Only 12 days left for 527's to be on air.

[59millionmorons]

They end 60 days before the election.

[xray s]

1. is the ban just on broadcast media?

what about billboards, books, newspaper ads, etc?

[DaveinMD]

4. after the 60 day period

the battle goes to direct mail. Lots of money to be spent there.

[annabanana]

2. This is part of the new law?

Does this mean that all ads after that date have to be hard $?

[59millionmorons]

3. It means

I believe it means only the campaigns can air ads.

[hughee99]

5. The purpose of CFR was to

get the money out of politics... correct? Does anyone feel like this succeeded even a little? I don't. So while they didn't manage to take the money (and therefore the potential for corruption out) they did manage to remove the best way for an individual or group to get out its message before an election (TV). Does anyone else's ass hurt, cause' we all got screwed.

[Democat]

6. Are you sure? I thought MoveOn was about to launch a new ad campaign?

Which of MoveOn's organizations will be launched the ad campaign? I know they have a Pac, a 527, and, I think, a 501?

[elfin]

7. Can the DNC still do ads??

Should I give $ to MoveOn or DNC?

[DaveinMD]

8. the DNC

will still do ads. 12 days is a long time for MOVE ON. And tv isn't the only mechanism to communicate with voters. Direct Mail is just as effective, even moreso because it can be targeted better.

[Junkdrawer]

9. Well, the Swifties are planning their "most lethal" ad for October...

http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4539

Oh wait. That's right. THEIR ads are played by the media for FREE.

Silly Me.

[oasis]

10. It's time for some heavy duty AWOL ads featuring a Vietnam ducking flyboy.

[madfloridian]

11. Well, MoveOn planning 12 weeks of ads. See this link.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=35059

[Democat]

12. MoveOn has an ad coming out with Rebecca Romijn?

Can't wait for that one!

[Bandit]

13. Only if the mention a candidate

Anybody can talk about an issue all they wish right to the very second we vote.

[Democat]

14. Hard to bash Kerry when you can't mention his name

But will the right wing crooks find a loophole?

[LTR]

15. Are web-based ads affected?

Stupid question, I guess.

[Eric J in MN]

16. Give to MoveOn PAC. PACs aren't affected by the 60 days

rule.

http://www.moveonpac.org/

[flpoljunkie]

17. 527's defined by Center for Responsive Politics.

http://www.opensecrets.org/527s/types.asp

527 Group – A tax-exempt group organized under section 527 of the Internal Revenue Code to raise money for political activities including voter mobilization efforts, issue advocacy and the like. Currently, the FEC only requires a 527 group to file regular disclosure reports if it is a political party or political action committee (PAC) that engages in either activities expressly advocating the election or defeat of a federal candidate, or in electioneering communications. Otherwise, it must file either with the government of the state in which it is located or the Internal Revenue Service. Many 527s run by special interest groups raise unlimited "soft money," which they use for voter mobilization and certain types of issue advocacy, but not for efforts that expressly advocate the election or defeat of a federal candidate or amount to electioneering communications.

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I think these groups can use hard money--limited to individual $5,000 contributions to PACS like Moveonpac.org--for running ads inside the 60 day window. Soft money may not be used for these ads.

[Democat]

18. So the ads will not stop, the money will just be filtered?

Instead of Bob Perry giving $500,000 to the Swift Vets, he can just give 500 people $1000 each to give to the group in their own name?

That sounds like it's not really going to make any difference.

The Republicans are crooks, they will always break the laws and ignore the rules. Our side will be the ones trying to play nice, watch.

[flpoljunkie]

19. Your suggestion would be difficult, even for Bob Perry.

These 527 groups are not the problem; it is the lies they spread, left largely unrefuted by the feckless media.