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1. Do you support voting systems that are run on 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code, owned and controlled by RIGHTWING BUSHITE corporations, with virtually no audit/recount controls?
Yes or no?
And if you do support the current vote counting system, then I don't care what your opinion is, or what facts you might support it with. You don't believe in democracy. I can't trust the opinion of someone who doesn't understand that non-transparent vote counting, in rightwing corporate control, IS fascism. It is a violation of the most fundamental principle of democracy. And that it has been virtually black-holed by the Republican and Democratic Party leaderships, and by the corporate 'news' monopolies, is the scariest thing I know about the United States of America.
And if you do NOT support this new vote counting system, and if you understand the implications of it, then I ask you: How do you know who won the 2004 election? And, how do you know who won the 2006 elections? Say you wanted to know for sure. What proof would you require? And is that proof available to you?
2. The page of stats you sent me to proves nothing--except that the election was close enough to steal--without raising the suspicions of the majority of people, who were kept completely ignorant of the radical change in the voting system--from transparent to non-transparent--that had been fast-tracked into place during the 2002 to 2004 period (with a $3.9 billion e-voting boondoggle, voted by the Anthrax Congress in the same month as the Iraq War Resolution--Oct 02). I frankly don't think it was that close, when you factor in items like the one million African-American voters who were purged from the voting rolls, prior to the election.
3. The stats you point to are not the issue/approval polls that I was discussing, that show 55% to 60% opposition to the invasion of Iraq, just before the invasion (Feb 03--all polls), and polls on torturing prisoners, Social Security, the deficit and a host of other issues, that show amazing disagreement with Bush (ranging from 60% to 90%) during the 2004-2005 period.
4. Given the fascist/corporate control of the voting machines and of virtually all news and opinion, and the complicity of the corporate 'news' monopolies and of both the Republican and Democratic Party leaderships, on the voting system, on the war, on torture, on spying and on other fascist policy, what makes you think that some polls are not being fiddled, and others conducted honestly, for different purposes? (--say, fiddled polls to support a false 'news' narrative about the election, around election time; and more honest polls when they aren't needed to support false election narratives, and/or to provide the corporate rulers with the info they need, between elections, in order to plan the defeat of the country's anti-war, progressive majority). The polls, the voting machines, the corrupt office holders and the corporate media and their imagery and narratives work together to confuse, disempower and disenfranchise the American people.
I think that it is extremely naive to trust voting machines run on 'TRADE SECRET' code--let alone code controlled by Bushite corporations (--corps with CEOs that were Bush-Cheney campaign chairs and major fundraisers; corps with financing from rightwing billionaires who also support fascist 'christian' foundations with views that would raise the hair on the back of your neck--witch-burning types), and to trust a national political establishment that would TOLERATE such a radical, fascist vote counting system, and who supported aggressive war by the U.S.A., torture and other hideous and illegal actions.
Give me some reason that I should trust them. Tell where, in this country, there are ballots that were actually counted by human beings, and not by 'TRADE SECRET' code machines, in 2004 and 2006. Tell me how, with SEVENTY PERCENT of the American people opposed to the Iraq War and wanting it ended, and saying that this was THE major issue of concern to them in the 2006 elections, we ended up with a Congress that ESCALATED the war and gave Bush/Cheney everything they wanted--billions and billions more of our tax dollars to keep killing, torturing and "occupying" Iraqis.
Prove to me how I can trust the information I read in the New York Times and the Washington Post--after all the egregious lies and disinformation they printed about Iraq.
I think you are being too trusting. And I urge you not to be. Because the consequences of trusting the fuckheads who are running this country could be very dire, indeed--including a nuclear holocaust in the Middle East that could finish off planet earth, oil wars against Iran and against South American democracies, Great Depression II, and poverty and suffering such as we have never seen in this country, even in the first Great Depression.
They are playing with fire--literally, as to war--and economically, with every major indicator pointing to extremely grave problems in all systems (banking, investment, housing, food, loss of jobs to outsourcing, emergency services, the cost of gas, bankruptcy of the airlines, bankruptcy in state budgets, a $10 trillion federal deficit over the decade, and on and on--not to mention the impacts of global warming). "Organized money" (as FDR called it*) has squeezed us dry, and has now become a sort of trans-border, floating country all to itself, with loyalty to no one. We have been sold out. We have been betrayed. We have been fucked over. We are being turned into the biggest "Banana Republic" on earth. And you think that you are being told the truth about who has won our elections? If they throw a lot of shit at you, some of it might stick. That's how much you can trust what you hear/read in our so-called 'news' media. Some of the crap they are throwing sticks in peoples' brains. That it does.
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*("Organized money hates me--and I welcome their hatred." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt)
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