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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:47 AM
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Howard Dean made the cover of Newsweek, Jan. 12 issue
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 11:48 AM by WilliamPitt


The Dean Dilemma

ALL THE RAGE: His blunt talk's propelled him to the top, but some Democrats worry that Dean's shoot-from-the-hip style and shifting views might doom him in November. The doctor's ills—and how his foes plan to exploit them

By Howard Fineman
Newsweek

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3869798/

Jan. 12 issue - The murmurs of doubt are faint, barely audible above the background hum of the Internet cosmos, but they are worth listening to at the moment, for the doubters don't seem to be "trolls"—provocateurs in digital disguise—and they express concerns about their favorite son, Dr. Howard Dean, in the bosom of his own blogosphere.

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"Dammit, tell him to get his mouth under control!" says "WVMicko" on a forum conducted by Dean's official Web site. "He's been all over the map on a lot of things, and the way he shoots off his mouth is a big reason why." A poster to the site named "Lancaster" frets that his wife is put off by Dean's confrontational personality. "Her initial reaction to Dean? 'That guy scares me.' Now, I'm not a full-fledged Deanie, but I'm strongly leaning that way ... but she's still not convinced that Dean is the right guy for the job." A writer named "irmaly" also views Dean's personality as a vulnerability. "I am a strong Dean supporter," irmaly declares, "but I think the campaign is missing this most important point—the need to focus strongly on getting up over the perception of 'mean, angry Dean.' Dean is portrayed as a man who, rather than share a beer in a local hangout, will fight you for yours. I realize this isn't true, but Bush and Company knows perception is everything, and they have already had some success at seriously hurting Dean on this perception. I don't know how you get up over this, but you have to, or we will lose."

Like the meteoric Internet start-up he in many ways resembles, Dr. Howard Dean is poised to merge with—or conduct a hostile takeover of—an "old media" conglomerate, the Democratic Party. For now, the country doctor and former Vermont governor remains the odds-on favorite to win its presidential nomination in a voting process that, technically, began last week when the Michigan party began accepting e-mail requests for e-mail ballots. The first events in the physical territory of politics take place later this month: the Iowa caucuses on the 19th, the New Hampshire primary on the 27th. Of the nine candidates in the race, Dean has raised the most money, claims to have the most cash on hand and has the lead in all the national polls and in those early-voting states, too.

Yet no one since Jimmy Carter has risen to front-runnerhood in quite the way Dean has: as a largely invisible outsider catapulted to a commanding position without so much as a nod from the Beltway political kingmakers. Dean's blunt, combative persona—and his opposition to George W. Bush's war in Iraq—allowed him to rocket to the top via the Internet. But, on the center stage of traditional politics, he's a controversial figure, launching attacks but airily refusing (especially now that he's ahead in the polls) to answer charges of his rivals; given to fights for their own sake, not-so-subtle adjustments of positions, sloppy statements and seemingly self-inflicted wounds. Thus far, the resulting dust-ups haven't hurt him. In fact, they may have done the opposite, inspiring team spirit among Deanies and branding him vividly as the kind of anti-establishment, hell-for-leather, shin-kicker who grass-roots Democrats want to lead them into mortal combat against the presidential imperium.

Still, there are doubts about Dr. Dean—and a desire to get a second opinion before accepting his diagnosis. The occasional whispers on his blog are amplified to a deafening roar elsewhere—by rivals on the campaign trail who are honing strategies (and sometimes plotting with each other) to stop him; by Beltway insiders, especially Clinton loyalists, who fear (correctly) that Dean represents a changing of the guard, and by Republicans in and out of the White House who cannot wait to get their hands on a man they—and many Democrats—see as a composite reincarnation of big-time losers such as George McGovern, Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis.

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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:50 AM
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1. Same old same old from Fineman
but Dean is a big boy and he can handle it. I think back to '76, the first campaign I was old enough to understand and remember that there was ABC movement all the way up to the Democratic convention led by late entrys Frank Church and Jerry Brown. But after Carter was nominated, he unified the party. Dean will do so as well.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:50 AM
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2. This sort of thing gains him votes
It gains Dean votes from those people who can't stand George Bush and who believe that the Democrats have no message, no unity. I think there's an element of "if the Republicans and Democrats both hate him, he's my guy".
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sfecap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:52 AM
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3. Fineman quotes trolls on a Blog...
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 11:53 AM by sfecap
...so much for journalistic ethics. Did he track them down and interview them?

But hey...at least it's Dean's face on that cover and not Kerry's. :-)

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:58 AM
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13. but....but....he said they weren't trolls
All the sudden, some guy's wife on some guy's blog has some MAJOR pull.

