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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:49 PM
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NYT: Clinton Doesn’t Seem to Be High on Obama’s List
WASHINGTON — When Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton abandoned her bid for the presidency and endorsed Senator Barack Obama in June, she made clear that she was interested in becoming his running mate, and Mr. Obama and his associates signaled respectfully that she would get full consideration.

But there is mounting evidence that Mr. Obama’s interest in Mrs. Clinton for the post has faded considerably, if, in fact, she ever really was a strong contender to be on the ticket with him.

In conversations, Mr. Obama’s advisers discuss Mrs. Clinton’s role at the Democratic convention next month in a way that suggests they are not thinking of her arriving in Denver as Mr. Obama’s running mate.

When Mr. Obama appeared Sunday on “Meet the Press” on NBC he offered a description of the kind of person he was looking for, hinting that it would not be someone who was identified strongly with Washington, a choice that would appear to leave out Mrs. Clinton. His associates said this description reflected the lack of serious thought being given to Mrs. Clinton for the post.

The feeling goes both ways. Mrs. Clinton has told associates in recent days that she thinks there is little chance Mr. Obama will pick her and that she views the public pronouncements by some of Mr. Obama’s aides that she is under review as nothing more than a courtesy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/29/us/politics/29dems.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:52 PM
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1. Obama will not choose a woman n/t
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:58 PM
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4. Are you suggesting he's sexist?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:08 PM
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6. Obama will choose the best one for the job
description whomever it is.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:01 PM
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12. no
he will pick whoever he thinks will get him the most votes
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:25 PM
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16. You're wrong but you don't really get Obama so
I'm not surprised.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 10:28 PM
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20. no
he will pick whoever he believes will get him the most votes and that's pretty much what they ALL do - get your fucking head out of your ass
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:09 PM
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7. Hopefully not.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:23 PM
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8. no
Edited on Mon Jul-28-08 08:25 PM by Skittles
I'm saying his VP pick will not be a woman - want me to expand? It won't be a black person either.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:25 PM
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9. Ok
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:54 PM
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2. NYT = the sonorous voice of the obvious. (nt)
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 07:58 PM
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3. Not unexpected, but this makes me sad somehow.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 11:14 PM
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22. Why does she even want it?
I can't for the life of me figure out why she'd be interested in being his VP. If she doesn't think he can win she's better off not being on the ticket. And if she does think he can win she still might be better off staying in the Senate and becoming a powerhouse than being VP for 4 or 8 years. She's well known and strong enough that she could challenge whoever Obama's VP is for the nomination in 8 years...she does not need to VP to run for president again. So the fact that she even wants to be on the ticket is a little strange to me. Maybe she just wants to make history as the first female VP if she can't be the first woman president.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:01 PM
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5. Maybe, Senator Clinton would not opt for such a designation.
She doesn't strike me as someone who runs second to anyone.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:31 PM
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10. Yeah, they are probably correct.
I guess she's not good enough to be on the ticket, but still good enough to be expected to campaign her heart out and rally the troops around our nominee. Ditto for Bill.

:(
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:40 PM
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11. If Hillary had won the nomination
And Obama had said all the same things she has said about him during the primaries, and the republicans had already started running ads using what he had said about her not being qualified for the job of president, and you knew that if she picked him as her VP the republicans would be using every sound bite he had used against her qualifications, would you be wanting her to pick "him" for her VP? Just curious.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:08 PM
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14. No, he just said different things
or, wisely, had his "campaign" say those things instead of doing it himself.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:50 PM
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19. Do you think
That the republicans won't be using all those things she said in ads against Obama? Do you think that it would help him or hurt him to run those ads where she is saying he is not qualified to be president? What I am saying is when one candidate has said things that can be used effectively against a running mate, it is not wise to pick that person to run with you. If Hillary were the nominee I and Obama had said what she said, I would NOT be wanting him as the VP either, it would make no sense at all.


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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 12:28 AM
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26. Reagan/Bush, JFK/LBJ...
Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 12:28 AM by MonkeyFunk
it's not a deal-killer.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:06 PM
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13. I think what's missing is the trust factor
I can't see them working together, no matter who was at the top of the ticket.
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:16 PM
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15. Why? I think they look great together.
Edited on Mon Jul-28-08 09:17 PM by elkston
I think Hillary is closely following Barack to see what he is made of. Each day she is becoming more convinced that he can win this thing. And with that, she becomes further disarmed, and more drawn to him.

She wants to help him win. She yearns for his approval and respect. I beleive she would be delighted to be his VP. Governing by his side as confidant, champion, and friend.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:34 PM
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18. Duh. Just like every other Democrat who isn't Obama's VP.
Edited on Mon Jul-28-08 09:35 PM by tabasco
Still expect a pity party, don't you?

:cry:
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 11:16 PM
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23. She promised that she would
I wouldn't have necessarily expected her to do so, but she promised during the primaries that she would work her heart out for whoever the nominee was, and I hope she keeps her promise.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:32 PM
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17. Thank God and the angels in the heavens!!!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 11:04 PM
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21. ditto
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 11:18 PM
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24. anyone who purposely and repeatedly fabricated events in Bosnia is not worthy
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 11:21 PM
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25. I believe Obama will be making a huge mistake if she isn't on the ticket.
But we'll see...
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 12:47 AM
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27. at least Hillary can accept reality
if only her supporters were as rational
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 12:56 AM
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28. And why should she be?
Considering she had to be dragged kicking and screaming to end her campaign and to endorse the man, why would he choose her over so many other smart, talented folks who've supported him from Day 1??

I'll always like Hillary. But she has about as much business being Obama's VP as my drunk Uncle Joe....
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