Clinton Superdelegate: "Clinton Wanted to Exploit Jewish-Black Tension"

[grassfed]

Rep. Rob Andrews, who supported Hillary Clinton throughout the primary season, disclosed he received a phone call shortly before the April 22 Pennsylvania primary from a top member of Clinton's organization and that the caller "explicitly" discussed a strategy of winning Jewish voters by exploiting tensions between Jews and African-Americans.

"There have been signals coming out of the Clinton campaign that have racial overtones that indeed disturb me,"

"Frankly, I had a private conversation with a high-ranking person in the campaign ... that used a racial line of argument that I found very disconcerting. It was extremely disconcerting given the rank of this person. It was very disturbing."

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/06/superdelegate_says_clinton_cam.html

[billybob537]

1. wow that's truely ROVIAN!

[ingac70]

2. Someone who does such vile things...

should be treated as a pariah by the Democratic party.

[QC]

3. Dupe x 3. n/t

[shadowknows69]

4. But we here who pointed this out were just haters and sexists right?

[lisa58]

5. The Clinton Supporters don't believe it because the source wasn't named...

...they may have a point - but I still don't understand why a superdelegate would say this.

[Cosmocat]

10. They also would ...

like republicans disparage that person on a personal basis if he/she was named ...

[onehandle]

I'm not a Clinton supporter and I would like a source. nt

[lisa58]

17. I love to know who said it...

...I just don't understand why Andrews would make up such a thing.

[roguevalley]

38. unless it was true. they said it because it was true. how hard is it

to believe that people are telling the truth? It reminds me of all the shit flying about how the war was a lie but somehow, Colin Powell didn't know he was lying at the UN. He knew it and he did it. People tell the truth. what benefit would this person get from lying? Good grief. Can it be so hard to believe that people tell the truth?

[onehandle]

6. Hearsay. He needs to name names. nt

[tabatha]

7. No, it was a conversation he had.

Not hearsay.

[onehandle]

14. Who was he talking to?

Until he names names, it's unconfirmed.

[Clovis Sangrail]

19. I agree

if it's true I whole heartedly want the person to be identified and for them, and anybody who approved of this tactic, to FRY.... but until the person is named and details given about what was actually said it's got no legs.

[roguevalley]

40. books are going to be written, articles, and names will come out.

tactics will come out. some are going to fry. this person has broached the subject and I believe them. The name will come out.

[hokies4ever]

33. If he named the name, that person would deny it, and you would call Andrews a liar.

So stop pretending otherwise.

[Leopolds Ghost]

42. Wrong. That's not how journalism works. He was a first hand witness to the conversation at issue

Identities of the source have been kept private. Just like they were in the story on which senior Clinton aides asked 8 Senators to call the Clintons and demand them to concede. It was reported that you would know these people if you heard the name, sources are not always revealed in journalism. What is important is that the REPORTER can confirm who it was OFF THE RECORD.

Jesus Christ you'd think folks on a political site would know how news is sourced. :eyes:

[onehandle]

44. It wasn't the reporter's source. It was a second hand source.

Did the source name his source? The article doesn't say that.

Nothing in the article says that the reporter can confirm anything.

[Clovis Sangrail]

8. IDENTIFY THE PERSON!!!

Don't go after Clinton when doing it, but THROW THAT PERSON UNDER THE BUS.

If a high ranking Democratic campaign staffer did this, everybody in the Democratic party should know who the person is and what they said ... so that person can be ostracized from the party.

WE DON'T NEED OR WANT PEOPLE LIKE THAT REPRESENTING OUR PARTY

I really can't understand protecting the identity of somebody who did something like that.

[MethuenProgressive]

9. Rob Andrews is a lying turncoat trying to ingratiate himself with the Obama Camp.

"Look guys, I'm on your side now!"

[blm]

13. Then demand accountability for his lie. If he's telling the truth demand accountability

as you absolutely do not accept that type of tactic as a Democrat and believe it requires its own accountability moment from an outraged Dem party....right??

[lisa58]

16. All he needed to do was endorse....

....there is no need to bash the Clinton campaign - so I don't understand why he would say this.

