Lance Armstrong? Endorsing McCain? I thought he cared about helping the cause?

[Thrill]

Yet he endorses the candidate that has no plan to help people who struggle to pay for Healthcare??

[niyad]

1. any positive thoughts I had about armstrong are gone now, regardless of his achievements

[cliffordu]

22. It was a cancer benefit. Please do the research before the vilification.

[Hoof Hearted]

61. Burn him! (Oh wait, that's for witches) OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

Take away his bicycle!........... :eyes:

[niceypoo]

68. Just after he won his last tour de France, he was on TV whining...

RW talking points about 'the French'

He is a tool..

[anonymous171]

2. Probably identifies with McCain's marital history.

I hope they go on a bike ride together. :evilgrin:

[TooBigaTent]

3. Exactly. The scumbag (s) dumped the wife who stood by them for a newer model.

[cliffordu]

26. Armstrong and his wife split, and she still works for his foundation, they

see each other on a regular basis due to the children. Completely different than McCain.

Get it right, please, BEFORE you slime him.

[blm]

4. I doubt it. Armstrong appears with ANY cancer survivor speaking for that cause.

I don't see this as an endorsement.

[AnnieBW]

60. It certainly didn't look like one

It looked like Lance or his foundation were endorsing McSame.

Okay, fine. McSame is a cancer survivor. I can respect that. So was John Kerry, and you didn't see Lance supporting HIM.

[YOY]

5. He's a dick. Left his wife and kids for a musician once he made it big.

Guess who helped him through that cancer. The wife and kids or Cheryl crow?

He's marketed himself everywhere with those douchebag rubberbands. He's got craploads of money and now it's time to protect it even if it would have been in his interests before he got famous. Just like those idiots who write Southpark.

[endarkenment]

11. Left Crow after she got breast cancer

although she has never stated that this was a reason for the breakup. Crow is an upfront antiwar and environmental activist, and Armstrong is a rightwingtard. I suspect that might have had something to do with their splitting up.

[YOY]

14. No surprise.

n/t

[cliffordu]

21. Not true. Do your research.

[Tyler Durden]

24. fun to have people jump your shit for no good reason....

...isn't it?

[cliffordu]

27. I think Armstrong can handle the heat.

My favorite story was the French press claiming that Armstrong was actually STRONGER after the chemo because his immune system and blood had been "purified".....

[Tyler Durden]

55. Agreed in spades on Armstrong....

I was talking about you. The sharks circle when they smell blood...not always a morally correct thing to be a shark.

I'm on your side with this one: Cancer Survivors and Victims in my family.

[springhill]

54. That is absolutely false...............

She found out about her breast cancer AFTER they broke up. It's one thing to not like him, but please don't make things up.

[question everything]

6. Are you sure he is endorsing him?

Or just appearing with him to promote cancer awareness?

[Imagevision]

7. Lance Armstrong is an *sshole, even George Carlin said so!

[blm]

8. Brent - I HIGHLY doubt this is true. Don't spread a rumor. Armstrong appears with a LOT of

cancer survivors speaking out about cancer awareness.

Please be careful.

[endarkenment]

12. and how does that correlate with supporting or not supporting mccain?

[blm]

35. He's NOT supporting McCain. Obama was invited to this conference, too.

.

[Thrill]

38. There is a reason for the question mark

[blm]

47. Yes - but you should've been clearer that you had no real info to base the ?

.

[Midlodemocrat]

9. He's a douchebag. And, yes, it's true.

:puke:

[Ron Green]

10. I fitted him for a new bike in 1987 at a store in Texas.

He could go fast, even then, but he was an arrogant kid. Probably 15 or 16 years old.

[cliffordu]

31. Was that during the time when he was ranked nationally in the top 50

Ironman athletes ?

I like a person who's hubris is matched by actual accomplishments.

[Ron Green]

39. He was a real phenom even then,

and ranked even higher than that, as I recall. I believe he was the state road champ as well. This was when he lived in Richardson, before he moved to Austin.

[niyad]

40. do you think you could learn the difference between who's and whose?

[cliffordu]

42. When in doubt, avoid the question and the issue. I wasn't paying attention and

re-wrote the sentence....bad proof. I do know the difference.

