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Mon Aug-23-04 01:01 PM
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Dole wants an apology from Kerry re statements made 30 years ago |
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Kerry should tell Dole STFU.
They want to cast Kerry as the Nam boogie man for coming home to tell the truth...That War is a shitty fuckin business and that shit happens. Kids killed, maimed, atrocities, murder, rape, etc etc including "fragging"...
And for this they hate him? look at him as a traitor? The facts show he and others did not lengthen the war, they shortened it...meaning the effort "Saved Lives".
The Pubs like to shoot the messengers who bring bad news, they refuse to listen to bad news unless its absolutely necessary.
But if we look to the photos and the reports of this current conflict, in a way, Kerry was right. Our Military has a segment that will rape, kill, maim, torture, etc. We are aLL NOT PERFECT and the prison scandles confirms.
The Pub Masters want to confuse the already muddled sheep with a blitz of crap knowing the average guy out there can handle only so much
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:03 PM
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1. Bob Dole should take some Viagra... |
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:58 PM
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13. Better than to bed with the Hag..... |
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:04 PM
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2. Maybe Dole is the one to apologize...? |
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to John Kerry? It was despicable what he said.
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:59 PM
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14. How UNAMERICAN of Dole to open his mouth in this manner. |
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He is a loser and he knows it......
A Bitter ole man he is....
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:05 PM
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3. I've got some advice for Dole |
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Wish in one hand, shit in the other, and see which one fills up first.
(Any irony relating to Dole's crippled hand is mostly unintentional.)
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Mon Aug-23-04 02:00 PM
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15. Mercy on him mercy on him for he has a damaged BRAIN |
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:05 PM
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4. OK, Bob. Why don't you just hold your breath until JK apologizes? |
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Bob Dole MUST apologize for his lies to Leslie Blitzer. Period.
JK gave voice to millions of us who protested the Police Action in Vietnam. No apology. Period.
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Mon Aug-23-04 02:03 PM
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16. We lost 55000 dead, 746581 wounded and I lost my friend to Agent Orange |
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WTF FOR????
Kerry helped END THE FUCKING INSANITY. He SAVED LIVES in doin so...
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:06 PM
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deserves an apology from the odious Congressmen who back in the sixties supported this awful war.
Kerry and Edwards will have their own apologies to make later.
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Mon Aug-23-04 02:07 PM
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17. No one is perfect Kerry included, BUT when you compare Bush to him |
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its a no brainer.....Bush has no brain, no Heart, no compassion, no courage, no altruism, no benevolence, no vision, no plans for the Nation, no future for the Planet, no nothing....
Bush is a loser and he trying to look good by making the other guy look bad....
Typ Pub Trick but it ain't gonna work. America is ANGRY of being HAD by the PUBs....Get Over it Bush
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:10 PM
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America voted on Bob Dole and all his policies and his integrity in 1996. Bob Dole lost; just like Bush.
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Mon Aug-23-04 02:08 PM
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18. Out of touch, out of Mind, out of Luck, Out of Votes.... |
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What can I say....sounds like a loser to me....
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:18 PM
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7. The media decided that Dole's comments were the big news yesterday |
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Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 01:19 PM by Democat
Once again, the Republicans got the last word yesterday as Dole's comments became the Swift Liars big news of the day.
We keep getting our asses kicked day after day in the right wing media.
I was hoping Kerry had a better plan to deal with this after 30 years of preparing.
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Mon Aug-23-04 02:11 PM
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19. The Kerry Camp is hard Pressed dealing with a very hard core of Pubs who |
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will stop at NOTHING to WIN....ay any cost. Kerry will over come in the end.. People are not THAT stupid
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:21 PM
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8. I think DOLE should apologize to Kerry for smearing him... |
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...why should Kerry apologize for telling the TRUTH?
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Mon Aug-23-04 02:12 PM
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20. The Pubs want to throw the pressure on Kerry. That is their motive...to |
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:31 PM
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9. A lot of people are now asking some very serious questions about |
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Bob Dole's supposed war injuries. Were Dole's injuries self-inflicted? Questions need to be answered.
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:34 PM
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11. Dole's a limp dick, but |
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any info on his war injuries, no matter how he got them, doesn't serve anyone. He's retired.
His stupidity and lies will be forgotten in a week.
Cyn:)
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Mon Aug-23-04 04:23 PM
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best not to go there. Chimp is the one whose "war" record needs to be exposed.
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:36 PM
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12. Gman---thinking exact thoughts |
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Maybe there should be an investigation into all the political traffic Bob got from being a so-called "hero". Prove it, Bob. That's the game you slime are playing now..so prove it. How do we know your hand isn't like that because you fell out of jeep, dead drunk and ran over your own hand? How do we know you weren't just a fumble fingered uncoordianted dope who inflicted the wounds on yourself (as Ann the Man talks about Max). When you take there side on this, Dole, you not only shit on all men who served, but it puts your "so-called" (prove it Bob) heroism on the line, too.
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Mon Aug-23-04 02:14 PM
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21. Not sure of his history re injury....whatever it is thats him and it |
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doesn't make him any better than Kerry.
