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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:22 PM
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Uh-oh.. Lou Dobbs just ran a poll saying 66% of his viewers say Hillary should run as independent.
Ouch. Double ouch. If you think it's bad here now for Hillary
supporters... phew... the bloodshed would be unreal.:hide:
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:23 PM
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1. Lou Dobbs has a big old chip on his shoulder over Obama.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:29 PM
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10. Yeah, just because Hillary only has the popular vote, while Obama gets in on delegates...
:eyes:

It couldn't mean anything, could it?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:30 PM
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12. That is wrong and a lie. Please stop saying that.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:37 PM
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25. It is bniot a lie. They showed the popular vote and he
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 07:37 PM by sallyseven
didn't get as many. Kiss off.
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:53 PM
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34. Only if you dont count caucuses
So, uh no
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:20 AM
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47. 1. Obama didn't campaign in Florida 2. He wasn't on the Ballot in Michigan 3. Caucuses count
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 01:21 AM by cbc5g
4. Puerto Rico doesn't vote in the General Election so 150,000 votes gained there doesn't matter in the GE 5. I'm still seeing 0 votes from Harlem. I guess votes must count unless its in a heavy African American district?



Anything else?
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:21 AM
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48. Who showed it?
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:34 PM
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19. Yea well lets guesstimate how many voted for Obama in the caucus states and add them up too.
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 07:35 PM by L0oniX
Hillary did not get the "real" popular vote. She is a liar.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:46 PM
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32. Obama supporters are incapable of telling the truth.
Even after they have won. I guess they feel they have to keep the lie up. Hillary got 18,046,000 votes. Obama got 17,870,000 counting the caucus states. You lost the popular vote. Deal with it.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:00 AM
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44. How did you count the caucus states, fool?
Caucus states do not keep running tallies. Jesus.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:17 AM
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50. Typical Hillary supporter who loves a cheater who counts votes from Michigan.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:39 AM
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54. You need to know how to read the chart.
Using your hill numbers, obama's numbers puts him ahead in the popular.

Obama 18,107,710 (48.1%) Clinton 18,046,007 (47.9%) == Obama +61,703 +0.2%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:42 PM
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30. you'll be BANNED in a week. enjoy it while it lasts.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:04 PM
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39. She DID NOT win the popular vote! nt
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:59 AM
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43. You're a fucking retard. How many times does this have to be explained to you?
Please go back to school and sign up for an American civics class immediately so you can learn how our government works.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:31 AM
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51. no, it doesn't mean anything
Sorry. But thanks for playing. The total popular vote in the primary season means even less than it does in the GE. In the GE, what matters is who wins states with the most electoral votes. You could win the national popular vote in a walk and still lose the election by a sizable margin if you pile up big wins in states with relatively few electoral college votes and narrow losses in states with a lot of electoral votes. With specific reference to the claim that HRC's popular vote total is significant, first, it ignores several caucus states and the tainted results in Michigan and Florida which in no sense can be viewed as accurately reflecting the actual level of popular support for Obama in those states. Moreover, a big win in Puerto Rico is nice, but as for it having any signficance insofar as for the GE, well, it doesn't have any. Puerto Rico doesn't participate in the GE.

In other words, its a false metric. If you can relate it to anything meaningful, please do.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:34 PM
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20. Actually, he just happens to like Hillary a lot
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MrRobotsHolyOrders Donating Member (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:39 PM
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27. Actually, he just happens to hate colored people
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:50 PM
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33. people of color, *colored* is very offensive
thanks
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MrRobotsHolyOrders Donating Member (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:58 PM
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36. FAIL
Are you TIVO-ing Lou tonight? I hear he's got a great segment on '8 Ways to Make Your Home Safe From Mexican Child Snatchers.'
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:23 PM
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2. Of course his supporters want that.
They're mostly republicans in the 27% bush base who see that as the only way for Grampy McNasty to win. IMHO.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:24 PM
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3. I would expect such sentiment from his viewers.
What kind of people would regularly tune into this fat bigot's show anyways?
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:24 PM
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4. Dobbs viewers and John McCain endorsements... she's on a roll
good grief
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:25 PM
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5. She's a Democrat - NOT a Lieberman.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:26 PM
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6. Republicans watch him. Tell you anything. DUH.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:28 PM
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7. only 66%?
I would have thought that most of his viewers would be republicans and of course they would want her to run. It's a good thing that'll never happen.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:28 PM
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8. Breaking: 65.9% of Lou Dobbs viewers are Republican!
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:28 PM
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9. It probably just includes a bunch of Republicans and a few Hillary supporters
nt
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:30 PM
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11. Sucks hair balls?
Lou Dobbs.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:30 PM
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13. Pretty much 2/3 of the board should have been banned by now.
Does anyone even read the TOS anymore, much less enforce them?