You, on the other hand, COULD use caps at the beginning of your sentences. 'Specially when you're (yore) handing out grammatical advice.

[niyad]

50. oh, cute. slight difference--in case you have never read cummings.

I wasn't "handing out grammatical advice", I was asking you a question. but, keep trying, you might score a point eventually.

[cliffordu]

53. I've read Cummings, I know Cummings. You, squeaky, are no Cummings.

[geek tragedy]

13. STOP SPREADING FALSE BULLSHIT.

He did NOT endorse McCain.

[niyad]

15. but he was hanging out with him at a campaign appearance. so what do we conclude from this?

[geek tragedy]

18. It wasn't a campaign event, it was his cancer organization

holding an event and McCain accepted an invitation to attend.

Obama can and probably will attend such an event for him.

[blm]

36. A cancer forum that Obama was invited to appear, as well.

Sheesh.

[MrSlayer]

57. To quote the late, great George Carlin : "Fuck Lance Armstrong!"

And that goes for whether he endorsed McCain or not.

[road2000]

16. Sorta recall...

Didn't he go biking with George on the pig farm?

[niyad]

34. ah, thanks for reminding me. I knew there was something about him that had already pissed me off.

THAT wasn't a cancer benefit event.

[awoke_in_2003]

59. Yes he did

while lobbying to get more money for cancer research. Had Kerry been the pres, he would have ridden with him.

[Cosmocat]

67. Yes ... Has always been right leaning AND ...

seems to have the bug to get into elective politics ...

IMO, he is going to be a high level guy for the GOP once he gets going - as others noted, his personal life certainly fits the mold ...

[Bleacher Creature]

17. NOT TRUE.

McCain is appearing at a cancer forum hosted by Armstrong in Ohio today. Armstrong invited both McCain and Obama, but Obama declined for obvious reasons. Armstrong has hosted numerous candidates this year, including both Edwards and Clinton.

He is NOT endorsing McCain.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-07-23-armstrong-mccain_N.htm?csp=34

[grantcart]

69. thank you

[billyoc]

19. Remember, Armstrong is an asshole whether or not he endorses McAncient.

[cliffordu]

23. Yes, but he did more on a bicycle and more to find a cure for cancer

than you ever will.

You don't win the Tour 7 times by being anything other than a complete asshole.

[tabasco]

32. You don't blindly worship idols

by being anything other than an asshole.

A person can achieve greatness in athletics without being an asshole, dumbass.

[cliffordu]

33. Yes, that's true. But not for you.

[niyad]

41. tell me something. why exactly do you think he needs such a vociferous defense from you?

[cliffordu]

45. I just love the "me too" pile on by folks who would rather believe the worst about

someone who is, after all, human.

You don't do what he did without being an alpha male. I raced bicycles locally and he is a mild case compared to the complete assholes I raced against.

It takes an individual with exceptional gifts to win races even as a local yokel. To be a domestique in the tour means you are probably in the top 1/10th of 1% in the world. To win a stage means you are gifted even in that world, and to win the tour means, simply that you have athletic gifts that are nearly beyond measure, the ability to suffer like few humans willingly do, and the uncompromising drive to compete without compromise. Eddie Merxx wasn't called 'The Cannibal' for nothing.

No fact checking pisses me off worse than anything. Supermarket tabloid/ennertainment tonight bullshit being passed off as fact.

Like the John Edwards story of a couple days ago.

Fact is his first wife just couldn't take the endless travel that is professional cycling. Their split was less than hostile...She was on Oprah and as hard as Oprah tried, she just couldn't get Kristen Armstrong to shit on Lance.

And he IS an asshole. But he didn't dump the wife ala McCain, didn't dump Crow when she got cancer - actually, Crow dumped him before he knew-- because she knew after telling him she would be seen as the Armstrong Foundation Cancer Girl rather than a singer/songwriter.

He ain't my friend, but he isn't McCain either.

And I don't give a shit who he endorses. His endorsement means as much as mine, or less....


And I placed last in every race I rode. But my first race was at 50, single speed cyclocross. Nice.