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Mon Aug-23-04 01:34 PM
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10. Kerry's apology to Dole: "Sorry 'bout yer jagoff arm." |
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Mon Aug-23-04 02:16 PM
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Mon Aug-23-04 02:16 PM
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23. People like O'Neill are mad at Kerry because they believe |
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that, had we stayed in Vietnam - had we invested more money, more troops, et cetera ad infinitum - we would have won the war.
What's that line in the movie Patton? "Americans love a winner, and will not tolerate a loser"? The SmearVet crowd is convinced that Vietnam was "winnable," and blame Kerry in particular for helping to end the war without a victory.
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Mon Aug-23-04 02:34 PM
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26. I know isn't it amazing that Kerry personally stopped the war in Vietnam? |
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He's one amazing guy. If it wasn't for him, the war would have been won. Also, there would have been NO backlash against any Vets.
Kerry is practically a GOD. Who knew?
One thing I learned watching some swift smear guy for five minutes on Fox last night, is they make it all PERSONAL. I me myself committed no atrocities so hey it didn't happen!!! and Kerry is making me look like a monster becausing he's well practically accusing ME.
If they didn't see it, it didn't happen. Of course, what they saw didn't happen either. It's bitter men that make every word and anything ever done about Vietnam personal to them.
OF course, saying someone didn't bleed when you fucking don't know that is about the rudest tackiest thing I've heard in some time.
FU Bob Dole.
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Mon Aug-23-04 05:34 PM
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35. Beer, Wine, and Fine Caviar, Tony Roma Ribs Too boot. |
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Mon Aug-23-04 02:20 PM
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25. Gee, Bob, you spent how many years in the Senate with John |
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why are you asking for him to apologize now?
Mean-spirited Honorless Shill.
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Mon Aug-23-04 07:09 PM
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43. That Dole has revealed himself to be...very high lever to boot. |
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Mon Aug-23-04 03:05 PM
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27. Dole injured himSELF, and admits it! |
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from JMM's TPM blog:
''In a 1988 campaign-trail autobiography, here's how Dole described the incident that earned him his first Purple Heart: "As we approached the enemy, there was a brief exchange of gunfire. I took a grenade in hand, pulled the pin, and tossed it in the direction of the farmhouse. It wasn't a very good pitch (remember, I was used to catching passes, not throwing them). In the darkness, the grenade must have struck a tree and bounced off. It exploded nearby, sending a sliver of metal into my leg--the sort of injury the Army patched up with Mercurochrome and a Purple Heart.'"
didn't any of you see this yesterday?
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Mon Aug-23-04 05:37 PM
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36. OMG, Thank you for sharing this, 5 Stars to you too Man, |
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Mon Aug-23-04 03:09 PM
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28. Why does Bob Dole hate America and its Vets? |
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someone should ask him...
Whatta prick.
RL
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Mon Aug-23-04 05:39 PM
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37. Very very very good, 3 Star Level |
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Mon Aug-23-04 03:26 PM
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29. Pathetic, bitter middle-aged men - almost all officers. . . |
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maybe about 1-2 enlisted men among the "Not-So-Swifties"
:evilgrin:
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Mon Aug-23-04 05:40 PM
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38. They giving "Officer Rank" a very Bad Nane, 3 Stars |
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Mon Aug-23-04 03:35 PM
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30. From my recent conversations with a couple Vietnam vets |
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Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 03:38 PM by brentspeak
One told me that he barely was aware of Kerry's Senate speech, let alone Kerry's role in the anti-war movement; the other said he just didn't care one way or another. And for the most part, Kerry's comments about atrocities or anything else about Vietnam are largely a complete non-issue to most Vietnam vets. (Actually, I'm getting the feeling that most Vietnam vets pretty much are sick and tired of hearing about the war, but that's another story altogether).
So when you hear John O'Neill doing his drama queen act on TV about Kerry's "treason", just know that he is mainly just speaking for himself and a few others.
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Mon Aug-23-04 06:04 PM
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39. Heartless Bastards, they know they are Using the Distortiom Card |
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Apparently they don't care of ther Vets that do care..."Just shut up already" "Why you wanna bring up old SHIT for? This stuff BOTHERS ME!!!!!" "What the FUCK Dole wanna bring up ole shit?" He is re OPENINH OLD WOUNDS...That fuck HEAD! He HAS TO KNOW..."
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Mon Aug-23-04 03:39 PM
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31. I want an apology from the Republicans |
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Mon Aug-23-04 07:05 PM
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40. Yes, it still hurts too many of our Vets and Families. |
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Mon Aug-23-04 04:25 PM
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33. Maybe if W appologizes for going AWOL first |
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I can't believe Dole would put politics before a fellow Vet and US Senator.
What a bitter old man.
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Mon Aug-23-04 07:07 PM
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41. UnControlled Bitterness of a high LEVEL? |
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Yup......sure does look like it
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Mon Aug-23-04 04:46 PM
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34. He should apologise for his own self-inflicted wounds |
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And all the faking he's been doing for half a century. And if he's even a little miffed at the suggestion, he might want to consider what he's doing to other veterans. Swiftboat Veterans for BushSHOVE IT! - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - Hero Kerry AWOL Bushhttp://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13
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42. How little they concern themselves with fellow Vets who are still |
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