[MethuenProgressive]

21. *If* it were true - and he stayed in HRC's camp - what does that say about him?

Is that really the kind of person BO wants endorsing him?

[LowerManhattanite]

31. LOL. n/t

[roguevalley]

41. so everyone will be that. I think he's probably telling the truth. they

used the southern strategy. why not this

[Leopolds Ghost]

43. And which camp are YOU on?

[patrice]

11. I think Hillary hired the wrong people and then lost control of them.

And Bill didn't help.

[Dr Fate]

12. In the pre-internet days, they would have gotten away with it.

Another example of 90's style campaigning just not quite getting it.

[onehandle]

15. Obama Superdelegate: "Obama Wanted to Exploit Bigfoot-Alien Tension"

So it must be true because you read on the Internet a guy said so without naming a source?

:eyes:

[lisa58]

18. bigfoot-alien tension - that's a wedge

[XemaSab]

46. Especially here in Northern California

:P

[newmajority]

20. There have been Hillbots on this very board who have been doing this.

And I'm not going to mention any names, because that would be a violation of DU rules. But some of their games have been painfully obvious.

And when you have Geraldine Ferraro spewing KKK crap every time she opens her mouth, that's not going to help. Nor is it exactly productive to have a formerly respected journalist like Sid Blumenthal deliberately circulating Freeper crap e-mails, which contain all kinds of smears about Obama, including "Muslim" rumors. And unfortunately, there is a segment of the Jewish population who has an immediate negative reaction to anything perceived as "Islamic". And surely Blumenthal knows that as well as I do.

There's definitely some truth to this. And it's just another sickening piece of the puzzle that was the Hillary 2008 campaign.

[asthmaticeog]

25. He got banned.

She'll be out the door I'm guessing on Wednesday the 11th.

And for the record, this Jew proudly voted for Obama in Ohio. I've still got some family members who still think he's a closet Muslim. I'm working on them.

[Maribelle]

27. KKK crap?????????? That is as far from the truth as you can get.

[springhill]

30. Hillbots...........

You are disgusting.

[Saturday]

22. flamebait. nt

[BklynChick]

23. sadly, this doesn't surprise me at all.

[Maribelle]

24. Clinton Wanted to ?????????????????

Please, do you even realize the floodgates you are opening attempting to blame Hillary for this?

[Fredda Weinberg]

29. Yeah well, Rev Wright didn't speak for anyone but himself. n/t

[vaberella]

32. After the Ferraro incident, the "as far as I know" incident---when she went to mass with him

after the McCain endorsement...there's not many gates to left to open to have a flood.

[hokies4ever]

37. Too bad Hillary is trying to divide Jews and blacks

absolutely despicable.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

26. Like I said, she exploited many tensions, exploiting race in the process!

Exploited black-"hard-working" whites tension
Exploited black-Hispanic tension
Exploited white-Black Muslim tension
Exploited black-white women tension

This does not surprise me. When people call Hillary a Republican and Hillary supporters get angry for it, her actions such as these confirm that she is much closer to the Republican party than her followers care to admit.

[springhill]

28. And how do we know that what his delegate said was true.......

I swear I have heard so many untruths that people just jump on with absolutely no proof that they ever happened, other than someone said it did. But I think some people around here just live for the next juicy tidbit that they can't slam Hillary over the head with it, proof be damned.

[MethuenProgressive]

34. It's anti-Clinton, so DU tradition holds that it *must* be true,

Hard to buck Tradition.

[hokies4ever]

35. This is what happens when your candidate has no credibility

People won't give her campaign the benefit of the doubt.

[PM7nj]

36. Rob just wants to stay relevant...

He just got crushed by Lautenberg in the primary and is giving up his house seat. He doesn't want people to forget about him too fast. I have met Andrews many times, he is my congressman, and although he is an all around good guy, he LOVES attention.

[goldcanyonaz]

39. Yet another seeking their 15 minutes of fame

[Meshuga]

45. While Obama offered to lead an initiative

of rebuilding the bridge between African Americans and Jews. Which was once a very strong bridge that had collapsed. The dirty politics got the Clinton campaign nowhere.

I'm glad the person who took the high road won the race to the nomination.

[democracy1st]

47. K & R