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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:29 AM
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Any Michelle Obama fans here?
I left a comment for Craig Crawford after reading this; his response was "here we go again" and I think I've been blacklisted because I can't respond. This just pissed me off though: feel free to leave any comments at the link-just scroll down.


http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/06/viewing-michelle.html

Viewing Michelle

By Craig Crawford | June 19, 2008 6:00 AM |

Michelle Obama's makeover got off to a rocky start.

Appearing on Wednesday as a guest host on The View, Mrs. Obama was asked by Barbara Walters whether she wanted her husband to be president. Mrs Obama said "no", and then seemed to say he is "sweet and pathetic."

Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor claimed after the program that she had actually said "empathetic." Give her the benefit of the doubt: Empathetic, not pathetic.

Still, Mrs. Obama's appearance on the popular talk show did not go well. Hosts Whoopi Goldberg, Elisabeth Hasselbeck and Sherri Shepherd seemed to instantly realize this, going out of their way to recast her awkward wording.

The Obama camp is reportedly on the case trying to prepare Mrs. Obama for prime time. And there is clearly work to be done.

:eyes:
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:30 AM
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1. lol, " did not go well"? That's contrary to about every single report I've seen!
What an asshole.
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MountainMamma Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:50 AM
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28. I, too, saw The View when Michelle Obama co-hosted
I wish these Republican spin masters would quit telling us what we saw and putting their right slanted interpretation on it. What I saw was a well educated, woman next door who is articulate, intelligent, loves her family, is well grounded from her roots. On top of all of this she has wonderful natural beauty. When Mrs. McCain hosted The View we saw Barbie Doll.

We're going to have to stand up for our candidate and his family til this whole thing is over. Look at the content folks. There is a great difference in these two candidates and their spouses. WHO NEEDS THE MAKE OVER?
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:31 AM
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2. Ya know...

...I think from here til November, the press is going to have to make up drama and issues - especially if Obama pulls ahead to a significant electoral lead, which I expect he will. They gotta create drama to get people to watch and waste their time.


:hi:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:53 AM
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13. I think you are right. Husb2Sparkly had an interesting thread about it last night.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 11:25 AM
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32. I think H2S has a good point.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:32 AM
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3. I watched the clip. He is certainly adding a deliberate negative spin to it.
So I will no longer be visiting that blog.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:35 AM
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4. she said he was "sweet, empathetic, ...." NOT sweet and pathetic". For fucks sake people... geez.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:37 AM
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5. Michell said 'empathetic' not 'pathetic.' What's pathetic is Craig Crawford peddling this bullsh*t!
Is Crawford still smarting that his and his parents' candidate lost? Sounds like it. He ought to be ashamed writing garbage like this.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:41 AM
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7. That's pretty much what I told him; he didn't like it one bit.
And then there's a poster who is defending him, calling him an analyst. :wtf: What makes someone an 'analyst'? An opinion? His is slanted.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:48 AM
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11. Watched the show yesterday to see her. Michelle clearly said, "sweet, empathetic."
Why does Crawford hate the Obamas?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:54 AM
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14. I think I know...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Crawford

Craig Crawford was born in Owensboro, Kentucky.<1> His family moved to Orlando, Florida, where his parents, Toby and Bill Crawford, encouraged his interest in public affairs. While attending Oak Ridge High School, Craig developed an early devotion to Richard Nixon despite his parents allegiance to the Democratic party. While still in high school, Crawford served as a page to Republican Senator Ed Gurney.<2>

n the 2008 Presidential campaign, Crawford drew attention for his vigorous defense of Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton.<6> <7> On Jan 26, 2008, for example, Crawford said, " I really think the evidence-free bias against the Clintons in the media borders on mental illness." <8>
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:13 PM
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38. Well now he sounds "mental" describing
Michelle's guest hosting on The View..and/or really really jealous.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:40 AM
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6. This is pure unadulterated bull.
I've only watched that show a couple times but someone posted a sort of heads up thread here yesterday.

When that statement was misunderstood it was a moment of total levity. . . as if a candidate's wife would EVER suggest such a thing.

There was also that mum who posted the personal letter her 5 year old recently received from Obama where he mentioned empathy and (paraphrasing) told the kid to look the word up if he wasn't familiar with the word.

