What Andrea Mitchell said tonight.

[madaboutharry]

On Hardball this evening Andrea Mitchell said that McCain has deep and real contempt for Obama. That he talks about him in a condescending and contemptuous manner. She seemed shocked by it.

I think she has come to the conclusion in her own mind that McCain is a vile person. Something got to her after she got back from Europe. She has crossed over to another place and really seems to have had some kind of an epiphany. I remember listening to Arianna Huffington talk about what happened to her after standing around listening to republicans talk privately at one too many cocktail parties. Andrea Mitchell has this same tone in her voice now, she even looks different this week. I think she heard things and has been privy to things from the McCain campaign that she can not morally reconcile in her own mind.

[cbc5g]

1. The Rovian people are horrible scum ...any rational person has to come to that conclusion

[KittyWampus]

17. A lot in politics and manipulating public opinion has nothing to do with rationality

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

2. I think it rankled Andrea to no end

that McCain stood up and lied through his teeth about something she had personal knowledge of - the aborted visit to wounded soldiers in Germany. She was there and understood exactly what the truth was. She couldn't fail to acknowledge that Grampy was pulling the whole attack out of his ass.

She also kind of shuddered when discussing the "Obama is the antichrist" web ad.

[GoesTo11]

22. McCain tried made fools out of the press with the soldier visit

And again with the dollar ad / race card brouhaha.

Well, Andrea might be saying "Fool me once, shame on me. Won't get fooled again."

By the way, this could be a good meme to go straight at his real strength.

MCCAIN IS MAKING FOOLS OUT OF THE PRESS

That's the one thing (other than $ from the media corps.) that would make these big egos change their tune.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

26. Bingo!

The favorability of his press coverage is going to decline as he tries to embarrass more of the press. No Repuke can resist the siren call of beating up the media, and the media may be less forgiving than in the past. You don't fuck over the people who brought you to the dance without consequences.

[hisownpetard]

38. Yes, I think that was a turning point for her. She was there, she knew beyond a doubt what

the truth of the matter was - and she couldn't tolerate the McCain camp's lies.

Good for her. Better late than never.

[EV_Ares]

3. Thanks for that insight as I have been wondering what is going on with her because

she is not herself in her reporting and on the not visiting the troops in Germany I could tell she was or rather felt really strong that it was nothing but a lie what they were saying about Barack.

I didn't watch Hardball tonight because it is starting to get me ticked off on a lot of the reporting so will let you guys keep me up on what is happening on the tube shows as I am sick of the Scar boroughs, Gregorys, Buchanan's and what they are putting out.

I think you might be on to something here because she is singing a different tune right now anyway.

[CatWoman]

4. he reminds me of Lieberman when he ran against LaMont.

real hatred there -- Lieberman was always on the attack.

Always.

[eShirl]

5. that's how all the republicans have been talking about all the democrats for years now

why is she so surprised? you'd have to be braindead not to notice

[Cha]

6. "Andrea Mitchell Nails it..*gulp*"

kpete (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-01-08 07:06 PM
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Andrea Mitchell Nails it..*gulp*

"Andrea Mitchell Nails it..*gulp*"
by Dreggas
Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:59:21 PM PDT

sorry that was me throwing up in my mouth just a little that I said that but it's the truth. I was watching hardball and trying not to destroy my nice LCD tv when to my surprise Andrea Mitchell called McCain out for the condescending, disrespectful disdain in how he talks about Obama.

Further she pointed out that this has been going on for some time, including McCain saying he would go with Obama to Iraq to "educate" him. She also predicted that this would continue and that this was similar to how George the elder treated Bill Clinton during the 92 campaign. Methinks that the media is losing its man-crush, or at least some of it, with regard to McCain.

Sorry this is short and I will try to find the video later. However I thought this was pretty important that someone finally called a duck a duck and saw McCain as being disrespectful etc. That will hurt McCain big time.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/1/175440/2015/...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3717321

[Kahuna]

32. David Gregory surprised me last night too. Even HE seemed to be

a little queasy with McCain's obvious lies and dirt.

