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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:29 PM Original message |
Does anyone really think that Obama lost 9 points in 6 days like Gallup showed? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. Statistics are easy to manipulate. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. What does Intrade show? |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. And the state by state polls are very encouraging. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. A NC poll has Obama statistically tied. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. There's a positive, though modest, trend in NC. |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #20 |
46. We are planing to take the day off... |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. EXCELLENT! |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Thanks since we work odd hours it is hard for us to attend Rallies.. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Well hello from California |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I was out there last month to visit my kids... |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Castro Valley is close to me and I lived in the Oakland Hills for a year long ago. |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. not to mention being near my grandbabies... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. The most reliable indicator because there's money riding on it :P |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. No, it's crap. nt. |
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yellowdogintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. not just no but HELL NO nt |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. No. I think there may have been some tightening, but not that much. |
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madaboutharry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. I don't either. |
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Blondiegrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. I was reading the responses to the article posted at CNN. The article |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
7. The MSM is all over it saying Obama is starting to lose it..LOL |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I guess Paris, Brittney and Charleton have more pull. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. He can't close the deal....OMG! |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. MSM? What about the loud chicken littles of DU? |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
8. What about the 15 point drop with Newsweek poll? |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
12. In a word - nope! |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
13. The news has been all over McCain's attack ads. Obama hasn't hit back. I'm not shocked. |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
14. No, Gallup is owned by the corporations and they want a close race |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
15. Like McCain and his Corp. Media , the Pollsters are in on it as well. |
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RazBerryBeret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
16. I seriously think the polls are shit .... |
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DemocracyInaction (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. Maybe |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. And the highest in 4 years. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
18. No, he was never up by 9 |
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Phoonzang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
21. Possibly ... |
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NatBurner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
23. they're pumping up the "likely voter" meme this week |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
24. More like the spread was always 5-6 and the +/- 4 MOE makes a 9 point swing meaningless |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. not meaningless |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
42. or partially meaningless and partially real |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
27. Yes, because I think the bump he received after his trip was temporary. |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
29. Well, let's see .... should I believe the M$M polls or my own eyes? |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Which do you think is more likely to be a random sample of voters? |
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Heather MC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
31. THEY ARE LYING!!! |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
32. are you seeking honest answers or affirmation? |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. good question |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
33. M$M is owned by the repugs so they'll give you their news... |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
34. Sure. Why not? |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
35. The media controls everything in politics. They will decide what the "polls say" and |
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Clear Blue Sky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
36. The media want a horse race. The polls are for them to generate news. |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
37. Nope. One more thing.. |
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tedoll78 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
38. Wouldn't be surprised. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
39. No, they're absurd. No one who has an opinion is changing it. |
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RedShoes (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
40. Nope. I think Gallup skewed their poll pool to suggest it for news ratings. nt |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
41. He lost five points, and McLame gained four. |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
45. Me neither. |
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sourmilk (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
47. I can believe it. Polls are pretty volatile this time of year. |
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dragonball2008 (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
52. no |
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