[niyad]

48. interesting--a question about your defense of armstrong turns into your bio.

by the way, I don't read tabloids, so kindly do not mention them in a response to me, as though mentioning the tabloids somehow overrides my own questions and observations. nice try, but you really have to do better.

[cliffordu]

52. Not for you.

[billyoc]

43. Well, at least there's an explanation. Thanks for clearing that up.

[progdog]

20. He's in the pocket

Of big pharmaceutical companies.

[otohara]

25. He Dated 22 Year Old Ashley Olsen

yuck - let the pukes have him.

[cliffordu]

28. LOL

[book_worm]

29. I've never really liked him since he up and left his wife and went Hollywood.

[cliffordu]

30. It was an amicable split, she still runs a portion of the Foundation.

Please do the research instead of reading the Enquirer for your "facts".

[OutNow]

37. Lance Armstrong - Bush's Buddy

Lance Armstrong flew in AF 1 with to Texas with Bush. He then came to Crawford when thousands of people were at Camp Casey supporting Cindy Sheehan's vigil. He ignored us and went mountain biking with Bush. Typical Texas Repub asshole.

Compare him to another Austin Texas icon, Willy Nelson. When the local electric company was "too busy" to connect power at Camp Casey, Willy donated his bio-diesel generator to use, with no publicity.

Just sayin.........

[cliffordu]

46. And right after Armstrong did that photo op and bike ride, Bushey instigated some

fucking cancer program that eventually never got funded...Likened it to going to the moon.

And you are right - Willie is a much better guy. I got stoned with him once.

I think.

[Hippo_Tron]

49. As I recall he also made a public appearance with John Kerry

Lance is not political and schmoozes with anyone who will get more money for cancer research. Just because he didn't want to sabotage his own cause by making a meaningless gesture toward yours, doesn't mean he is a bad person.

[AllentownJake]

44. I generally have and always will look down

at anyone with those stupid yellow bracelets.

I have since they first came out.

Saying your against cancer is like saying your against kicking puppies.

[Catchawave]

51. Should stay neutral for his cause....

As Al Gore(environment) and John Edwards(poverty) should have.

[mwb970]

56. Armstrong is a worthless tool.

I don't care how well he rides a bike. How important is that, anyway?

[TexasObserver]

58. Cheryl Crow got me in their split, so naturally, I don't like him.

I felt her politics was a problem for him, so it's an easy choice for me. Besides, she actually has a useful talent. Riding a bike? Yeah, he was great at it, riding with the US Post Office team, right? I'm sure somewhere there's a Curling Champion who is really good at what he does, too. I'm just not impressed with people who spend their entire lives being really good at something like riding a bike in France.

[Mr. Blonde]

62. His talent has enabled him to do a lot for cancer research

what exactly has hers done?

What to you would have been a better thing for him to have done? Discovered he was good at riding a bike and then discard it? Seems like a dumb thing to not use the gifts you are blessed with.

[LostinVA]

63. Sheryl Crow has used her celebrity to help many progressive causes

As had Armstrong, Ashely Judd, Angelina Jolie, et al.

Lance didn't endorse McCain or Bush, his politics are known to be socially progressive, he did not leave his wife for another woman (they are still quite close), he did not leave Crow because she had cancer. I will give him a black mark because of the Olsen twin, but not because of her age.

He is far from being a saint, and is an arrogant jerk on occasion, but the vitriol thrown at him by DUers (as well as that against Oprah) has always confounded me.

[Mr. Blonde]

66. I'm sure some of it in Lance's case is

that he was taken on as some kind of conservative idol because his winning was "sticking it to the damn dirty French".

Add to that the things that are easily turned around like divorcing his wife and all that. And to a lot of people on here anyone seen with Bush is highly suspect.

And any black marks he has for an Olsen twin is more than made up for by the current Kate Hudson. She sure has a thing for Texas boys lately. She should look to Texas' northern border next time.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

64. What is his reason for supporting McCain?

[npincus]

65. No wonder Sheryl dumped his sorry ass.

Listen, any guy who dumps his wife & 3 kids when he gets a bit of fame, to jump from celeb blonde to blonde is a shit-head in my book. Sounds like a Repub to me.