bain_sidhe
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:21 PM
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Dear Clinton supporters: I know it hurts |
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and I know you need some time to grieve.
We'll talk later, when you're feeling better.
Until then, :hug:
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gateley
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:24 PM
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and it must be so much more difficult for you since this was so long and emotion-packed.
:hug:
And, bain_sidhe, a :hug: for you too. You're a sweetheart.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:25 PM
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2. I really appreciate the sentiment, but |
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(and no offense to you) I wish people would stop telling me I'm going through "stages" of grieving. It's not really like that to me.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:26 PM
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4. You can go through whatever it is |
bain_sidhe
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:28 PM
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I always had a head-heart dichotomy going on, my head supporting Obama, my heart pulling for Hillary. So my feelings are complicated right now, but none of them really match the "stages of grief" paradigm.
Whatever, I just wanted to say I understand...
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:37 PM
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11. I dont understand ... |
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BOTH my head and my heart supported BOTH Obama and Clinton (And Edwards and Biden and Kucinich and Dodd, et al) ..... I have NO trouble whatsoever supporting EVERY ONE of our fine candidates ....
My grief came from Democrats attacking Democrats because their ego didn't allow for respectful disagreement .... That will not go away soon ....
I love the candidates ...
Their supporters here ? ..... Hmmmm ... some Plug Uglies .... definitely ....
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:43 PM
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I think we compare it to stages of grieving because there is
1) Denial - Clinton supporters who still believe the SuperDelegates will rally to her
2) Anger - The blatant sexism in the media, the insults from Obama supporters that are gender based. These are the Clinton supporters who declare they will help McCain win.
3) Bargaining - OK, I never quite understood this one in the context of grief. Maybe here it means the "Maybe she can be VP" or all that mess with Florida and Michigan and talk of going to the convention
4) Depression - I've backed losing candidates, it can be very disheartening
5) Acceptance - When you realize that Obama isn't such a bad guy and would make a good president (if not as good as Hillary ;)), when you realize that a McCain presidency would undo so much of what Hillary has fought for most of her life - when you sign on to help Obama win - that is acceptance.
hey, I was an Edwards supporter both times around. In 2004 I thought Kerry was boring and lacked the charisma to win. I was angry that the media kept pushing him, angry that Iowa and New Hampshire seemed to have decided for us. I cried when Edwards conceded on Super Tuesday. This time around I was angry that the media made the whole race about Clinton vs. Obama. I thought Clinton was too calculating and Obama smug. When Edwards was losing, I figured he was trying to get to the Convention and pull some coup.
Maybe stages isn't right because some people will never go through those emotions and some people go through them in a different order, or several at once.
Most of us have backed losing candidates before - those are the ones who are being gracious (if misguided), not obnoxious. I do think this is a little different because it is not just your candidate losing, somehow, Hillary has come to represent every woman and her loss is a loss for feminism too. Who knows how long it will be before we have another viable female presidential candidate? In some ways it is a little easier to know it is an African American who beat her, they've had their own struggles for equality in this country - and it's not just more of the same. On the other hand, it's harder that he's African American for those subtle racist reasons we don't even recognize in ourselves.
But really, what do you mean?
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:29 PM
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6. I can't believe I never saw your name before! |
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Very cool! Do you have a cóiste-bodhar? There used to be this punk band from Ireland called Dullahan and the Cóiste-Bodhar... I had to read some of the lore because of that.
I was never a Hillary or Obama supporter... but I am feeling a bit relieved right now. I'm far too empathetic for my own good... I can actually get physically ill if I feel another's pain too strongly. Ugh... DU has been giving me serious headaches.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:33 PM
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I wouldn't call it grieving, for me personally, but I am disappointed. I am not looking forward to her speech. I will probably cry, but my tears are more for others then for myself.
She is an amazing woman who I greatly respect. I know she must be feeling broken hearted.
Her campaign workers tried so hard and came so close. I appreciate them and I know how badly they must feel.
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:33 PM
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9. Save your concern for someone who cares. |
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Tue Jun-03-08 08:35 PM
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10. I do feel bad for you but isn't she giving a classy speech right now? |
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She is needed, believe me.....Stay with us.
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