Of course not. This is DU. If you love Obama, you can get away with anything. Rumors, hate, constant insults-- it doesn't matter.

Biggest hypocrites alive.
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:36 PM
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24. No one is forcing you to stay if you hate it so much here. n/t
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:31 PM
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14. And if she were to pick Richardson as a running mate ...then what?
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:31 PM
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15. Yeah and 66% of his viewers we should build a big fortress across the Mexican border...
and deport anyone with brown skin.

That guy is a wank. You shouldn't watch that garbage. It rots the brain.

Obama should do the exact opposite of whatever assholes like Lou Dobbs tell him to.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:32 PM
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16. Lou Dobbs' audience will die of old age before November.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:33 PM
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17. *snerk*
Yeah, his viewship being the 15% of right-wing anti-immigrant blowhards who wouldn't vote for her no matter what party she ran under.

Uh-oh? It'd be uh-oh if she was stupid enough to listen to him...or if anyone who backs her is stupid enough to try and talk her into it.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:33 PM
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18. You know it's mostly freakish repukes who voted yes. Oh yeah and
Harriet. Can't forget Harriet.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:35 PM
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21. 66% of what population?
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:35 PM
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22. No it wouldn't! No bloodshed.
Hillary supporters wouldn't be allowed on here so there would be no problem Remember Cindy? No Independents allowed on DU.
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:41 PM
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29. Oh well, as long as the WEBSITE is okay
Sheesh
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:36 PM
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23. Which is about the same percentage of his viewers...
...who are Republicans I would wager. What a shocking thing that they would want to see an independent run by Hillary.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:38 PM
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26. That's just their way of saying they don't want to vote for Obama.
Big whoop-tee-do. SFW.
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MrRobotsHolyOrders Donating Member (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:40 PM
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28. Lou Dobbs is a Klansmen
At least Anne Coulter has a sense of humor about what a shrill, rascist demagogue she is.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:57 PM
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35. exactly!
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:42 PM
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31. Considering he has about 12 viewers...
...I don't think there's need to be worried.
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:01 PM
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37. here's the link: go vote no then.....
http://loudobbs.tv.cnn.com/

and yeah, as if what shows up on a lou dobbs website poll even fragmentarily represents real trends out there.

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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:03 PM
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38. That poll was spammed by the 2 independent hillary forums.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:12 PM
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40. Give me a break..
A poll of Lou Dobbs listenrs is probably not something you want to be quoting.

Senator Clinton will not run independent. And even if she ever did, the rules at DU would not allow people to support her, so there would be nothing over which to shed blood.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:30 PM
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41. Lou's a way-too-comfy fat-cat quasi racist chump.
He doesn't strike me as someone who has much respect, if any, for people of color.

He also doesn't strike me as an adult problem-solver.

He's Mr. Unexceptional Journalist cabled into millions of homes and airports.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 12:58 AM
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42. Well of course Republicans think Hillary should run as an independent.
They want McCain, don't they?
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:14 AM
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45. Official Lou Dobbs fan club photo

Yeah Lou, we'll keep them damn brown people out of the country for ya! WHITE POWER!!!!1!!!111!!
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:16 AM
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46. Lou Dobbs needs to get fired before I start considering CNN again
He can join the other RW assholes at Fox News.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 01:30 AM
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49. Lou Dobbs is one of those journalists who has a hard on for Hillary Clinton.
I can not figure it out any other way. She would let all the immigrants in. More Latinos means more voters for her. Lou Dobbs is obviously thinking with his dick.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:36 AM
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52. 66% of bitter, uninformed viewers agree! n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:39 AM
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53. Dobbs viewers? Yeah...right... We can be sure that's an "objective" poll.
Dobbs hates the Democrats...(he thinks they are softer on immigration than even the Repugs) so any poll he puts up scews to ....guess who.

Why do you post this? Can't give it up on Hillary? Obama's the nominee...she supports him. Why push this Limbaugh type Dobbs thing? :shrug:
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:44 AM
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55. Why are all you guys hitting on the Repugs?
It was crossover Repugs and Indies who won for Obama in Montana. Do you really believe that they will be there for your guy in the GE?
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:46 AM
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56. She's never get it as an independent
She'd never run that way.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:48 AM
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57. Carlos Mencia had great parody of Dobb's World View
Carlos Mencia on Comedy Central had a great parody of Lou Dobb's view of the world. They had an illegal Mexican with ammo belts strung over his shoulders shooting into the air, having the government pay for plastic surgery to turn his family into gringos, and collecting government checks.

Then Mencia mentioned that the illegals he knows actually stay as far away from government buildings as possible.
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