[rusty quoin]

7. She did do a great job at telling the truth this week, but what happens next week?

[ErinBerin84]

8. watching the duo of Ron Brownstein and Andrea Mitchell

talk about how dirty the McCain campaign is was very striking..

[dbonds]

9. She also spent a week with Obama on his trip.

Maybe she saw the real real deal and was impressed. Now she see's McLame lying and she knows what is true and right.

[babylonsister]

14. That's what I think, too. nt

[WinkyDink]

37. All well and good. BUT clearly she knew for 8 years the Bush/Cheney lies.

[me b zola]

39. At the beginning of the trip she was tough on Obama

She was pissed that the only media coverage in Iraq was through the military, and she whined quite a bit about that. So her turn around now is striking, because I can almost taste the bile as it rises in her throat now when she speaks about McCain.

I think that the flat out lies and dirty tricks that were coordinated between the McCain camp and the Pentagon left more than a bad taste in her mouth. Maybe she was able to see close up and personal the obstacles that Obama has to maneuver around just to be where he is now.

I also believe that it is for these reasons that Obama has handled this tough week the way that he has. The media is turning strongly against McCain and has seen for themselves the cards stacked against Obama. That this is an up-stream swim for Obama all the way--and just how amazing he is in dealing with it all.

[mwb970]

10. No decent person could tolerate the filthy mccain campaign.

I've never seen anything like it. Incredibly, the Little Jerk is beginning to seem even worse than bush! I never would have thought they could find anyone worse than the rotten, lying crook currently staining our White House. My God. How low can they go? mccain is disgusting.

[Hamlette]

11. my theory on what happened to Andrea

1. It wasn't just that she knew he was lying about visiting the troops in Germany, McCain was calling the press tools, as if they were being used by Obama. Mitchell had been on early in the visit PISSED because Obama DID NOT let the press in with him when he visited the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then, to be told by McCain, that Obama was using the press AND wounded troops was a step too far.

2. Paul O'Neill joined Obama (sort of). Maybe it was only for the economic summit but you don't do that if you don't support the guy. Remember Paul was disgusted by the ideology in the Bush admin, he trashed Cheney in his book. Paul is best friends (or at least good friends) with Alan. So Alan and Paul talk and think Obama could be the best one for the economy. And Alan and Andrea talk and say Obama might not be so bad. McCain is treating the economy just like Bush did and we know how far that got us.

[Catshrink]

12. Thanks for your insight.

You might have nailed it.

:hi:

[elleng]

19. Great to hear about O'Neill!

and surprised that alan's seemed so off base! So mebbe O'Neill's got to Andrea! That would be great; he's a fine fellow, imo.

[creeksneakers2]

27. Very good theory

McCain and the right wing did spend the better part of two weeks slamming the press for an alleged Obama bias. The press was actually in the tank for McCain. It should have bugged them to be falsely accused.

McCain's talking point about unfair media coverage was even repeated by the media itself. They went so far to promote McCain's lies that they were willing to falsely accuse themselves to go along.

A backlash would make sense.

In NBC's case, I suspect its parent company, General Electric, pressures the network to side with McCain. General Electric is in the business of building and supplying nuclear plants as well as making the nuclear fuel itself. McCain promises he'll build 45 new nuclear plants at a cost of $5 billion to $8 billion each. Obama doesn't promise any at all. McCain's plan would make GE the next Halliburton. On top of that, GE sells jet engines to the military. They are likely to sell far more under McCain than Obama.

I read the NBC blog, First Read, and find there that their correspondents have a very different take on what's going on than what is shown on NBC Nightly News. Is it possible the network news apparatus finally had enough and rebelled against the parent company? The last few nights, especially the last two, NBC's coverage went from devoted adherence to McCain's talking points to highly critical reports, even condemnation. This comes after the media collectively declared that this election would be a "referendum on Obama," meaning they planned not to scrutinize McCain at all.

[grantcart]

33. For people not following your very intelligent reply Andrea Mitchell is married to

Alan Greenspan.

I think she was also very pissed that the anchors got the interviews and reporters like her did not.

