BushCo will destroy John Kerry to win this election . . .

[OneBlueSky]

the swift boats business is just the opening salvo . . . the convention will be a four-day Kerry bash, and September and October will see all manner of new stories about Kerry's past emerge . . . these people have no qualms about raining any kind of lies and distortions on their opponents, and would be more than happy to completely destroy Kerry in the process . . .

this is going to be the dirtiest campaign in history, and if Kerry insists on playing nice, he will lose . . . Bush is vulnerable on issue after issue after issue, and Kerry needs to attack him on every one of them and start controlling the day-to-day media agenda . . . if he doesn't, stories like swift boats will dominate the news cycles from now to the election . . . and by Election Day Kerry will be dead and buried . . .

you can't fight a shit storm by trying to dig out of it . . . you have to generate a bigger one of your own . . .

[Ghetto_Boy]

1. Take it to the bank.... Has Rove ever lost? 1 don't know

[NightOwwl]

5. Ghetto-Boy

Have you given up already, or are you hoping you are right? :freak:

[Toucano]

18. Has John Kerry ever lost? n/t

[WilliamPitt]

2. You're right. We're doomed. I'm voting Bush.

[enigmatic]

3. Me too; it's useless...

I might as well put a bullet in my head.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

7. I agree Will.

Do you think we can schedule a mass suicide? How does your day planner look? ;-)

[WilliamPitt]

10. Lemme look

Noon: Despair

1pm: Fashion noose

2pm: Place chair above roof beam

3pm: Etc.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

11. I originally considered...

doing the old, classic "head in the oven" thing, but then I remembered that I have an electric oven. That presents certain problems in the area of efficiency.

Maybe I'll just run my food processor and stick my head in that.

[WilliamPitt]

12. We could always flush ourselves down the toilet

[enigmatic]

13. Right on! That'd be the Zen thing to to!

;)

[Cocoa]

4. Kerry doesn't play nice

he plays smart. Very smart.

[givemebackmycountry]

9. That's right

One of the things we have heard time after time is that when he's cornered, when he's up against the ropes, when the seconds on the clock are quickly running out...

That's when Kerry is at his best.

Here's what I believe.

It will get ugly, very ugly.

Lies and distortions will be fired like so many mortars by Rove and his band of God less assassins.

Someone on the inside, someone that knows something...a name, a date, a fact that can be instantly verified is going to drop a dime on BUSH.

Someone is going to leak something so damaging, so completely insidious that the Bush empire will topple like a house of cards.

I hope.

Hope is a good thing right?

[NightOwwl]

6. Have you seen this thread? It might cheer you up.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=635414&mesg_id=635414

[bigtree]

8. Kerry fires back

CNN report on now. Max Cleland up next.

Where do you get your news? Sounds like you are buying into the republican PR. Why do I see a different campaign? I have posted daily attacks by the Kerry camp. I don't give much credence or place much value in the republican attacks and distortions. All have been refuted by the Kerry Camp. For every story that highlights the smears I can trump you with the reported response from the Kerry campaign and add an attack from Kerry's agenda which speaks directly to the issues and concerns that most affect American voters.

It's Bush who has stepped on any message of substance coming from his camp with the campaign of smears from him and his surrogates. It's the Bush camp who have been reduced to personal attacks that have nothing to do with the issues that most concern voters.

BTW, day-to-day media comprises more than national. Kerry has been excelling in the local media coverage, especially in the key states, where most of Americans get their news.


It takes a worried man
To sing a worried song
It takes a worried man
To sing a worried song
I'm worried now
But I won't be worried long

-Woody Guthrie, 'Worried Man Blues'

[OneBlueSky]

14. I think you're missing my point . . .

which is that negative campaigns work . . . and BushCo is conducting (and will continue conduct) a highly negative campaign . . . and if Kerry is reduced to responding to BushCo attacks, he's playing on their field, when what he should be doing is moving the field and setting at least some of the agenda himself . . .

"But he's doing that!" you say . . . well, he may be trying, but it's not successful . . . because it's the issues that BushCo has raised (swift boats, Kerry's IWR vote, etc.) that are dominating the headlines . . . I agree that he has to respond to every single attack, but he has to do more than that . . . what we need to see are headlines like:

"Kerry: Bush Administration an 'Environmental Disaster'"

"Kerry Says Bush Violations of International Law are Impeachable Offenses"

"Kerry Admits Mistake: 'I Believed the President'"

they're playing dirty hardball, and if all we're doing is catching their shit and throwing it back, we're still playing their game . . . and we're not going to win by playing their game . . . jmho . . .

[bigtree]

17. There is a line in this. If Kerry gets down in the dirt , mudslinging,

then he will be tarred with the same charge of negative campaigning by the general public and his positive agenda may be disregarded. His main focus ahould be to educate the public on his own agenda and positions as the polls show that these are not widely known. With the limited time until the election, most of his effort should be to stay on message and hit Bush where he is weakest(economy and jobs).

You have mischaracterized his campaign as 'playing their game. You can't have it both ways. Kerry can't spend most of his time responding to every utterance by the bushliars, and still elevate his other inituitives.

I'm put off by your portrayal of the efforts the Kerry camp has made so far. I reject the notion that he should be spewing sensationalistic dirt just to get a headline on Fox or CNN. When folks finally tune in to the campaign I want Kerry to have fully fleshed out his agenda, and I want that agenda to include issues that most concern and affect Americans, not tit for tat dirt.

[Triana]

19. aren't you blaming Kerry (partially) for the media's filter?

Sure, he could be uglier and maybe needs to be but when he does launch opening salvos - does the media report them as immediately and widely? I believe they only report bu$hit's and not Kerry's openers.

I think part of it is the way in which it's all being reported, too - is what I'm saying...

[Claire Beth]

15. wrong....

the TREND is changing, slowly but surely. America wants a change. The GOP convention is just preaching to the choir. It will stimulate their base and I agree, they will TRY to ruin Kerry but don't think it'll work.

[kentuck]

16. That is their plan..

ANything and everything short of murder...

[Voltaire]

21. I wouldn't put murder past them either

know what I'm sayin?

[Terran]

20. yeah, we're doomed

Give up. Or pay closer attention. :eyes:

[shivaji]

22. The best defense is a strong offense..................

Kerry can not and should not simply answer back
to all the shit that is being thrown at him by Bushco.
Kerry must start immediately attacking shrub on all of
his failures, and put shrub on the defensive.