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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:25 PM
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GOP Insiders Worry About McCain's Chances

GOP Insiders Worry About McCain's Chances

For four months John McCain had a clear field while Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were at each other's throats. Given the opportunity, the Arizona Senator failed to define the debate in favorable terms, spending much of the valuable primary months defending himself on charges that his campaign staff was top heavy with lobbyists.

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In not-for-attribution interviews, a number of Republicans were neither optimistic about his chances nor positive in their assessment of his campaign so far.

"I think we've got a world of problems," said one Republican strategist with extensive experience in presidential campaigns. He said this came home to him with a thud when he watched Obama and McCain give speeches last Tuesday, with the Democrat speaking before "20,000 screaming fans, while John McCain looked every bit of his 72 years" in a speech televised from New Orleans. This Republican cited the liberal blogger Atrios' description of McCain's speech with a green backdrop that made McCain "look like the cottage cheese in a lime Jell-O salad."

For McCain to stand a chance of winning, the operative contended, the campaign, the Republican National Committee, or an independent group will have to finance sustained negative ads developing a broad assault on Obama's credibility as a national leader at a time of terrorist threat. McCain, however, has gone out of his way to aggressively discourage such activity, the operative pointed out, which, he argued, may kill McCain's chances.

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Tom Mann of the Brookings Institution argues that "McCain continues to embrace Bush policies on the most important issues, relying on a reputation for independence and moderation that could be lost in the heat of battle with Obama and the Democrats.... At the end of this long interlude, the only rationale for his election that has emerged is that Obama cannot be trusted to lead the country at a time of great danger because he is too inexperienced, naïve, liberal, elitist, and out of touch with American values. 'Elect me because the other guy is worse.' Not much of an argument in the face of gale-force winds blowing against the Republican Party."

Along similar lines, Norman Ornstein, of the American Enterprise Institute, questioned whether McCain and his aides have "spent enough time and effort developing themes for why he should be president, not just why Obama should not-- especially themes that address the deep-seated anxiety voters feel that goes beyond current economic conditions."

Arch-conservative Bay Buchanan suggested that it may not matter what McCain does. Writing in Human Events on June 4, she declared:
In reality there is only one candidate. Barack Obama. In November he will win or he will lose. John McCain is relevant only in so far as he is not Barack Obama. The Senator from Arizona is incapable of energizing his party, brings no new people to the polls, and has a personality that is best kept under wraps.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/08/gop-insiders-worry-about_n_105946.html
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:30 PM
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1. McCain squandered this valuable time when Clinton and Obama were fighting each other
He should have been inching ahead in the polls, but instead seemed to drift off of the national rader screen, becoming a sort of afterthought in this campaign.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:37 PM
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4. I'm trying to calculate the pos/neg of it.
McSame unplugged is a disaster.
Otoh, the overwhelming scrutiny of the Dems can be a negative.

However, I'll be surprised if McFriends comes within 8 points in the fall.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:38 PM
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6. He allowed us to dominate the news for months, and Obama is now on everyone's lips!
McCain will ultimately resort to "swiftboating" Obama, but that will be fuel for Obama's claim that he's McSame...
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:30 PM
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2. Just tell them to stop worrying, the GOP is finished
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:55 PM
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11. They pretty much just have to let it die, then ressurrect something new from
the ashes. It may take them 10-20 years to recover. If they don't dump being the party of "make the super rich, richer" they will never get back on track.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:41 PM
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17. It will be back though
so we need to make hay (progress - pass legislation, elect democrats all over, fill any vacancies on SCOTUS and oter courts, etc etc.) while this sun shines. It will not last for ever. Maybe only 12 years.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:32 PM
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3. As much as they have bankrupted our country, fear of losing the election
should be a secondary concern.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:37 PM
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5. Wow. Bay Buchanan, um, makes a really good point there.
Glad that conservatives and liberals can agree on at least one thing, John McCain is a horrible candidate.
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:41 PM
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8. Now we get to see if the Obama campaign can truly control the message
If pro-Obama sentiment outweighs negative, he wins easily
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:42 PM
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18. Obama's campaign in the ensuing months
will have it's ups and downs just like real life but we will persevere:patriot: :bounce: :kick: :party:

