Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Question to those who supported Hillary: Honestly, what do you think about

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:33 PM
Original message
Question to those who supported Hillary: Honestly, what do you think about
Mark Penn and her other staffers? How do you feel about they performance? Do you feel they should be blamed for the outcome of this primary?

This is not an attempt to open wounds or anything- just want to know how do you feel about her team's performance. Did they work as you wanted or expected them to work, or do you feel she was ill-served by them?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:36 PM
Response to Original message
1. Every candidacy is open to some criticism . . .
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 10:37 PM by MrModerate
And let's not forget -- this one was very close.

That having been said, I do think they gaffed a few times too often to win. The combination of Obama's charisma/inspiration and Clinton gaffes (not so much her "old school tie") is what did it in for her.

For me, it was the gas tax holiday, which I classify as a gaffe. After that, I couldn't take her seriously anymore.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I'm not sure that it was just gaffes
It was poor coordination, organizing and planning. That's why they kept losing caucus states and admittedly didn't have a plan after super Tuesday.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:40 PM
Response to Original message
3. you won, why dredge up useless dirt? nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Fuck dude, I'm just asking a question.
Why are you so hostile all the time? It's like you see bad intentions in everything.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:14 PM
Response to Original message
5. Good question, Katz
I was watching Mcauliffe on some news show, can't remember which one, and the reporter asked him if he could do it over, what would he change. And he replied (paraphrasing), "well of course we would put some ground operations in the caucus states that occurred after Super Tuesday. We didn't have any, don't ask me why."

And I though, what do you mean, don't ask you why? You were the fucking chair of her campaign and you didn't have ANY ground operations in the caucus states in Feb?

Both McAuliffe and Penn failed her miserably. If she had had a good ground game in every state, which she deserved to have since she paid these idiots millions of dollars, the outcome might have been different.

But, in the end, the important thing is that we win in November. And I think Barack is on his game, as is Axelrod, and they will get us accross the finish line.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:24 PM
Response to Original message
6. why do you care?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 06:57 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC