive you there.

From what has been posted here previously, Clear Channel bussed people to the Los Angeles anti-Bush protest to try to make it look like Bush had support.

They will probably start doing the same all around the country.

They own a lot of U.S. radio station, they can bring people out if they decide to put their money and resources into it.

[progressivebydesign]

45. Bush can open up his events...

.. that's bullshit that he can't cuz he's a sitting President. The late Congressman I volunteered attended huge events with Clinton. One in Santa Barbara, that I recall, had thousands of people. It was ticketed ahead of time, but it was NOT a handpicked crowd. It was massive. Bush is just a big chickenshit.. he refuses to be out amongst the people. He stopped doing it after that man told him to his face, along a parade route, that he was doing a crappy job. Bush retorted, "who cares what YOU think?", and that was the last of his hobnobing with the little people.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

46. Bush enabler Anne Kornblut yesterday on Meet the Press:

ANDREA MITCHELL: Well, one issue about what you saw in Portland, Oregon, is that you've got very different campaigns now. George Bush, the president, going to these town meetings with preselected people asking questions that appear to have been prompted by the campaign. You were out, Anne, with John Kerry in Portland, and they claim to have 40,000 people. That's what was reported. Very large rallies, not as controlled. Is that a correct take on it?

MS. KORNBLUT: Well, sure. They're certainly not as monitored. And the numbers, I'm usually very skeptical of the numbers that we're told at...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5714209/

[DoYouEverWonder]

47. Maybe Ms Kornblut needs to open her eyes?

"I'm usually very skeptical of the numbers that we're told at..."

Who needs numbers, the pictures say it all, honey.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

48. 40,000 to 50,000 was the OFFICIAL estimate

Mitchell should have stated it as fact. She sort of invited Korblut to dispute it.

"Portland fire officials estimated the crowd at between 40,000 and 50,000 people on the Willamette River waterfront...."

http://www.registerguard.com/news/2004/08/14/a14.kerrypdx.0814.html

[depakid]

51. Yep- 50,000 according to the Portland Fire marshall

who's job it to know such things. Acording to their spokesman, they had fuly one half of the Portland Fire Bureau assigned to the event!

When you consider all of the people who didn't know how to get in and simply followed the line and got left out or discouraged, I'm guessing the number was probably closer to 60,000.

[Piperay]

52. I guess she is also skeptical

of her own two eyes, all she has to do is open them up and look! :eyes: :think:

[JimHarper3]

57. Bush's handlers are afraid...

Bush's handlers are afraid if he was in front of a real crowd he would start talking...so they line up a bunch of neo-con zombies that will cheer at anything that comes out of his mouth, and give them all scripts and hope W doesn't screw it up...again. To their credit, they have a lock on many of the bosses of media, and can get their candidate seen by millions on the news as looking "Presidential".

Doesn't seem to you like Bush would really like to fuck this up for himself if he could get the chance? Maybe he is really tired of being manipulated, too. Too bad he doesn't have the intellegence to figure out his own way in the world...

[LSK]

59. dead heat in most surveys???????

You mean tied in ONE survey and Kerry KILLING Bush in EVERY OTHER SURVEY??!?!?!!?!?!?