That made Michelle's misconstrued statement all the more poignant.

I'm not that familiar with Crawford but his commentary is thoroughly bogus in regard to this matter.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:16 PM
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39. Exactly..that's what I was where I was trying to
Edited on Thu Jun-19-08 01:17 PM by zidzi
remember the word "empathy" coming from Obama, recently..thank you, stellanoir!

It's like Empathy is their word and of course ol' craigy wouldn't know that.

Such an obviously weasel "analysis".
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 03:47 PM
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55. Do you have the link to the letter Obama wrote to
our DUer's five year old, stellanoir? I meant to save that to read to my son..thanks!
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Hersheygirl Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:45 AM
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8. Well, I did not see
Cindy McCain get a standing ovation the way Michelle Obama got. I saw the show and she was wonderful. She made Cindy McCain look like a blonde bimbo.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:47 AM
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9. Crawford has become a pathetic shill. His candidate didn't win. He acts like he was on the
payroll. He has lost all credibility.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:50 AM
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12. Yep. I've noticed he's not often asked to be an 'analyst' on many
shows any longer. Seems we're not the only ones noticing.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:48 AM
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10. the hate is strong in this one
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:54 AM
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15. I posted a comment
What a jerk. It would be interesting to see if they post my comment.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:59 AM
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17. Thanks, ellacott. I've half a mind to send this to KO, but I
have doubts he'd speak ill of a colleague he's worked with.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:05 AM
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19. Wow, they posted my comment
The name I used is ReneeM.

I doubt KO would speak ill of him either. I remember when Craig used to be on KO's show all the time. They both were critical of Obama. As the campaign went on KO became more disenchanted with the way the Clinton's ran their campaign and more impressed with Obama's organization. That's when Craig Crawford stopped appearing on the show.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:20 PM
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40. Well, KO could make it clear how wonderful
Michelle was on The View as if the viewers wouldn't realize it no matter what craig crawford's downer piece said.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:08 AM
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21. I tried but it didn't work. I'll give it a go later. nt
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:58 AM
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16. Empathic
I watched her yesterday and I heard empathic. I have a slight hearing loss and I didn't have a problem. It seems like people want to hear the worst from her, no matter what she says. I guess the MSM is fearful of strong, honest women. Instead of applause of how focused she is on her family they invent a gaffe. Go figure.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:59 AM
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18. Craig Crawford still hasn't gotten over the primaries
he was a shill during the primariees and is now a concern troll.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:25 PM
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42. Yeah, Concern Trolls say more about themselves
than any concern they're having.
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kpominville Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:07 AM
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20. Negative Spin
The Republicans will be putting enough negative spin on everything they do.

We need to be supporting our candidate by dismissing the GOP frame and reframing it ourselves, not piling on.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:11 AM
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22. Have you watched the news lately? They are definitely 'piling on'
the Obamas. Just dismissing them and not responding to their junk won't work.
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kpominville Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:21 PM
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51. Reframe, Reframe, Reframe - Avoiding the Con Argument Trap
Of course the conservative corporate media is piling on. We all expected that. I am not saying we should ignore them.

What I am saying is that we need to react differently to their attacks.

Instead of getting caught up in trying to counter every point they make, we need to reply by restating the issue from our frame and try to make them counter our points.

That is how you reframe the debate.
If we do it consistently and stubbornly, they will have no choice but to start addressing our frame of reference.

That is what the Republicans started doing 30 years ago and it has worked very well for them. We may be a little behind but we know what we need to do. We just need to start doing it.

I reccommend everyone check out George Lakoff's books on framing, "Don't think of an elephant" or "Who's Freedom?"

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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:15 AM
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23. WHY'D HE
Have to go and do that.

I DVRed The View, and she did great!

She was VERY well-spoken.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:21 AM
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24. I used why'd he a lot
I have always been able to tell the difference between why'd he and whitey. I am thinking there are a lot of people that really need to get their hearing checked.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:35 PM
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45. That's the first time I ever watched the show. I thought she did great too
:hi:
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:25 AM
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25. I thought Michelle Obama was lovely
and did a great job.