That's my thought.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:39 PM
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7. It'll be fun if the GOP brings in some "hip" marketing people to improve McPain's image
They're going to have to do something. I can't wait to see what they come up with. :)
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:42 PM
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9. Rush Limbaugh
He's going to help their credibility :rofl: :rofl:
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:01 PM
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12. You can only go so far marketing chicken shit as chicken salad.
:evilfrown:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:39 PM
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16. Yo! McCain is fresh and fly, ya'll! The man is phat! Word!
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:20 PM
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21. McCain doing rap, dancin' a little hip hop, I cannot even imagine it.
Yo, my name is John McCain ... ?
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:04 PM
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23. they could start with veneers. seriously, he has the money, what's up with those teeth?
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:13 PM
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25. Anybody know where I can invest in turd polish futures?
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:50 PM
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10. Noticing the Media Whores
I've spotted something in just the last few days with those predictable whores that now would be moving to sway the people to "da right". Of course, they want to have people watch their show and think of them as being "right on the money" with their insights. They are doing a lot about the significance of Obama's victory, telling of Repuke criticism and then slashing it to pieces, etc. They know the tide has changed. In fact I heard the historian David Brinkley and David Gergen even saying that just like the swing in the 60's that went right; they believe this will become a similar wave that will wash left.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:16 PM
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26. "this will become a similar wave that will wash left."
I think that's true, and may I just say it's about damn time.

Let's hear it for the end of the Reagan Revolution! :toast:
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:01 PM
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13. (McCain)...."has a personality that is best kept under wraps."
:rofl:

Works for me. :D
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:37 PM
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15. Kind of like this:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:02 PM
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14. DOH!!
:rofl:

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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:43 PM
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19. Be afraid, Rethug fart-wads. Be very afraid.
Boo!

Fired up. Ready to go.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:46 PM
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20. Don't change a hair on McCain's lil puddin head
We like him just the way he is. He'll do just fine. :P

I like Bay's comment: John McCain is relevant only in so far as he is not Barack Obama.

:rofl:
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:55 PM
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22. In Tuesday's speech McCain looked like "cottage cheese in a lime Jell-O salad"
"I think we've got a world of problems," said one Republican strategist with extensive experience in presidential campaigns. He said this came home to him with a thud when he watched Obama and McCain give speeches last Tuesday, with the Democrat speaking before "20,000 screaming fans, while John McCain looked every bit of his 72 years" in a speech televised from New Orleans. This Republican cited the liberal blogger Atrios' description of McCain's speech with a green backdrop that made McCain "look like the cottage cheese in a lime Jell-O salad."

:thumbsup:
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:17 AM
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24. They should be worrying
He's like week-old tuna fish salad on stale Saltines.

I can hardly believe I agree with the likes of Bay Buchanan. Ewwww.
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:21 PM
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27. That sums it up pretty perfectly...
"In reality there is only one candidate. Barack Obama. In November he will win or he will lose. John McCain is relevant only in so far as he is not Barack Obama. The Senator from Arizona is incapable of energizing his party, brings no new people to the polls, and has a personality that is best kept under wraps."

Hear hear!
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:35 PM
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28. GOPers should relax, McCain's got the Win locked!!
Kick back
Take it easy
Ride on W's popularity
The office is guaranteed
No worry about no Democrat pretender
No need to collect money
Deep down, everyone loves the war
No need for attack ads
Just relax
Dems are not serious
No need for 527
Got it made in the shade

GOPers, take my advice.

Seriesly!!!11!

:hi:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:48 PM
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29. I'm not worried about the GOP winning it. I'm always worried about them stealing it.
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