Obama Supporters, No More Negative Hillary Threads, Please.

[Barack_America]

It's over. Let's move on.

We have a general election to win.



This is what greeted me when I woke up this morning.




It's all good, people, it's all good. He did it. This can't be taken away from him any longer. But there's no guarantee's on that general election, folks.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

1. I have moved on.

Unfortunately, Hillary hasn't. Reconciliation begins when she concedes.

[RandomKoolzip]

2. Are HRC supporters allowed, by your rules, to post anti-Dem Nominee posts?

[Barack_America]

8. Absolutely not.

But my "rules" don't govern DU, Skinner's do.

All I'm asking is that I see more threads celebrating Obama's accomplishment and less threads about what the other former candidate has done or will do.

There were several threads earlier complaining that so much of last night's coverage was focused on her.

Has DU been any different?

[guruoo]

20. One side has to summon the maturity to stop it first

[Barack_America]

29. Yes, thank you, that is exactly what I'm getting at.

It seems, however, that it's difficult for many here to shake the negativity of the primaries off.

I understand that.

I just wish I saw more threads celebrating Obama's accomplishment.

[guruoo]

34. Tough to leave memories of the schoolyard behind, I guess

[PoliticalAmazon]

39. Especially when the schoolyard bully keeps causing trouble...

For those of us who have dealt with schoolyard bullies, we can tell you that the worst thing you can do to a bully (if your goal is to stop the bad behavior) is to give in to them or to ignore them. It will only amp up the bullying actions.

The only successful tactic is to stand up to them and call them out.

Hillary's abusing her power to bully the Democratic Party. She needs to be called out and have the shit kicked out of her (metaphorically speaking, of course), like any other bully.

She won't stop until she is confronted with enough strength to make her back down. 'Tis the nature of a bully.

[guruoo]

41. IMO, time to leave the schoolyard behind, and join the adult world.

[PoliticalAmazon]

42. The lessons we learned in the schoolyard, and schoolyard personalities...

grow up into adults with the same qualities.

The bully at age 8 in most cases grows up to be an adult bully. He/she may learn to hide it better, but the tactics are the same.

I believe we need to look at Hillary for what she is and treat her accordingly. Hoping she is something else and acting based on a wrong assessment can lead to disaster.

[guruoo]

43. Try looking to Obama for leadership on this issue.

[PoliticalAmazon]

53. Jesus, you sound like he's Jesus. Differences of opinion are allowed. n/t

[guruoo]

54. ROTFLMAO!

[Donald Ian Rankin]

56. They have less to lose by doing so.

Obama's supporters need to concilliate Clinton's far more than vice versa.

Clinton's supporters have less to gain by a reconcilliation - Clinton won't be the president no matter what happens - whereas Obama desperately needs the support of as many as possible of Clinton's backers.

If you're a Clinton supporter, then you're left with a choice between your (probably) second and third favourite (out of three) options for president; if you're an Obama supporter, you're faced with a choice between your (probably) first and third, so you have much more at stake.

So it's simple game theory that now is a time when it's far more important for Obama's supporters not to be rude about Clinton than vice versa.

[K Gardner]

3. And yet, this forum is being left open for SEVEN more days so Obama haters can

undermine his candidacy. And the media is still focusing on Hillary and already using the Clinton talking points about his weak candidacy and demographic "problems" that he just CANT solve without HER. And she still hasn't conceded.

I'll fight FOR him as long as there are people attacking him, whether they be Republicans OR Democrats. And when Hillary concedes, I would imagine the negative comments about her will cease.

[Barack_America]

10. He knows how to deal with that.

A couple of well-timed, scorching attacks on McCain's policies and it will be...

Weak, what?

Hillary, who?


Let's follow Obama's approach to the nastiness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yel8IjOAdSc

[guruoo]

35. Follow our nominee's lead -put Hillary on ignore.

[OnionPatch]

4. That would be nice, but there are people here

who still think Hillary has a chance or that she was somehow cheated. It's very hard not to respond to those kinds of posts.

[Barack_America]

31. I understand that...

That's actually why I specified "threads". We only get three a day. If more could be pro-Obama rather than anti-Hillary, that would be great.

That's all.

[guruoo]

36. Try following our nominee's example

[K Gardner]

5. Here's a prime example ...

Take a look at what one "clinton supporter" started on this thread, as the rest of them chimed in..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6265554&mesg_id=6265554

[Barack_America]

12. All I see are a bunch of "Ignored" posts.

I understand the frustration and anger.

But look at what Barack accomplished last night.

This is a GOOD day! :D

[goletian]

33. a more indepth look at saracat...

http://capitalhillforum.com/topic/257446/1/#new

Will you remain a Dem if Obama is the nominee?

