Leaders Do Not Consult With Supporters On How To Proceed.

[berni_mccoy]

Yes, Leaders listen to their constituency. They listen to what is important to them. But they do not choose their course of action by them. Leaders are expected to take the needs of the constituency and build the best road-map to achieving them. They are not told where to go. Leaders lead the way.

When Clinton asked that she would consult with her advisers and the party leader as to how to proceed, I could accept it. But when she said she wanted the people to tell her how to proceed, I knew that she could not be a true leader. I'm sorry, but it is the truth. It is not a negative statement, but an observation and an honest criticism. Before you label this post as negative, consider this:

What does she expect to hear from her supporters? Of course the answer she wants to hear: "Continue" And from Obama supporters she will get just the opposite. It does not take an advanced mind to realize that she will be told exactly what she wants to hear. And that is not leadership. It is a divisive play. She hopes to be able to use her supporters cry to continue as leverage to get something, anything, out of her failed attempt at the nomination. And that is anything but leadership.

[Lucky 13]

1. It was a pathetic shout into an echo chamber.

"All you rabid Clintonites that think I should keep fighting and fuck things up for Barack, go to my web site and tell me how right I am!!"

[berni_mccoy]

3. She's really damaged her credibility and reputation with this.

[high density]

4. lol

She's really a nutjob. I have never seen a politician hold their supporters hostage like this. It's so childish.

[roguevalley]

22. JUST NOW ON TV: Friends, aides from the campaign, her

strategists called eight HARDCORE hillary senators and told them to intervene. Apparently, her supporters out there across the board thought she was 'ungracious' and did a very, very bad thing in not acknowledging him and acting so badly. they all feel harmed.

additionally: 23 congressmen did the same and people said that she BADLY MISREAD her support.

[Lucky 13]

25. day-um.

I'm glad they stepped up.

[TwilightGardener]

2. That was just...bizarre. I assumed it was more for donations than anything else, but

I also suspect it was the narcissist's last chance to receive adoration and encouragement from her Fan Club, before people start forgetting about her and moving on.

[berni_mccoy]

6. If that's the case, it's severely flawed reasoning on their part and further shows she has no

business in the White House. She'd get far more respect and help by doing the honorable thing. Instead, she dishonors herself and her party.

[SoonerPride]

5. I wish they'd put up a poll on her site.

If she wanted people to vote to tell how to get out, I'm sure we'd be happy to do it.

[wyldwolf]

7. at the same time some Obama supporters want a say in his VP selection. Go figure!

[berni_mccoy]

9. No. They just fear he's being forced into choosing her. If he chose her of his own reasoning

in his own time, then that choice would be respected. Haven't you seen the post of support for Obama no matter who he chooses? It's gotten wide support from Obama supporters here.

And you can not turn this point around on Obama. Obama is not asking his supporters for advice in choosing his VP.

[rug]

26. So it's unsolicited bullshit?

[XemaSab]

13. I don't think we HAVE a say...

We can offer our opinions, but the Man himself knows the players better than us mere pawns on teh DU.

[berni_mccoy]

16. And that is why Obama IS A TRUE Leader.

[XemaSab]

18. As I think John Stewart put it:

Don't we WANT an elitist? Don't we WANT someone who think he's better than the rest of us? :shrug:

[Buzz Clik]

8. Hillary sent her supporters to her website to contribute money, not ideas.

[ShortnFiery]

10. HRC considered herself "an entitled ruler" ... she's not ever expressed the TRAITS of a true leader.

Who inspires people to work for EACH OTHER instead of "a demigod."

I'm so thankful TODAY that I don't live in the UK because *ROYALTY* of any flavor (even *political*) is NOT The American Way! :patriot:

[berni_mccoy]

17. Americans soundly reject royalty. Always have. Always will.

[PoliticalAmazon]

11. Ironic that Hillary as a Senator ignored the American peeps and their needs...

voting more often to serve the best interests of the neocon over the best interests of the American masses. She fought for NOTHING except what benefitted corporate America and her corporate benefactors in India.

Voters begged her to stand up to Bush's heinous appointments, to not vote for Iraq, the bankruptcy bill, etc., but she ignored them.

So this current solitician of advice is a cheap publicity ploy.

She's turning out to be as big of an empty suit as Bush Jr.

[berni_mccoy]

15. Agree on all points.

[complain jane]

12. Good Lord.

But when she said she wanted the people to tell her how to proceed, I knew that she could not be a true leader.

I hate to break this to you, but every politician sets their course according to the polls.

That is letting the people tell you how to proceed and every president has done it on both sides of the aisle.

To think otherwise is naive.

[berni_mccoy]

14. No, they listen to their constituency, they don't follow them.

[goclark]

19. That's why they call them LEADer's nt

[NanceGreggs]

20. She was asking her "supporters" for their input ...

... that's a pretty lopsided "poll", don't you think? It's like Bush asking his remaining supporters (all eleven of them) to express their thoughts on how well he's doing his job.

And what if her supporters all told her to stay in the race - despite the fact that by doing so, she would further divide the party and cause harm to our chances in November?

Would it be "leadership" to say, "My fans have told me overwhelmingly to continue to be divisive and destructive. Therefore, I have no choice but to do their bidding"?

The only "poll" that truly matters here is the one we've just had - it's called a primary, and she LOST. She's never going to get a more honest and fair assessment of what THE PEOPLE think than that.

[berni_mccoy]

21. Thanks Nance. Very, very well stated.

[NanceGreggs]

24. Well, my best subject has always been ...

... the bleedin' obvious.

How can you look at the final numbers of a long-fought primary race, see that you're losing by every measure, and then say, "Well, I need to discuss this my people before I know what my reaction should be"?

Ready on Day One? Yeah, right.

[rodeodance]

23. What a twisted spin you have. You ASSume Hillary would follow, She wanted

input from her followers. But you have to inject your hate into everything she does.

[berni_mccoy]

27. LOL. "inject your hate" ... like you just did.