This kind of review just makes Crawford look stupid.
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:26 AM
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26. He is a joke of a journalist
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:32 AM
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27. This is INFURIATING ! He needs to be forced to write a retraction.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 11:15 AM
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30. That's exactly how I felt when I read it; his comment? 'Here we go again'. nt
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 11:03 AM
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29. I wrote this and I too, will probably be banned from posting on his blog, but what the hey...
Edited on Thu Jun-19-08 11:11 AM by Blue_Roses
"Craig,

Come on. I've always liked you and thought you to be fair. What you've said about Michelle Obama is not fair. Did you even bother to watch "the View"? Not only was Michelle Obama gracious, she was swarmed for photos and autographs after the show. The producers spoke extensively about the charisma she exhumed and how impressed they and many of the audience members were with her.

Why do you "reporters" insist on making shit up when it's really nothing there? If you don't really like the person, then just come out and say it without all the sneaky "neerer, neerer," stuff. Come on Craig, do what the late Tim Russert was asking of reporters this political season. Keep to the issues and not the petty "gotcha" stuff. You'll like yourself better in the morning. I promise."


It's really sickening how they write such trivial shit that has nothing to do with what's really going on. I bet he didn't even watch it.:eyes:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 11:16 AM
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31. Thanks for commenting, Blue_Roses. Maybe if enough
people voice their disgust he'll stop his anti-Obama campaign.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:30 PM
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43. Excellent Blue Roses! Really
nice how you brought Tim Russert's last comments in there, too. And his son spoke of that at his dad's funeral.

I didn't know who craig crawford is..I thought he was a repuke. I've heard the name but never checked beyond that.
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 11:33 AM
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33. He KNOWS she said "empathetic"
He obviously needs to get a hearing aid if he didn't understand what she said. He's playing to the low-information voter that won't bother to check his statements.
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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 11:51 AM
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34. Will Barack and Michelle ever learn!?! Stop using all those big words, and you won't get misquoted!
:sarcasm:
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 12:52 PM
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35. as someone who actually saw the show-
I posted.

FWIW-
Who is this bozo?
:crazy:
peace~
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Sheets of Easter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 12:53 PM
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36. Shit, even Pickles gave her a pass.
This guy sucks.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:10 PM
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37. Who's craig crawford and what's his
agenda?

Michelle was perfect on The View and we have the video to prove it.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:25 PM
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41. It's sad when FAUX gives her an "A+" and Crawford pulls THIS BS...
I started a thread yesterday titled, "I've seen it all. Michelle Obama just got an "A+" from an a "Public Relations Consultant" on FAUX" and the message said, "Fraiser Seitel, who was just discussing Michelle Obama's performance on The View called it a "shut out" and a "ten strike," saying she cleared the air and came across as pleasant, personable, and patriotic." He was talking with Shepard Smith."

If she DID say "pathetic" Faux would've jumped all over it. Not even HANNITY said anything about "pathetic" when interviewing the RW Elisabeth Hasselbeck yesterday about Michelle's appearance.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:33 PM
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44. Poor craig crawford..outted
himself for the sore loser he is. No wonder I didn't know who he was.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:06 PM
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47. You didn't know who he was? He was a shameless shill for Hillary...
Edited on Thu Jun-19-08 02:08 PM by jenmito
agreeing with everything she and her surrogates, including Geraldine Ferraro, said.

(Oops-I forgot you said you don't watch tv I think. He was always on MSNBC.)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:14 PM
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48. That's right..I miss all that. 'Course
I saw his name on DU but nothing ever really took. He's not a dem..he would be tombstoned at DU.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:16 PM
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49. "Nothing ever really took."
:D Good-it would've been a waste of brain space. :hi:
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 01:41 PM
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46. Fortunately, most folks who watch The View don't read CQ Politics
Her appearance on The View was to reach out to people who aren't normally into politics. Although I didn't watch it, it sounds like she did a great job.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:32 PM
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52. We have it in Political Videos :)
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:18 PM
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50. gawud dang friggin f***kwad - I'm cussin like Yosemite Sam and Popeye
I'll forgo ventilating further
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:33 PM
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53. Yay....
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:42 PM
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54. "Prepare her for prime time"?
:wtf:

She's been ready.

She doesn't need handlers.
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