I am really struggling with this. it is difficult for me as a lifelong Dem, and one whose husband is a candidate but damn, I am really leaning toward being Indie if Obama gets the nom. I don't see how I can support him. And i would have to rersign my party positions as well!

http://winetourfeasts.com/edwards/viewtopic.php?p=2840#2840

If we can elect a Democratic Senate and Congress it won't really matter what a President McCain might do.McCain doesn't really believe in a "100 year war," and I doubt he is "anti choice" in reality.He has to throw red meat to his base.He would never get Congress to approve those things. Barack isn't going to be able to do some of what he says either but because he presents himself as something he is not to such a high degree, I believe he is worse than McCain. But the reality is, I won't vote for either.I am ,however encouraging folks to vote the Dem downline.I don't give a damn who is president anymore.No one in my entire family is going to vote for President this season. We have given up.The choices are too disgusting.And I actually had some Embarassed Crying or Very sad people switch parties, and now, I may be leaving myself! I am really embarrassed.

http://winetourfeasts.com/edwards/viewtopic.php?p=2518#2518

I am an awful Democrat. I so want Obama to lose and lose big, just because I want to see certain people on DU eat dirt. I mean I want him to blow up so bad that he can't see up. I don't want any physical harm to come to him, but .......... You know that scene where James Cagney mushes a grapefruit in that womans face...........I want to do that!.......to certain DUers.

I am a bad, bad girl!

I am too then. I have about had it. I have been told I am "unwelcome" should go to FR and am demented all in one thread because I suggested Obama be investigated. I may not return to DU .I am sick of it all.

http://winetourfeasts.com/edwards/viewtopic.php?p=604#604

If anyone ever wondered about what Obama supporters(Not all but many) think about poverty and care for other folks the answer is right here. I got my butt handed to me for even suggesting that Obama and in fact any candidate does not "need" the huge amounts raised and that the money could best be used to fight poverty or to rebuild NOLA! The idiots truly jusrify this excess andsome think Obam will solve everything with a "pen stroke" once elected! I think I am done with DU.What nasty bunch .And to think they used this topic to attack John!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4452230

http://winetourfeasts.com/edwards/viewtopic.php?p=121#121

Okay guys this is me and my good friend John! I have lots of John pictures! Don't we make a lovely couple? Even my husband agrees! LOL! My name is Celeste. Saracat was my darling baby girl who passed away in the pet food fiasco.I too have been in "the biz" as an actor/producer/director. I have my own media consulting and theatrical Production Company.I am originally from NY(born and raised in Westchester, lived for awhile on the upper west side of Manhatten) but now live in Phoenix.I have an interest in an independent film company in NY. And , like Michael, I also am young for my years, which I will NOT reveal on the grounds that a woman who will tell you her age cannot be trusted to tell you anything! LOL!
My most recent entertainment politcal effort was a Democratic politcal television talk show called Politcally Speaking. I was most proud of the fact that I got to meet and interview ALL the presidential candidates from the last two cycles.
My husband is a candidate for state senate and we live in Phoenix with a large grumpy black polydactal cat Barrymore and his almost new adopted sister Lili who is a very unusual autumn colored torty! I will add more as I think of it. I consider myself not only an Edwards Democrat but an FDR Democrat.I come by this naturally as my Grandad was part of the FDR Brain trust.He was the lawyer for the movie Industry and general counsel for the MPPDA.Both my parents were lawyers and I am an only child.I am thrilled that we have this site.I look forward to getting to know everyone.

[Max_powers94]

6. OK BUT IF SHE DOES SOMETHING SILLY AGAIN.........

[Hugabear]

7. I will not start any anti-Hillary threads. However, I reserve the right to respond to their attacks

From this point on, you won't see any new anti-Hillary posts from me. However, if her more rabid supporters continue to attack Obama and spread lies, I'm not going to just shut up and take it, I reserve the right to respond in-thread. I'm not going to allow some of these extremists attempt to sabotage our nominee as he takes aim at McCain.

[Hope And Change]

9. Kristi, I`m with you.I will not post any negative threads about Clinton.It`s pointless.

It`s time to move on and start coming together as Democrats and defeat Mcshame!

[johnlal]

11. It starts with Senator Clinton

She needs to concede defeat, and fall behind Obama in whatever capacity HE decides is most useful to his campaign. Until she does that, she's still fair game for criticism.

[Barack_America]

13. But is her concession/endorsement the main story here? Or is it Obama's accomplishment?

:shrug:

[johnlal]

14. It's not the main story, but it is page two.

Her refusal to concede is certainly worthy of discussion, don't you think?

[Barack_America]

16. It's not page two on DU. It was consuming page one.

That's why I requested more pro-Obama rather than anti-Hillary threads.

[johnlal]

17. Point taken

I posted one Pro-Obama post already. I will try to be more positive in the future. I really am excited.

