terrya
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Sat Jun-07-08 10:52 AM
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I know what some of the responses will be but, as a favor... |
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Just for today...could we not get into the "Hillary is evil" stuff? Just for today...when she's officially leaving? This is a sad day for the Hillary supporters on DU.
Just for today? Out of respect?
Thanks. Flame away and all of that.
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Sat Jun-07-08 10:53 AM
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but have no expectation anybody will heed it.
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:25 AM
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and expect that it will be heeded by those Obama supporters who usually make an effort to be civil. (even if we don't always succeed.)
However, there are trolls and children on both sides.
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Sat Jun-07-08 10:56 AM
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2. Even though I'm in the opposite camp, I would like very much for this to happen |
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And you're very sweet for trying, t. :hug:
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terrya
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Sat Jun-07-08 10:58 AM
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Just for today. I know some good people are feeling sad today. As well as they should be.
:hug:
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Sat Jun-07-08 10:57 AM
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3. I hear you, but I doubt the trolls will respect your grief. |
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Because trolls and their suckers are the only ones who have pushed "(candidate) is evil" stuff around here.
NGU.
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Sat Jun-07-08 10:57 AM
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Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 10:57 AM by dolo amber
Double post.
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:54 AM
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Sat Jun-07-08 10:58 AM
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6. No flame - fine idea - but the problem does not seem to |
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manifest itself on GDP sorted by time of post. On the first page I see no headlines that could be construed asw "Hillary is evil". There are a few headlines complaining about the behavior of Clinton supporters, but the vast majority of OPs here are about Obama.
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:00 AM
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7. Hillary has deserved the venom and I expect she'll deserve more of it. |
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:05 AM
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she has never deserved what's been thrown at her here. The most vicious lies and smears were daily fodder for the haters here. It's time for you jerks to give it up.
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:12 AM
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i am not a hillary supporter, but i agree with you |
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i find myself defending her here on a daily basis. if obama supporters think the primary was tough, they haven't seen anything yet.
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:33 AM
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27. I've defended and supported HRC for 17 years - she needs to cut the crap. |
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:07 AM
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:03 AM
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8. As a longtime ardent Obama supporter, I say AMEN! Actually board already much less nasty ... |
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but LESS nasty isn't necessarily all the way to "appropriately respectful".
Winning over the HRC supporters is a central concern to those who urgently want to see Obama win in the GE. And it isn't just a matter of whether people will vote for Obama, but how strongly they will support -- including the effect the latter has socially, on those one knows.
The latter is one of the reasons I feel very strongly that, although I am OPPOSED to nominating HRC for VP (but will strongly support the ticket no matter what), Obama should pick a woman, and hopefully feel some sense of popular desire expressed for a woman and for someone who never supported the Iraq War Resolution. It seems that the general political climate of the punditocracy, to the extent that it has ANY influence, tends toward the most rightward possible pick of VP w/in the framework of a Democratic nominee.
I also acknowledge that, importantly, HRC has disavowed any pressures to put her on the ticket, and has acceded to what seems to me to be a perfectly timely concession and lining up behind Obama -- both of which points fly in the face of much of what has been said on DU lately. I myself had been worried about efforts to muscle her way on to the ticket, but she has seen that this would be an unwise approach.
If the Democrats are at least as unified in Nov as was the case in 2000 and 2004, I think we'll be able to win this one -- and I do NOT consider Gore in 2000 or Kerry in 2004 to exactly be model presidential campaigns!
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:05 AM
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10. The healing starts today. I hope that BOTH sides start working together to help unite the party! n/t |
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:08 AM
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:hug:
I am hoping that people are respectful to all of the Hillary supporters and to Hillary today. I can hope, right?
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:09 AM
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I've got nothing bad to say about Hillary today.
Unless she pulls a fast one in this speech. And I don't see the point in doing so.
We can still bash Terry McUseless though, right? :evilgrin:
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:11 AM
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15. No problem with that. |
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Truth be told, I can't stand Terry McAullife either. :-(.
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:10 AM
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14. I promise, unless she all of a sudden acts evil again. |
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:11 AM
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16. I just hope her pants suit color doesn't send a secret evil message |
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and insult Obama.
You know how she is.
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:24 AM
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23. I have seizures if I see blue pants suits |
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:26 AM
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25. What if she's wearing the wrong designer today? |
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Dammit, if she shows up wearing an Oscar DeLa Renta....I can't be responsible for my actions. :grr:
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:12 AM
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17. K/R. I hope it's for more than just today -- it is time for healing -- for everyone. |
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Unfortunately, there are some die-hard supporters on both sides that will never let it go. Fortunately, they only have until noon Weds. on DU to get it out of there systems.
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:13 AM
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18. The media is hyping expectations in an unhelpful way |
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I'm not liking that
"hillary should do this and hillary should say that"
They're "shoulding" all over her speech
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:32 AM
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26. Exactly,and they are doing the same for Obama,, |
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they are doing what they have been doing all through the campaign. They told everyone how everything was going to go as though we were going through the campaign for practice.
Once Obama began to win they began taking sides and channeling their own ideas about how each campaign should run and what the next move should be.
Now they are telling us what Hillary should say in this speech and telling Obama who he needs to pander to in the General election as though they don't know what is best for the campaign.
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:14 AM
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19. Maybe we should just listen to what she has to say. |
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and take it from there.
I'm sure it'll be nothing less than gracious.
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:20 AM
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she can't bring the the best tone to the event, a little stoic forebearance and grace would best represent Obama and the best we say we are looking for?
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:21 AM
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obama supporters, you know what he would want you to do. :hug: to the hillary fans. welcome aboard fellow democrats. good to be one party again.
btw, what time is the speech?
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:22 AM
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22. All I want is to put her behind us. |
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:35 AM
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28. Amen. I'm done with the circular firing squad. |
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I've been very angry with her, but I do appreciate her concession today - it's very difficult for her, but yes, I do appreciate it.
And I'm ready for Democratic unity and for moving to win in November.
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Sat Jun-07-08 11:53 AM
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29. You bet - I would prefer that we never go there again. nt |
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Sat Jun-07-08 12:08 PM
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31. OPs like this one fan the flames IMHO, |
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Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 12:25 PM by corkhead
edit to say that her speech did a lot to put an end to it.
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Sat Jun-07-08 12:14 PM
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32. I don't think we have to worry about this today. |
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In my opinion, this was a very, very fine speech. :-)
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Sat Jun-07-08 12:23 PM
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She gave a great, strong speech, she's still going to be a Senate powerhouse, assuming she doesn't get the VP slot...
But I agree. We should avoid the Hillary-bashing today... for those reasons, if no others.
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