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Mon Jun-30-08 12:43 PM
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McCain and his surrogates claim Wes Clark's comment part of a pattern... |
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Edited on Mon Jun-30-08 12:49 PM by jenmito
When McCain was asked how he felt about Wes Clark's comment, he said it's been a pattern by many other Obama surrogates and supporters who have said similar things. Then Frank Donnitelli, McCain supporter, was just shown Obama's speech where he praised McCain's service AND said it's wrong for ANYONE to question his patriotism-even from his own side-and was asked if that was good enough for him, and he said it's a START, but it's just part of a pattern of many of Obama's surrogates and supporters, including MoveOn.org. :wtf:
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Mon Jun-30-08 12:44 PM
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1. A pattern of questioning the qualifications of someone who is ill suited |
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to be president? Hell yes it is!
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Mon Jun-30-08 12:48 PM
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6. I agree it's right to question McCain's qualifications to be president because he was tortured |
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in Vietnam, but the media painted is as him questioning his PATRIOTISM. And he NEVER questioned his patriotism, as a matter of fact, they never play the first part of what Clark said, that he praises McCain's service.
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Mon Jun-30-08 01:12 PM
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17. It's classic case of false republican framing |
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it's their bread and butter tactic.
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Mon Jun-30-08 01:17 PM
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19. Yup. It's a shame the media goes along with it. n/t |
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Mon Jun-30-08 12:53 PM
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9. Clark did not question his patriotism |
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He said being shot down and a POW didn't qualify him to be president. Not the same thing at all.
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Mon Jun-30-08 01:13 PM
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18. Exactly, it's another case of deceptive republican framing |
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it's their favorite weapon in their arsenal of lies and deceptions.
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Mon Jun-30-08 02:40 PM
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23. and it was the INTERVIEWER who brought up the "McCain was shot down" |
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as the talking point ... Clark was probably set up ...
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Mon Jun-30-08 12:45 PM
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2. And Obama's "word cannot be trusted"? |
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Do you think Obama is a liar????? Get off your fucking high horses!
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Mon Jun-30-08 12:46 PM
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3. Oh, there's a pattern alright |
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A pattern of repubs that lie and cheat and steal and then whine when anyone challenges them.
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Mon Jun-30-08 12:51 PM
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8. Exactly. And I don't recall anyone ever questioning Bush's surrogates swiftboating KERRY. |
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Disgusting how biased the media is.
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Mon Jun-30-08 12:46 PM
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4. Mccain's comments were before Obama's speech differing with Clark's statement... |
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Mon Jun-30-08 12:49 PM
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7. Where did Obama's speech differ with anything Clark said about Obama? |
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I would love to have that part pointed out to me.
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Mon Jun-30-08 01:06 PM
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16. Me too! I haven't seen or heard where Obama's speech differed at all.... |
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Obama clearly said he would NOT question McCain's service or patriotism, Clark did NOT question either. He, too, clearly stated he honored McCain's service, said NOTHING wrt McCain's patriotism. Where is the difference?
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Mon Jun-30-08 12:55 PM
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10. I know. But what does that have to do with McCain saying it's part of a PATTERN? |
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Mon Jun-30-08 12:47 PM
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5. We know JSM III surrogates lie through their teeth |
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General Clark did not question Senator John Sidney McCain III's patriotism. All he said was being a POW doesn't necessarily equate to being qualified to be Commander in Chief.
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Mon Jun-30-08 12:56 PM
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11. Exactly. I hope someone points that out... |
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like Olbermann or even Abrams.
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Mon Jun-30-08 12:57 PM
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12. Part of a pattern of what a tremendous dickhead John McCain is. |
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Mon Jun-30-08 12:58 PM
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Mon Jun-30-08 01:01 PM
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15. And they can quote me on that. 'John McCain is a dickhead.' |
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Mon Jun-30-08 01:18 PM
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Mon Jun-30-08 03:47 PM
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24. Maybe we can get like a collective message out. |
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From us at Democratic Underground: Senator McCain, you sir, are a dickhead, and a douchebag.
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Mon Jun-30-08 01:21 PM
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Mon Jun-30-08 01:00 PM
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14. Who is questioning patriotism? (Besides the Republicans) |
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Saying that being shot down does not give a person instant national security credentials is not an attack, it's a statement of the obvious.
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Mon Jun-30-08 01:18 PM
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21. Exactly. But the media is portraying it as questioning his patriotism. |
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Mon Jun-30-08 04:53 PM
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25. The best form of action is for a moveon ad to defend clark in some way. |
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