[Tatiana]

15. I'm over her. She can do whatever. We need to MOVE ON.

Maybe a lack of attention will cause her to focus her priorities.

Whatever the case, we need to start articulating the Democratic message. Our down-ticket Dems are counting on us running a strong national campaign.

[The Doctor.]

18. When there's no more negative Hillary, there'll be no more negative Hillary threads.

K?

Sure, I'm not likely to post any, but I wouldn't tell people they can't comment on bad behavior.

[Barack_America]

19. I didn't tell anyone what to do. Everyone may post as they please, of course.

But I am also allowed to state that I would like to see more positive threads. It's a bit sad that with Obama's accomplishment's last night, the front page of GD-P was dominated by Hillary threads.

Who's more important here?

BTW:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6268836


I'll admit it, I'm going for unity here. Not for her, for him.

[tishaLA]

21. Fired Up! I'm taking a few days to catch my breath

and celebrate. And then it's on to defeating McSame. No Hillary bashing on my schedule.

[Kablooie]

22. Until she concedes, the comments will continue.

[beachmom]

23. Absolutely .... ONCE SHE CONCEDES. That is my criticism of her right now.

And she deserves it. When you lose, you concede. There is no recount. She has not disputed the voting in any state. IT. IS. OVER. And every minute she refuses to concede, the lower my opinion of her sinks. She validates everything negative said about her every minute she fails to do the right thing.

[DeschutesRiver]

24. I am considering the value of moving on

I mean, it is over for Clinton, and her acknowledgment isn't necessary. Sure, she could think beyond "what does Hillary want" as she said in her speech and give back to the Democratic Party by supporting the nominee, but I believe he can win without her support. I watched McCain last night - once Obama gets his stride by observing McCain and quickly getting his game going, it will fast become evident that McCain is not a contender.

Because she is intent on her own political downfall, it could become even more embarassing to watch than it already is - and what this will do to women is just too awful to contemplate. Nonetheless, there is nothing to be gained from watching a candidate who can't accept reality and move on. Pointless, and it allows her to detract from the mission at hand of electing Sen. Obama instead of seeing Sen. McCain in office.

[Barack_America]

26. Exactly. We are giving her concession more weight that it deserves.

Reading the posts here you would think that Obama's not really the nominee until she says so.

:wtf:

[ShortnFiery]

25. Self-righteousness is not attractive when demonstrated by ANYBODY.

:thumbsdown:

[Barack_America]

27. ?

I don't get it.

[krawhitham]

28. When she drops out they will end, right now she is still fighting for the nomination

[Barack_America]

30. The nomination is settled.

Whether she concedes it or not.

[Brundle_Fly]

32. Screw that, until she concedes

she's fair game...

I just saw the GOP ad using her remarks to damage Obama, she's an idiot...

A Sore Loser.

There is lots of Sore Losers here today, and they will get responded too.

[David Zephyr]

47. Concedes and endorses Obama and attacks John McCain.

Until then she's keeping the primary open.

[PoliticalAmazon]

37. Sorry, until Hillary has left the scene and quits agitating, there is going...

to be criticism of her divisive actions.

Enough coddling of Hillary Clinton. She will be criticized as long as she continues to act in ways that warrant criticism.

[Barack_America]

38. I understand that. I just wish I saw more pro-Obama threads.

It's sad to see so many threads devoted to Hillary the day after Obama clinched the historic nomination.

[PoliticalAmazon]

40. I agree. You make a valid point. n/t

[Zavulon]

45. Seconded

:applause: You save me the trouble of saying the same :applause:

[Tommy_Carcetti]

44. Thank you!

We have much work to do. And little time to do it.

[Skidmore]

46. Tell Hillary it can't be taken away. Tell her it isover.

[AZBlue]

48. Yes, but...

I totally agree with that - but if she continues to act negatively against Obama, I reserve the right to criticize her future negative actions. As a matter of fact, it's more important now that she be criticized because she will actively and consciously be working against the Democratic nominee and the Democratic party.

[RB TexLa]

49. LOL, that will never happen.

Funny though.

[salguine]

50. It's not over until she packs it in and goes the FUCK AWAY!

[apocalypsehow]

51. You're preaching to the choir. Time to turn around and start addressing the HRC congregation.

They're the ones that need this sermon the most.

[GalleryGod]

52. Ask Jimmy Rollins-I told him after my Blackberry went off sitting behind home plate last night!

He was so juiced... he crushed a double-up-the-gap on his first pitch and pointed @ me standing on 2nd base!

[Barack_America]

58. Seriously?

That's awesome!

Really?

[woolldog]

55. No more negative posts from me about Clinton.

I've gotten it all out of my system...On to the general election. O8)

[Bensthename]

57. I will say Hillary is the problem not her supporters.