Also people like Greenspan have heard the many stories from Republican Senators how McCain can lose his temper and not Presidential timber.

[Cosmocat]

36. Let me advance another theory ...

IMO, the right wing increasingly started to throw Greenspan under the bus for our economic problems ... Fact is, he carried Bush' water by lowing interest rates as low as he did, and keeping them down ... Had he not done that, things would be A LOT worse right now ...

His thanks - he is becoming a scapegoat ...

Much like Scott McClelland and others who were active in proping this crew up, once they get away from it and the dust starts to settle, resentment starts to set in ...

IMO, IF Andrea Mitchell is moving away from being a right wing lapdog, it is because she resents the way they are treating her husband, after he was a good soldier for them ...

[Muttocracy]

13. she was great - as was the other guy whose name I forget - esp. when she used the word "contempt" nt

[Hamlette]

15. thanks for the heads up, I wasn't going to watch, it was very good

both of them said McCain is showing his outright contempt for Obama.

If you don't think that has racial overtones, You're more willing to give McCain the benefit of the doubt than I am.

(My Senator, Bob Bennett (R Utah), despises McCain with a passion. I'm sure he won't say it publicly but my husband works with Bennett and Bennett has told him how much he hates McCain. This was long before the election so it wasn't like Bennett was supporting Romeny at that point, although I'd guess he did vote Mitt in the primary here.

How the hell is he going to get anything out of Congress if he's president and ALL the senators hate him?)

[TankLV]

23. I have no doubt that mcINSANE is a hateful BIGOT. NONE AT ALL...

One only needs to look at his record...

He was one of the most busy and vocal critics of the MLK holiday slime opposition...

We only get a glimpse of what the REAL nature of this VILE creature is...

[Hamlette]

29. The Moses ad sure looks like a poke at the "uppity" black man to me

its the most racist shit I've seen in a long time. "We'll go after him because he does NOT KNOW HIS PLACE. He thinks he's better (as good as?) than we are. How dare he." It's not at all subtle.

[Swede]

16. Andrea took the red pill.

Now she'll find out how deep the rabbit hole goes.

[valerief]

18. AM is PlayDoh. She has no opinion of her own. nt

[goclark]

20. I won't count her as sane until

after the election.

These ambitious people can be easily swayed.

You would think that Andrea had enough power and money to stay home and enjoy the money from her old man but she too wants power --- no problem there.

My problem is when they sell their souls to the devil.

Please Andrea, stay honest, please.

[Kahuna]

34. Right.. You never know at what point she will have her kool aid fix. nt

[dmr]

21. I noticed she started to report like a real journalist during the primaries

I noticed this then because Mitchell's past reporting history has been on a very right-ward slant, BUT during the primaries her reporting and analysis tended to be fair. During the primaries, on air, MSNBC took on a happy-go-lucky atmosphere with many of their personalities on air together. I thought that perhaps there was an Olbermann influence of looking at the GOP for what they are - Party, Power and Money of smear and fear first, and America second.

I can't see how how people could not be affected by what Olbermann reports nightly. He doesn't make the GOP-shit up. Couple that with witnessing history in the making (Obama+Europe), I can see how someone could have an epiphany.

[uponit7771]

24. Yeap, I see this too....it's like the bulb finally went off in her head and she sounds hurt to...

...a certain extent

[Hoof Hearted]

25. I don't want my reporters to have "epiphanies" I want them to THINK and report the facts.

JUST the facts.

Epiphanies are worthless, as they are forever subject to the next "epiphany."

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

28. Love your user name

as a fellow KO fan!

[AllentownJake]

30. I think it was 2 things

1) She knew the truth about the Lanstuhl nonsense because she was there
2) She didn't like being called in the tank with Obama like all the other broadcasters by the McCain camp and knew she's actually been harder on him and was pissed McCain was attacking his "base".

[Kahuna]

31. Mitchell does seem to be mourning the McTroll she THOUGHT she knew..

:applause:

On edit: I agree with your analysis about her post-Europe epiphany.

[grantcart]

35. "Bad Andrea" got tired and took a nap and "Good Andrea" got to come out an play for a while