What a cover like this ran 2 weeks before the general election?
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:37 PM
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26. and how does he even know they aren't trolls?
anyone can fake an e-mail address on there....
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:52 AM
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4. Even I didn't get it at first
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 11:55 AM by joefree1
Americans are tired of overly slick Politicians. Dean speaks from his heart. The mass of political groomers and sycophants are looking at a dreary job future if the Doctor gets into the White House.


Images from Dean Rocks the House of Blues, Hollywood
From wtmusic http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=919849
From Joefree1 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=921300

On Edit: You might want to trim your post to four paragraphs per DU rules. :)
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:57 AM
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11. They are sick of slick politicians AND of guys like Fineman
who are over-producers of the Trite Metaphor...

:puke:

Honestly, this Newspeak gets on my nerves sometimes.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:52 AM
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5. It's not a cover story you want
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 11:56 AM by Jack_Dawson
But I will say this, at least the media is actually putting him under the same microscope Clark has been under since the first second of his campaign. Methinks Dean might implode under the pressure.
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sfecap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:55 AM
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9. Clark under the microscope?
LOL.

Riiiiight...

They haven't even begun to look at him.

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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:57 AM
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10. Dean has gotten a free pass, Clark has not
But that pass appears to be over. Should be an interesting Spring...
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:12 PM
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19. Free pass?
When was that, I must have missed it.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:58 AM
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12. I respectfully disagree
Dean has been under a greater microscope than any candidate because he is the front runner. If Clark does begin to make movement the media will put him under a much larger microscope such as they have done with Dean.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:59 AM
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14. Are you kidding
Just wait. I think Clark is a great guy but he has not experience any of the debate shots and sniping that Dean has got.

Still, they need to go through it. We need a presidential candidate forged in fire. The Bushies will not give us any mercy.

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:53 AM
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6. Blah, blah, blah
the mediawhore Goreing of Dean is in full swing - welcome to 2004
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:54 AM
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7. question regarding journalism...
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 11:56 AM by GloriaSmith
The comments from Dean supporters were taken off the blog. Does Newsweek or anyone else need permission to use these comments in a feature story or is it assumed every comment is on the record?

If the comments can be used without permission, then there needs to be a disclaimer telling posters of this on the blog. I imagine all the campaigns would want to look into doing this.

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:54 AM
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8. 'Doubts' made the headline, not Dean
although the doubts are practically a footnote in the story :eyes:
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 02:10 PM
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30. That's good! It puts the losing DLC on notice.
Maybe thats why groups of Dem leaders, like the ones in NY now trying to broker a backroom "peace deal" with the Dean campaign, are shaking in their privileged boots about now.


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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:59 AM
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15. "shifting views"
Gee, that sounds familiar.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:00 PM
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16. Democrats are well known for their "worrying"
It's one of our trademarks. But what has it gotten us?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:11 PM
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18. Right on. Not to worry.... Remember, he is the front runner, at this point
the best of the Dems. Dean is not a perfect man, neither is Bush.

Dean will make mistakes but he is doing more than something right, he is the front runner out of 9, which should make him somewhat special.

He has a way with the crowds, a message for hungry ears.

We should appreciate this man, he can take us to the promised land.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:09 PM
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17. dupe, here's a link
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:13 PM
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20. Woop dee doo. Big surprise that the media gives him more
coverage than the others. Woop dee doo.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:44 PM
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27. Press plane in June. 2 national covers in July and now Jan. primary time.
No other candidate even got ONE cover.

Guess Frank Luntz wouldn't allow it.

ALL attention is good for name recognition.

Why does anyone think that Lieberman was the frontrunner in polls for so long? People KNEW his name. Now the only name they hear for the last 8 months is Dean.
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 02:08 PM
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29. meme #129
From the annotated handbook.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:19 PM
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21. And a FINE cover it is!
:evilgrin:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:36 PM
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22. kick
We want this cover to be SEEN, right? :evilgrin: A fine cover.

:kick:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:01 PM
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23. Darn!
This thread keeps dropping like a lead balloon. I can't quite figure out why.

People want to see this fine cover and read the excellent article that accompanies it. So....

:kick:
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:31 PM
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24. Rove and Cheney
wait patiently in their duck blind

Ka Booooooooooooooooooom

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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 02:05 PM
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28. With a gorilla for company
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 02:05 PM by DancingBear
waiting for dinner.
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:35 PM
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25. Good read...thanks William!
:hi:
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31. dupe
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